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		<title>By: Mikal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps not enough affection shown as an infant/child, Ageyv?  or...perhaps was smothered as an infant/child in love and affection and it just repulses him...hmmm...wonder which it was?

Be well A/all. i know i shall.

Mikal
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps not enough affection shown as an infant/child, Ageyv?  or&#8230;perhaps was smothered as an infant/child in love and affection and it just repulses him&#8230;hmmm&#8230;wonder which it was?</p>
<p>Be well A/all. i know i shall.</p>
<p>Mikal</p>
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		<title>By: Maria LaVeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria LaVeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i said in another thread,, Any display of Affection or intimacy seems repellant to him,,Only Sterile semi detached relationships seem to meet with his approval.
Interesting.

Maria.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i said in another thread,, Any display of Affection or intimacy seems repellant to him,,Only Sterile semi detached relationships seem to meet with his approval.<br />
Interesting.</p>
<p>Maria.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Julianna</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/london_times_es.html/comment-page-1#comment-53210</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Julianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say you do look cute Dyer in your new tinfoil hat.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say you do look cute Dyer in your new tinfoil hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Julianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Julianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another rational, well laid out argument by Dyer. :P
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another rational, well laid out argument by Dyer. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: toy</title>
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		<dc:creator>toy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dyer toy hates to point it out but YOU are Uri&#039;s barf bag :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dyer toy hates to point it out but YOU are Uri&#8217;s barf bag <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dyerbrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dyerbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uri, bring me my barf bag.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri, bring me my barf bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Juloianna</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/02/london_times_es.html/comment-page-1#comment-53206</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Juloianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your thoughts my darling, so beautifully expressed as usual. I am truly blessed by having you in my life my love. You give yourself to me each and every day, a gift beyond value.

What people like Dyer are missing is this simple truth. Some of us are dominant by nature, and some are submissive by nature. We recognize this, celebrate it, and allow ourselves to be fulfilled by it. We do not struggle to be what we are not. We have found our complementary person, our soul mate. We fit together beautifully and in harmony.

I am Dominant. I value and adore the submissive heart. Not just any submissive would do. I searched and Mikal searched, and we have found each other.

We both serve the other. I serve Mikal too, but my service is not as obvious. Mikal cooks for me, cleans for me, caters to my every desire. He loves me. :) I focus on him, pay attention to his mood, help him to find peace and to relax when feeling stressed, and plan for our mutual pleasure together. I direct his activities at times (but not all the time) to benefit him.. such as in the assignments I give him. I encourage him in activities that will be beneficial to him, such as learning his native Cherokee language.

All that some people see are whips, chains and perceived abuses. They do not see the naturalness of one partner being dominant and the other submissive, the formalization of that arrangement, and the increased recognition of the responsibility that goes with it for the dominant. I love my submissive and care for him and yes, I serve him too.

A submissive heart is a beautiful thing... selfless, caring for others first, creative, fun, intelligent, nurturing, gentle... What is not to love? And Dyer, how dare you put toy down! We are protective of our beloved submissives too. Of course we speak out in their defense.

I love you my darling Mikal :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughts my darling, so beautifully expressed as usual. I am truly blessed by having you in my life my love. You give yourself to me each and every day, a gift beyond value.</p>
<p>What people like Dyer are missing is this simple truth. Some of us are dominant by nature, and some are submissive by nature. We recognize this, celebrate it, and allow ourselves to be fulfilled by it. We do not struggle to be what we are not. We have found our complementary person, our soul mate. We fit together beautifully and in harmony.</p>
<p>I am Dominant. I value and adore the submissive heart. Not just any submissive would do. I searched and Mikal searched, and we have found each other.</p>
<p>We both serve the other. I serve Mikal too, but my service is not as obvious. Mikal cooks for me, cleans for me, caters to my every desire. He loves me. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I focus on him, pay attention to his mood, help him to find peace and to relax when feeling stressed, and plan for our mutual pleasure together. I direct his activities at times (but not all the time) to benefit him.. such as in the assignments I give him. I encourage him in activities that will be beneficial to him, such as learning his native Cherokee language.</p>
<p>All that some people see are whips, chains and perceived abuses. They do not see the naturalness of one partner being dominant and the other submissive, the formalization of that arrangement, and the increased recognition of the responsibility that goes with it for the dominant. I love my submissive and care for him and yes, I serve him too.</p>
<p>A submissive heart is a beautiful thing&#8230; selfless, caring for others first, creative, fun, intelligent, nurturing, gentle&#8230; What is not to love? And Dyer, how dare you put toy down! We are protective of our beloved submissives too. Of course we speak out in their defense.</p>
<p>I love you my darling Mikal <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree toy. There is much beauty in the world for those W/who can see it. Here&#039;s a poem i wrote about it.

Painting in the Sky
by Mikal

Walking outside
In the cold, cold air
Seeing the sunset
Lighting up the sky
Just behind some leafless trees.

What a beautiful sight
To behold
Shades of red, blue and gold
Create a painting in the sky.

How blessed i feel
That i can see
What was created
For Y/you and me.

Some of U/us
Accept this vision
Exactly as it is
True beauty.

Some of U/us
Fail to see
The beauty
In this glorious painting.

So i am grateful everyday
That i have been blessed
Blessed with the gift of seeing
The beautiful painting in the sky.

E/everyone needs to stop and look around T/them. As the old saying goes, &quot;stop and smell the roses&quot;. The fragrance only lasts but so long and then it&#039;s gone. The beautiful sunset only lasts for a while. Beauty in life is abundant, yes, but O/one must be open to see it. Look around. See beauty in the eyes of a child who looks at all with wonder, amazement everytime something new and beautiful comes along. W/we adults have much to learn from the child. Make sure that the child is taught love, beauty, understanding of differences, compassion, etc. If the children are taught these things, the world will be a much better place. Just think on these things. :) i know i will make sure that my kids see the beauty in E/everyone, no matter who that person may be, what that person may look like , what that person may have done, etc. In the end, it will be well worth it to have a much better world. :)

Be well A/all.

Mikal
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree toy. There is much beauty in the world for those W/who can see it. Here&#8217;s a poem i wrote about it.</p>
<p>Painting in the Sky<br />
by Mikal</p>
<p>Walking outside<br />
In the cold, cold air<br />
Seeing the sunset<br />
Lighting up the sky<br />
Just behind some leafless trees.</p>
<p>What a beautiful sight<br />
To behold<br />
Shades of red, blue and gold<br />
Create a painting in the sky.</p>
<p>How blessed i feel<br />
That i can see<br />
What was created<br />
For Y/you and me.</p>
<p>Some of U/us<br />
Accept this vision<br />
Exactly as it is<br />
True beauty.</p>
<p>Some of U/us<br />
Fail to see<br />
The beauty<br />
In this glorious painting.</p>
<p>So i am grateful everyday<br />
That i have been blessed<br />
Blessed with the gift of seeing<br />
The beautiful painting in the sky.</p>
<p>E/everyone needs to stop and look around T/them. As the old saying goes, &#8220;stop and smell the roses&#8221;. The fragrance only lasts but so long and then it&#8217;s gone. The beautiful sunset only lasts for a while. Beauty in life is abundant, yes, but O/one must be open to see it. Look around. See beauty in the eyes of a child who looks at all with wonder, amazement everytime something new and beautiful comes along. W/we adults have much to learn from the child. Make sure that the child is taught love, beauty, understanding of differences, compassion, etc. If the children are taught these things, the world will be a much better place. Just think on these things. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  i know i will make sure that my kids see the beauty in E/everyone, no matter who that person may be, what that person may look like , what that person may have done, etc. In the end, it will be well worth it to have a much better world. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Be well A/all.</p>
<p>Mikal</p>
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		<title>By: toy</title>
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		<dc:creator>toy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>toy does not have to clear Mistress Maria&#039;s plates in TSO.... toy does services to her because toy wishes to please Her.....  toy enjoys pleasing Her, toy gets great joy from doing even simple things,  its called love dyer, something that seems to be missing in your life.

you crave acceptance yet cannot achieve it simply because you lecture and never listen to others. Continualy twisting what others say to suit your own narrow conception of what everyone should be, a dyer clone.  We all hhave minds of our own, we make choices daily, some right, some wrong but we accept and learn from poor choices, do you dyer?
the biggest flaw now in your thoughts seem to be that you have placed this girl beneath you, not worthy to speak to, not worthy to listen to. Would you speak to toy if she wasnt a slave? toy doubts this because toy would still be the same person she is now and not a dyer clone. You simply use that concept to not answer this girls past questions, the questions will always remain dyer, they wont disappear simply because you feel your above talking to a slave.
There&#039;s always a beautiful horizon to see dyer but, you continually look at it through binoculars, and that simply narrows you field of view. Drop the binoculars dyer, open your eyes, there&#039;s much beauty in the world you are missing.


falara kajira toy :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>toy does not have to clear Mistress Maria&#8217;s plates in TSO&#8230;. toy does services to her because toy wishes to please Her&#8230;..  toy enjoys pleasing Her, toy gets great joy from doing even simple things,  its called love dyer, something that seems to be missing in your life.</p>
<p>you crave acceptance yet cannot achieve it simply because you lecture and never listen to others. Continualy twisting what others say to suit your own narrow conception of what everyone should be, a dyer clone.  We all hhave minds of our own, we make choices daily, some right, some wrong but we accept and learn from poor choices, do you dyer?<br />
the biggest flaw now in your thoughts seem to be that you have placed this girl beneath you, not worthy to speak to, not worthy to listen to. Would you speak to toy if she wasnt a slave? toy doubts this because toy would still be the same person she is now and not a dyer clone. You simply use that concept to not answer this girls past questions, the questions will always remain dyer, they wont disappear simply because you feel your above talking to a slave.<br />
There&#8217;s always a beautiful horizon to see dyer but, you continually look at it through binoculars, and that simply narrows you field of view. Drop the binoculars dyer, open your eyes, there&#8217;s much beauty in the world you are missing.</p>
<p>falara kajira toy <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maria LaVeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria LaVeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dyer:
&quot;See below under &quot;Interview With Maria&quot;.&quot;

I did. Nothing new as usual, Just the same admissions that you Simply Can not, or Will not understand a relationship that falls outside your preconceived notions.

Dyer:
&quot;I really ought to just create a bot that comes on these boards every day and just repeats the same thing &quot;

Chere,, Re read your own posts,, Many of us thought you already had. Even when faced with Proof that you are wrong, you wait two posts then Repeat the Same Falacious arguements as though they had never been heard before (And Discredited).

Dyer:
&quot;There is another way. You can have a partner who is equal, who knows their own mind, who you respect, as an equal, not a slave. They can live a life of service by going to work at the Red Cross or the soup kitchen, they don&#039;t have to clear your plates in the Sims or IRL. &quot;

Many people find it more Fulfilling serving a single person in more personal ways. There is an Intimacy, and shared feeling not possible in a food bank or soup Kitchen or other Sterile Assembly line service where the people you serve are nothing but an unending faceless line. But again,, it falls outside YOUR definition of service.
I think i begin to see more of a fear of the Deeper commitment our slaves/subs have for us, and us for them, than a revulsion to the lifestyle as everything you propose seems to be aimed at putting up &quot;safe barriers&quot; between peoples hearts.

That kind of Hollow, lonely eistance is not for us. but if others choose it for themselves, i will respect that choice, even if i do not embrace it.

Maria.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dyer:<br />
&#8220;See below under &#8220;Interview With Maria&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did. Nothing new as usual, Just the same admissions that you Simply Can not, or Will not understand a relationship that falls outside your preconceived notions.</p>
<p>Dyer:<br />
&#8220;I really ought to just create a bot that comes on these boards every day and just repeats the same thing &#8221;</p>
<p>Chere,, Re read your own posts,, Many of us thought you already had. Even when faced with Proof that you are wrong, you wait two posts then Repeat the Same Falacious arguements as though they had never been heard before (And Discredited).</p>
<p>Dyer:<br />
&#8220;There is another way. You can have a partner who is equal, who knows their own mind, who you respect, as an equal, not a slave. They can live a life of service by going to work at the Red Cross or the soup kitchen, they don&#8217;t have to clear your plates in the Sims or IRL. &#8221;</p>
<p>Many people find it more Fulfilling serving a single person in more personal ways. There is an Intimacy, and shared feeling not possible in a food bank or soup Kitchen or other Sterile Assembly line service where the people you serve are nothing but an unending faceless line. But again,, it falls outside YOUR definition of service.<br />
I think i begin to see more of a fear of the Deeper commitment our slaves/subs have for us, and us for them, than a revulsion to the lifestyle as everything you propose seems to be aimed at putting up &#8220;safe barriers&#8221; between peoples hearts.</p>
<p>That kind of Hollow, lonely eistance is not for us. but if others choose it for themselves, i will respect that choice, even if i do not embrace it.</p>
<p>Maria.</p>
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