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		<title>By: Botcode</title>
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		<dc:creator>Botcode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I come to this site alot, I play TSO way more than SecondLife, and this is my second time commenting.

I found this article when I was bored, I use a laptop and a program The EYE to help people get visitor time, and stuff.. but I do not use it much to make money.

I do admit, I have used bots that I programmed myself to do single job objects and have it work with The Eye, but because the TSO screen now moves when ur on for a while, I use only The Eye, but I still program bots for fun, with no purpose, some bots are like Auto-Cook bot to cook every time there is not much food, and various other &quot;dumb&quot; things.

It is possible to make more than 4k an hour, I have been at Chalkboard Sanctuary in Blazing Falls for an hour, and I made 5k in about 50 minutes with logic maxed and locked at 10.99

Bots are a gamers dream, some like GIR cost &lt;b&gt;TONS&lt;/b&gt; of money, I program myself, and thought about making bots, but I bought a bot called The EYE at mysimsonlinecheats.com and run it on my laptop, and I am typing this on my desktop with a nice flat panel screen.

Buying Simoleans online is almost like using a bot.. I know a trader/simolean and rare seller. Mr. Simoleans and lifeisanapple guys both use bots, lifeisanapple uses GIR, and leaves it running on multiple computers non-stop yet he only makes less than $1.5k a month in real life, yet still pays for hosting and stuff.

I think that bots and macroing is a way of gaming, and the game companies should learn, it is very easy to code human thoughts and stuff a human learns from a method into a game.

You click, then move the mouse up a few pixels, and click. A human memorises it, so then the bot will do the same.

Lots of bots come with free updates, and stuff.

I know I talk alot, but I really want to be heard, and based on other comments that are rude and racial, I can tell that the comments are not moderated, and are not removed.

Johnny Lace, I do not pizza or code or anything like that, as I only have one account for TSO, I used to have two, and I never once mazed with them, as I did not know how and liked doing single job objects.

I think auto-green bots are good for someone like me, I am a young adult, and I do &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; have a life in real, as in I do not have many friends or anything due to social disorders.
These use of different bots are good for auto-greenup because I have puppies, and they need me, I have three of them to think about, and I play with them, and take care of them. I need to use auto-green and auto-stay-alive bots to keep the client alive while I am taking care of the dogs, so I can simple come back, turn off the bot and continue gaming.

But please, do not abuse the use of bots, they will get more and more updates.

I have found on my own research (members area of my sims online cheats site, and from someone I met online) a &lt;i&gt;trick&lt;/i&gt; to let me lock energy and social at all green. It involves of only allowing one side of the bed to be open (either left or right, not top or botton), and then you can simply stay green.

But, bots do have bugs, like my laptop just accidently had this bot select learn to use on someone elses board, so it is good to keep an eye on your bot if you do use them, so that way you &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; make sure that you know its working properly.

Also, if anyone wants to know what happened to the deagolsoft site, that was work of me. Deagolsoft &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; one of the best maze bot makers, and also made phatmoneybot.

Best Reguards,
Mitchell
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I come to this site alot, I play TSO way more than SecondLife, and this is my second time commenting.</p>
<p>I found this article when I was bored, I use a laptop and a program The EYE to help people get visitor time, and stuff.. but I do not use it much to make money.</p>
<p>I do admit, I have used bots that I programmed myself to do single job objects and have it work with The Eye, but because the TSO screen now moves when ur on for a while, I use only The Eye, but I still program bots for fun, with no purpose, some bots are like Auto-Cook bot to cook every time there is not much food, and various other &#8220;dumb&#8221; things.</p>
<p>It is possible to make more than 4k an hour, I have been at Chalkboard Sanctuary in Blazing Falls for an hour, and I made 5k in about 50 minutes with logic maxed and locked at 10.99</p>
<p>Bots are a gamers dream, some like GIR cost <b>TONS</b> of money, I program myself, and thought about making bots, but I bought a bot called The EYE at mysimsonlinecheats.com and run it on my laptop, and I am typing this on my desktop with a nice flat panel screen.</p>
<p>Buying Simoleans online is almost like using a bot.. I know a trader/simolean and rare seller. Mr. Simoleans and lifeisanapple guys both use bots, lifeisanapple uses GIR, and leaves it running on multiple computers non-stop yet he only makes less than $1.5k a month in real life, yet still pays for hosting and stuff.</p>
<p>I think that bots and macroing is a way of gaming, and the game companies should learn, it is very easy to code human thoughts and stuff a human learns from a method into a game.</p>
<p>You click, then move the mouse up a few pixels, and click. A human memorises it, so then the bot will do the same.</p>
<p>Lots of bots come with free updates, and stuff.</p>
<p>I know I talk alot, but I really want to be heard, and based on other comments that are rude and racial, I can tell that the comments are not moderated, and are not removed.</p>
<p>Johnny Lace, I do not pizza or code or anything like that, as I only have one account for TSO, I used to have two, and I never once mazed with them, as I did not know how and liked doing single job objects.</p>
<p>I think auto-green bots are good for someone like me, I am a young adult, and I do <b>not</b> have a life in real, as in I do not have many friends or anything due to social disorders.<br />
These use of different bots are good for auto-greenup because I have puppies, and they need me, I have three of them to think about, and I play with them, and take care of them. I need to use auto-green and auto-stay-alive bots to keep the client alive while I am taking care of the dogs, so I can simple come back, turn off the bot and continue gaming.</p>
<p>But please, do not abuse the use of bots, they will get more and more updates.</p>
<p>I have found on my own research (members area of my sims online cheats site, and from someone I met online) a <i>trick</i> to let me lock energy and social at all green. It involves of only allowing one side of the bed to be open (either left or right, not top or botton), and then you can simply stay green.</p>
<p>But, bots do have bugs, like my laptop just accidently had this bot select learn to use on someone elses board, so it is good to keep an eye on your bot if you do use them, so that way you <i>can</i> make sure that you know its working properly.</p>
<p>Also, if anyone wants to know what happened to the deagolsoft site, that was work of me. Deagolsoft <i>was</i> one of the best maze bot makers, and also made phatmoneybot.</p>
<p>Best Reguards,<br />
Mitchell</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/in_praise_of_bo.html/comment-page-1#comment-50956</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 18:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall replying to this but what I basically said was...

With this declining payout and decreasing payouts, it is not possible to make more then $4k/hr... per single job object
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall replying to this but what I basically said was&#8230;</p>
<p>With this declining payout and decreasing payouts, it is not possible to make more then $4k/hr&#8230; per single job object</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Lace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Lace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, is it that low? I recall playing pizza &amp; code for around 10k an hour though (and maze around 25k an hour or so...100k as mentioned above seems a bit over the top with me. That&#039;s more than 1 maze every 20 seconds which is downright impossible.) . But I haven&#039;t played pizza or code for over a year, so my info might be dated a bit
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, is it that low? I recall playing pizza &#038; code for around 10k an hour though (and maze around 25k an hour or so&#8230;100k as mentioned above seems a bit over the top with me. That&#8217;s more than 1 maze every 20 seconds which is downright impossible.) . But I haven&#8217;t played pizza or code for over a year, so my info might be dated a bit</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/in_praise_of_bo.html/comment-page-1#comment-50954</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 13:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny, 10k an hour on Solo objects? it is like 3-4k if you are lucky and not afk...and that is if 11 other people are jobbing with you. Good points, maybe that is why Maxis keeps lowering payouts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny, 10k an hour on Solo objects? it is like 3-4k if you are lucky and not afk&#8230;and that is if 11 other people are jobbing with you. Good points, maybe that is why Maxis keeps lowering payouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Lace</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/in_praise_of_bo.html/comment-page-1#comment-50953</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Lace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we ignore the #1 reason for bots: simoleans represent RL value at sites such as ebay, the most biggest reason for bots to appear in the game is not sims being poor, it&#039;s money making being an utter bore.

10k starting money may not see much. Within a few weeks of play, every sim can be pretty rich. Allow me to explain. A smart new player who plays 1-2 hours a day (most new players will... the newness of a game always causes an addiction heeh) will:

* maximize a skill in 1 week.
* make around 10k an hour doing job objects (pizza, solo whatever)
* probably make around 50k a week this way. All the while he is chatting with others, making new friends etc.
* have made around 400k In 2 months of game time. This is enough to own a size 8 lot and have it filled up with decent stuff.

I.e. a new sim will have acquired the endgame in 2 months. After that they have nothing left to do. Games that only require 2 months of play time (at 10h a week)... what more can you wish for?

In the first weeks, sims are dead poor. After a half a year, sims have so much money they don&#039;t know what to do with it (they hire sickly expensive designers to create their house for a few hundred k hehe)

Face it, there IS no middle class ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we ignore the #1 reason for bots: simoleans represent RL value at sites such as ebay, the most biggest reason for bots to appear in the game is not sims being poor, it&#8217;s money making being an utter bore.</p>
<p>10k starting money may not see much. Within a few weeks of play, every sim can be pretty rich. Allow me to explain. A smart new player who plays 1-2 hours a day (most new players will&#8230; the newness of a game always causes an addiction heeh) will:</p>
<p>* maximize a skill in 1 week.<br />
* make around 10k an hour doing job objects (pizza, solo whatever)<br />
* probably make around 50k a week this way. All the while he is chatting with others, making new friends etc.<br />
* have made around 400k In 2 months of game time. This is enough to own a size 8 lot and have it filled up with decent stuff.</p>
<p>I.e. a new sim will have acquired the endgame in 2 months. After that they have nothing left to do. Games that only require 2 months of play time (at 10h a week)&#8230; what more can you wish for?</p>
<p>In the first weeks, sims are dead poor. After a half a year, sims have so much money they don&#8217;t know what to do with it (they hire sickly expensive designers to create their house for a few hundred k hehe)</p>
<p>Face it, there IS no middle class <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 11:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RB please IM me on Yahoo I added you to my list....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RB please IM me on Yahoo I added you to my list&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: humdog</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/in_praise_of_bo.html/comment-page-1#comment-50951</link>
		<dc:creator>humdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 11:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these are all very interesting comments.

i agree about cost of repairs to houses. the frequency of repairs required to houses is also stupid.  the other no doubt amusing situation to EA designer-sadists about repairs is that sometimes making repairs to electrical fixtures like lights or sound equipment is dangerous, and there are no warnings.  sims are sometimes killed doing electrical repairs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these are all very interesting comments.</p>
<p>i agree about cost of repairs to houses. the frequency of repairs required to houses is also stupid.  the other no doubt amusing situation to EA designer-sadists about repairs is that sometimes making repairs to electrical fixtures like lights or sound equipment is dangerous, and there are no warnings.  sims are sometimes killed doing electrical repairs.</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/in_praise_of_bo.html/comment-page-1#comment-50950</link>
		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your anti roomate comments would agree with this very old entry in my blog T.B :

http://www.rbs-blog.com/archives/000006.html

It was stupid way back then. It still is a lousy part of the game.

- RB
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your anti roomate comments would agree with this very old entry in my blog T.B :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rbs-blog.com/archives/000006.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rbs-blog.com/archives/000006.html</a></p>
<p>It was stupid way back then. It still is a lousy part of the game.</p>
<p>- RB</p>
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		<title>By: trailblazer</title>
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		<dc:creator>trailblazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 01:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the whole &quot;Roomie&quot; concept was the stupidest thing about TSO, nobody wan&#039;t to be a roomie for the most part, everyone that started playing TSO I am sure wanted their own lot and house, like in the offline version, and it&#039;s not like this would be just temporary a month or so, nope with the low payouts of TSO and the high cost of items it would be many months  before a casual player could even think about having their own place, if your a power player and played 15 plus hours a day everyday you might get to the independent owner status quicker.

Not to mention if you roomie at a skill house or other lot the owner sometime make you feel guilty for leaving, or treat you as more a employee than a roomie, demanding you be there to keep the place open and giving roomies shifts (Oh joy what fun, you leave your real job just to come home and log on for a virtual one), I just never one that considered spending 4 hours of game time catering to sims demanding food and having to entertain them, just so I can maybe get a hour or two to go out and try and earn my own simoleans to have my own place so I can get my own slave labo errr I mean roomies.

Is it no wonder people are leaving this game, I rather go back to my offline version and use my cheat and build again, yeah I might not get to chat with people, but hey thats what yahoo is for, and as was noted before, spending hours watching my little virtual Sim read or workout could have been better used in I don&#039;t know playing a game that was actually fun and enjoyable, I finally woke up and said this game is just stupid,boring and has no point, I had more fun playing the offline sims than I ever did playing TSO, I made friends on TSO and chatted with them, but I still do that on yahoo without paying 10 bucks a month.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the whole &#8220;Roomie&#8221; concept was the stupidest thing about TSO, nobody wan&#8217;t to be a roomie for the most part, everyone that started playing TSO I am sure wanted their own lot and house, like in the offline version, and it&#8217;s not like this would be just temporary a month or so, nope with the low payouts of TSO and the high cost of items it would be many months  before a casual player could even think about having their own place, if your a power player and played 15 plus hours a day everyday you might get to the independent owner status quicker.</p>
<p>Not to mention if you roomie at a skill house or other lot the owner sometime make you feel guilty for leaving, or treat you as more a employee than a roomie, demanding you be there to keep the place open and giving roomies shifts (Oh joy what fun, you leave your real job just to come home and log on for a virtual one), I just never one that considered spending 4 hours of game time catering to sims demanding food and having to entertain them, just so I can maybe get a hour or two to go out and try and earn my own simoleans to have my own place so I can get my own slave labo errr I mean roomies.</p>
<p>Is it no wonder people are leaving this game, I rather go back to my offline version and use my cheat and build again, yeah I might not get to chat with people, but hey thats what yahoo is for, and as was noted before, spending hours watching my little virtual Sim read or workout could have been better used in I don&#8217;t know playing a game that was actually fun and enjoyable, I finally woke up and said this game is just stupid,boring and has no point, I had more fun playing the offline sims than I ever did playing TSO, I made friends on TSO and chatted with them, but I still do that on yahoo without paying 10 bucks a month.</p>
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