Comments on: Interview with Nyk: Legendary Mazebot Programmer http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Scrambled1 http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53053 Scrambled1 Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:49:57 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53053 ::claps:: ::claps::

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]]> By: Docosa http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53051 Docosa Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:59:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53051 Truthfully, I really like some of the points Coco has made. Fair play is a lost concept to most people playing online games these days. While both the simolean sellers and bot programmers are generally a group of good individuals, that doesn't make us innocent (oops, did I say us?). Just because a relatively decent person exploits a system doesn't mean they have the right too. Whether the reason is to make simoleans easier than the treadmill put in place by the game, or to turn a real profit, both are as much an exploit as the other. And even if someone can't see how it effects others, doesn't make it any better if they are still exploiting the system unfairly in terms of how it was conceptually designed. However, is it really so bad to have a bunch of people who -think- they aren't ruining the game, as so obviously stated in their posts. Would you rather have a majority of people around who realize what's happening but don't care one way or the other? Or even worse, are actually intent on ruining it and admit to it? I've always seen TSO as a social experiment. That's how I've always treated it. To me, exploiters fit into my view and game style. I'm just glad I haven't seen too many truely destructive and deviant individuals. -=Docosa, a day late and a penny short=- Truthfully, I really like some of the points Coco has made. Fair play is a lost concept to most people playing online games these days.

While both the simolean sellers and bot programmers are generally a group of good individuals, that doesn’t make us innocent (oops, did I say us?). Just because a relatively decent person exploits a system doesn’t mean they have the right too. Whether the reason is to make simoleans easier than the treadmill put in place by the game, or to turn a real profit, both are as much an exploit as the other. And even if someone can’t see how it effects others, doesn’t make it any better if they are still exploiting the system unfairly in terms of how it was conceptually designed.

However, is it really so bad to have a bunch of people who -think- they aren’t ruining the game, as so obviously stated in their posts. Would you rather have a majority of people around who realize what’s happening but don’t care one way or the other? Or even worse, are actually intent on ruining it and admit to it?

I’ve always seen TSO as a social experiment. That’s how I’ve always treated it. To me, exploiters fit into my view and game style. I’m just glad I haven’t seen too many truely destructive and deviant individuals.

-=Docosa, a day late and a penny short=-

]]> By: ajdown@jp http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53050 ajdown@jp Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:45:14 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53050 I don't want to start another debate about SARP, but I felt it necessary to just clarify that it is the principle of 'bonus for nothing' payouts that we stand against, regardless of whether the money was legitimately earnt, or illegaly obtained through the use of a third party program. aj SARP Press & Publicity Officer I don’t want to start another debate about SARP, but I felt it necessary to just clarify that it is the principle of ‘bonus for nothing’ payouts that we stand against, regardless of whether the money was legitimately earnt, or illegaly obtained through the use of a third party program.

aj
SARP Press & Publicity Officer

]]> By: RB http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53049 RB Sun, 29 Feb 2004 03:49:38 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53049 Agreed. A Very large share were just everyday simmers i noticed. No special interest groups. - RB " EA are Newbies at TSO =) " Agreed. A Very large share were just everyday simmers i noticed. No special interest groups.

- RB

” EA are Newbies at TSO =) “

]]> By: A Sim http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53048 A Sim Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:50:07 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53048 SARP, Heh cut me a break.. If they are the same sims posting at sttratics then they too have bought these simoleans, not all but several have. There are no grounds for a lawsuit for the use of 3rd party programs.. Also Mafia's are but a very small percentage of buyers for these simoleans.. There are far more regular gamers that are not mafia members who buy simoleans every day.. Mafia's are most likely less then 10% of them.. SARP, Heh cut me a break.. If they are the same sims posting at sttratics then they too have bought these simoleans, not all but several have.

There are no grounds for a lawsuit for the use of 3rd party programs..

Also Mafia’s are but a very small percentage of buyers for these simoleans.. There are far more regular gamers that are not mafia members who buy simoleans every day.. Mafia’s are most likely less then 10% of them..

]]> By: scrambled1 http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53047 scrambled1 Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:33:41 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53047 jeeze... there have been no boundries broken that could result in a lawsuit... now if they programmer has hacked into a server then that is grounds for lawsuits.. but building a program to do something that a human would do just even faster is no way near a lawsuit.. if that was the case... there would be many games that would have barley any players About 1/3 of TSO's players/account subscribers are TSO Sellers that buy more accounts to run these bot/programs if it wasnt for them playing then there would be no sellers... that would make no "mafias" since they are practically the main buyers of simolean sellers... and then there would be less of the "average day player" since they dont want to spend all day at a chalkboard.. they want to play with their friends... its a domino effect... jeeze… there have been no boundries broken that could result in a lawsuit… now if they programmer has hacked into a server then that is grounds for lawsuits.. but building a program to do something that a human would do just even faster is no way near a lawsuit.. if that was the case… there would be many games that would have barley any players

About 1/3 of TSO’s players/account subscribers are TSO Sellers that buy more accounts to run these bot/programs if it wasnt for them playing then there would be no sellers… that would make no “mafias” since they are practically the main buyers of simolean sellers… and then there would be less of the “average day player” since they dont want to spend all day at a chalkboard.. they want to play with their friends… its a domino effect…

]]> By: RB http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53046 RB Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:10:15 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53046 There are no grounds for a lawsuit. EA aren't that smart either. they barley run TSO right, how would they do a lawsuit? lol. - RB There are no grounds for a lawsuit.

EA aren’t that smart either. they barley run TSO right, how would they do a lawsuit? lol.

- RB

]]> By: ajdown@jp http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53045 ajdown@jp Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:31:09 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53045 Nobody can deny that the game has been screwed up by all these bots - if it wasn't for these cheaters - and yes it IS cheating - then SARP wouldn't need to exist, and so many people wouldn't be able to do payouts to bribe people to artificially boost their position in the top 100 list instead of actually putting effort into it. The only good that comes out of bots is that a few people make a lot of money - at the expense of every other player. I so wish EA would bring a lawsuit against one of these bot makers for all they do, maybe that would make them think twice. aj Nobody can deny that the game has been screwed up by all these bots – if it wasn’t for these cheaters – and yes it IS cheating – then SARP wouldn’t need to exist, and so many people wouldn’t be able to do payouts to bribe people to artificially boost their position in the top 100 list instead of actually putting effort into it.

The only good that comes out of bots is that a few people make a lot of money – at the expense of every other player.

I so wish EA would bring a lawsuit against one of these bot makers for all they do, maybe that would make them think twice.

aj

]]> By: Michelle http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/interview_with__2-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-53044 Michelle Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:38:46 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2966#comment-53044 Coco, Get a life. I resent all of your comments against Nyk. Nyk is the only TRUE person on TSO that I have met. I started playing in September 03. Nyk was kind enough to explain how the game works, would always come around to help me skill at my store and give social interactions such as Hi 5's & Handshakes. Nyk was always there when I had problems too ie; how to ignore disgusting IM's from Girls and Guys. Without knowledge of ignore and banning these cyber & scamming ppl from my property I would have quit TSO altogether. To me, Nyk is my best friend on TSO and RL. He has been there for me through all my ups and downs without judgement. Nyk is a kind, caring person with an extremely intelligent mind. I doubt I can say the same for you Coco. Maybe you can use your energy to help charity organisations instead of sending negative energy to the world. It is just a game. Nyk created programs for further enjoyment of the game for people who desired to share his creative mind. Nobody shoved it in your face and said buy it, so how does it hurt you? The comments you posted on 26th are downright slander. You obviously think you are above everybody else. Maybe you spend too much time on your pc hiding from RL coz nobody can stand your arrogance. You don't have a life so you look down on peoples achievements to feel better about yourself? Well, take a good hard look at yourself. Perhaps, maybe you're just hard up. So, go toss yourself and quit your whining. Coco,
Get a life. I resent all of your comments against Nyk. Nyk is the only TRUE person on TSO that I have met. I started playing in September 03. Nyk was kind enough to explain how the game works, would always come around to help me skill at my store and give social interactions such as Hi 5′s & Handshakes.
Nyk was always there when I had problems too ie; how to ignore disgusting IM’s from Girls and Guys. Without knowledge of ignore and banning these cyber & scamming ppl from my property I would have quit TSO altogether. To me, Nyk is my best friend on TSO and RL. He has been there for me through all my ups and downs without judgement. Nyk is a kind, caring person with an extremely intelligent mind. I doubt I can say the same for you Coco. Maybe you can use your energy to help charity organisations instead of sending negative energy to the world. It is just a game. Nyk created programs for further enjoyment of the game for people who desired to share his creative mind. Nobody shoved it in your face and said buy it, so how does it hurt you? The comments you posted on 26th are downright slander. You obviously think you are above everybody else. Maybe you spend too much time on your pc hiding from RL coz nobody can stand your arrogance. You don’t have a life so you look down on peoples achievements to feel better about yourself? Well, take a good hard look at yourself. Perhaps, maybe you’re just hard up. So, go toss yourself and quit your whining.

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