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	<title>Comments on: The rise of Ted Castronova and the study of Virtual Economies</title>
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		<title>By: humdog</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50990</link>
		<dc:creator>humdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 19:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the point made by the walrus is a good point though: games generate real wealth for players.

&quot;...Then he performed one final analysis: The Gross National Product of EverQuest, measured by how much wealth all the players together created in a single year inside the game. It turned out to be $2,266 U.S. per capita. By World Bank rankings, that made EverQuest richer than India, Bulgaria, or China, and nearly as wealthy as Russia...&quot;

&quot;...Twenty percent of players agreed with the cheeky (if alarming) statement &quot;I live in Norrath but I travel outside of it regularly&quot;; on average, each of these &quot;residents&quot; possessed virtual goods worth about $3,000 U.S. &quot;When you consider that the average real-life income in America is only, like, thirty-seven thousand,&quot; Castronova tells me, &quot;you realize these people have a non-trivial amount of wealth locked up inside the games...&quot;

&#039;...For now, there is no clear precedent on how to deal with virtual property. Owning a virtual castle is not like owning other virtual things, such as stock in a company, because the value is not in an external, tangible object such as a corporation, but in the work and money invested in acquiring it.

With stakes like that, said Jack Balkin, a Yale law professor and a host of the legal conference, players will probably fight back with lawsuits, or by going right to politicians, demanding legislation to prevent worlds from closing down...&#039;


this is important stuff.

could we keep our eyes on the ball, please, guys?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the point made by the walrus is a good point though: games generate real wealth for players.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Then he performed one final analysis: The Gross National Product of EverQuest, measured by how much wealth all the players together created in a single year inside the game. It turned out to be $2,266 U.S. per capita. By World Bank rankings, that made EverQuest richer than India, Bulgaria, or China, and nearly as wealthy as Russia&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Twenty percent of players agreed with the cheeky (if alarming) statement &#8220;I live in Norrath but I travel outside of it regularly&#8221;; on average, each of these &#8220;residents&#8221; possessed virtual goods worth about $3,000 U.S. &#8220;When you consider that the average real-life income in America is only, like, thirty-seven thousand,&#8221; Castronova tells me, &#8220;you realize these people have a non-trivial amount of wealth locked up inside the games&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;For now, there is no clear precedent on how to deal with virtual property. Owning a virtual castle is not like owning other virtual things, such as stock in a company, because the value is not in an external, tangible object such as a corporation, but in the work and money invested in acquiring it.</p>
<p>With stakes like that, said Jack Balkin, a Yale law professor and a host of the legal conference, players will probably fight back with lawsuits, or by going right to politicians, demanding legislation to prevent worlds from closing down&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>this is important stuff.</p>
<p>could we keep our eyes on the ball, please, guys?</p>
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		<title>By: Urizenus</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50989</link>
		<dc:creator>Urizenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 13:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bug Tester, what do you care how far they drove to take JC&#039;s picture?  The point is they hired someone to do it.  They didn&#039;t come take my picture.  Or yours either, I might add.

Dyerbrook, you&#039;ve crossed the line between cryptic and unintelligible.  You&#039;re on the other side now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bug Tester, what do you care how far they drove to take JC&#8217;s picture?  The point is they hired someone to do it.  They didn&#8217;t come take my picture.  Or yours either, I might add.</p>
<p>Dyerbrook, you&#8217;ve crossed the line between cryptic and unintelligible.  You&#8217;re on the other side now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyerbrook</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50988</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyerbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 12:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*reads article, then takes out rag and wipes splatter off inner side of computer screen*. Um, Uri, you done with that, er self-run Sim yet?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*reads article, then takes out rag and wipes splatter off inner side of computer screen*. Um, Uri, you done with that, er self-run Sim yet?</p>
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		<title>By: JC Soprano</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50987</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Soprano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the photographer was from LA.  Her and her bf drove up here, which is about an 8 hour drive.  I know, I talked to them and The Walrus.  What&#039;s it matter anyway?  I just thought it was funny.

JC Soprano
www.thesimmafia.com
Fughedaboudit!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the photographer was from LA.  Her and her bf drove up here, which is about an 8 hour drive.  I know, I talked to them and The Walrus.  What&#8217;s it matter anyway?  I just thought it was funny.</p>
<p>JC Soprano<br />
<a href="http://www.thesimmafia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesimmafia.com</a><br />
Fughedaboudit!</p>
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		<title>By: TBT</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50986</link>
		<dc:creator>TBT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 11:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you really think someone actully drove 800 miles for a picture of you? LMAO Jeez NO! magazines and newspapers have reporters/photographers all over and if not they often hire freelance people to cover somewhere that they normally don&#039;t do.. The person was probably someone local to you or not so far away, but 800 miles, I seriously doubt it, LOL....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really think someone actully drove 800 miles for a picture of you? LMAO Jeez NO! magazines and newspapers have reporters/photographers all over and if not they often hire freelance people to cover somewhere that they normally don&#8217;t do.. The person was probably someone local to you or not so far away, but 800 miles, I seriously doubt it, LOL&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Storm Armone</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50985</link>
		<dc:creator>Storm Armone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 10:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lmao .. So much bs , ahh well
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lmao .. So much bs , ahh well</p>
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		<title>By: JC Soprano</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/05/the_rise_of_ted.html/comment-page-1#comment-50984</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Soprano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said we had upwords to 100 members in the interview.  It&#039;s funny a photographer drove up 800 miles to take my picture for the article and it&#039;s not even a paragraph really lolol  Too funny, good times.

JC Soprano
www.thesimmafia.com
I wonder who will talk crap first??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said we had upwords to 100 members in the interview.  It&#8217;s funny a photographer drove up 800 miles to take my picture for the article and it&#8217;s not even a paragraph really lolol  Too funny, good times.</p>
<p>JC Soprano<br />
<a href="http://www.thesimmafia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesimmafia.com</a><br />
I wonder who will talk crap first??</p>
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