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I think an adult server might bring back some of the original members such as myself, who would like to be among ages over 21. It would also segratate the kids from the adults and would prevent problems.

There are adult virtual programs out there, by the way. Moove online,and a new rpg which is in beta now, sociolotron comes to mind. The internet is not only populated by kids. I think there is a need out there for adults to have a place as well.

“I have seen kids bios that read a heck of a lot worse then any adult bio, BDSMer bio, etc. I have also heard more foul language from the teens in game then from the adults.”

It is interesting to me that Every time people Discuss the subject of Protecting the Little Darlings from all the Evil adults out there, they Inevitably end up sighting Instances and Incidents where an Uncouth or Sexually Agressive Teen has Accosted Adults.
It has been my greater experience in three or more cities that the whole purpose of establishing 18+ lots has not so much been to allow us Liscence for explicite behaviour so much as it has been to allow us a little peace from the Relentless advances of the younger people. On any given evening, in one of our “Sick and twisted” BD/SM lots you will see such shocking things as People playing chess or pool. Your ears will be accosted with Obcenities like Frank Discussions of Poetry, or Classic Movies. What Amazes people is, when they land on our lots, there is NOT a continuous Orgy in progress, and their Friendly greetings of “Hey, Anyone want to F**k?” almost always results in their being summerily booted, banned and ignored.
We share common interests, but Crudity is not tolerated. People are often cautioned about using Foul Language (A Trait i find particularly unladylike, and disapprove of thoroughly.).
Cocoanut came to My Lady Julianna’s home, she and i spoke at length. If you don’t wish to take my word, Ask her. How many lewd propositions did she receive? What were the topics of the various conversations going on? What was the most Outrageous thing she witnessed? The answers will surprise you. Yes,, we Do have more,,,Stimulating entertainments as well. These are done on closed lots and are by invitation only.
You see, Even among the “Most Extreme” examples of Adult lots, the aim is the same, That we NOT be subjected to the Adolescent Wheedling of Those young people who substitute Hormones for grey matter.
So now,, DO we establish an Adults only server? On the surface, it sounds good. but Some people want to Immediatly take it upon themselves to decide just what adult behaviour takes place there. My Comments quoted above. were in response to a namless indevidual of rather extreme views who, upon realizing that an adult lot would, By Default, Automaticly include BD/SM lots responded with the Acronym “OMDB” which i beleive i correctly translate as “Over My Dead Body”. So,, Now we in his view have a server for children, AND a server for Adults where they can only do G-rated activities? More or less defeats the whole reasonong for having an adult server. So,, we get an adult server where PG, or R-rated activities are allowed, Persons like the indevidual who quoted me get up in arms,, then what? We won’t leave the game, and we certainly don’t feel comfortable saying he should. So, what is the answer? Another server? and another? and another? Each one filtering out Material that one or more groups finds objectionable based on Personal Prejudice?
Face it, It will Never happen. Maxis will just dump the whole thing before it gets to that.
The game rating specifies that anyone over the age of 13 may play as long as they do not violate TOS. Is TOS perfect, That depends on where you look at it from. The Racist wouldn’t think so because he keeps getting suspended for voicing his views aloud where ever he goes. The Right winger wouldn’t think so because Gays and other “Deviant behaviour” isn’t barred Immediatly just for the crime of existing. The Griefer wouldn’t think so because his “Harmless fun” isn’t tolerated. I might not think so because people can wage a systematic campaign of Lies that Skirts, but never crosses the line of Harassment that TOS has set out.

So now,, we are left in a world where there are teens and adults, as well as various views on what “Adult” Means and NO way to force the rest of the sim community to play by OUR rules. All i can say is, Wonderful, it leaves us with the only option possible.
LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE.
If you have to be a little more careful not to offend others,, Fine,, do it. If something on another lot offends you, Fine, Use your constitutuionally Guarenteed freedom to just walk away.
But for Heavans sake Stop all this Nonsense about segragation, and “Who’s game world is it anyway?”
We ALL created it, We ALL have a stake in it. and as long as we play by the rules and pay our subscription, we ALL have a right to be there.

Thank you for tolerating my Rant. Lol.

Maria.

The argument that you stay on your lot is meaningless because hundreds of your fellow BDSMers roam around the game, skilling, making money, and going to contests, all with their big BDSM recruitment ads hanging out on their profiles, calling for people to come into their lifestyle, hitting on them, propositioning them, bringing them around, knowingly and not, and all in the presence of teenagers and kids.

Yesterday I heard a story of someone on a vanilla romance lot being picked up by a BDSMer who wasn’t so blatantly BDSM in his profile to immediately attract attention. The lot owner, however, noticed the old rose-and-thorns thing and IM’d the visitor that she was about to go off with someone in “the lifestyle” — something about which this player knew nothing before being picked up. She went off happily, and later IM’d the lot owner that she thought it was “cute” the way the subs were calling her “sister” and curtsying and calling each other “Ma’am” and “Sir”. Let’s see if it stays this cute for her. Maybe she will find happiness; maybe she will run screaming in two weeks. But the fact remains: she was not into it, and she was recruited, and not recruited on a BDSM lot, but a vanilla lot, and not recruited knowingly.

One of the things I find humorous about this debate is the frequently with which the dommes and subs “dismiss you” or tell you “they aren’t going to post anymore.” What are you afraid of?

And his argument that “everyone is doing it” is the oldest in the book. It reminds me of a kid whining to his mother and saying, “But, ma, everybody’s doing it,” and being told, “But if everybody jumps off a bridge, will you jump too? Supposedly there are all these teens cybering, and by contrast, they make Rose and Petal look like an old ladies’ quilting bee. Get off it!

I have been in the game for a year, on a lot of lots. I have never actually seen a teen propsition an adult. I have seen adults proposition teens, and older teens proposition younger teens, knowingly, or unknowingly. But I actually haven’t seen it go on as much as Mikal seems to think it does, but that may be because he lives in a haze of sex in the game and that is not what I come to this game for.

The game creates an unequal climate. It is a masqued ball. It would be better if adults used more self-restraint. The caveat that only over 21 or over 18 can come on a lot is not sufficient. And one wonders, in a teen-rated game, why it is OK to create over-18 lots anyway, that ought to be on a separate server.

The idea that tolerance is supposed to extend to the very elimination of tolerance itself is straight from hell. And that is what we have here — a way of life that seeks to dominate, constrain, subject, etc.

I think lphntschld is right on the money saying that BDSM is exactly that lewdness to which children should not be exposed.