Comments on: Chad Thomas found innocent. http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Cocoanut http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49311 Cocoanut Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:40:38 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49311 Uri, what makes you think we have a democracy in TSO anyway? Do you think it is there in some sort of hidden constitution? Because it is a game, it is even more necessary to have rules clearly stated. When the rules are absent - and people are voting multiple times or dragging their grandmothers in to vote from the rest home - obviously a jury is going to have a hard time convicting anyone on the law. If there is no law, you can't convict someone on the law. Easy. coco Uri, what makes you think we have a democracy in TSO anyway?

Do you think it is there in some sort of hidden constitution?

Because it is a game, it is even more necessary to have rules clearly stated. When the rules are absent – and people are voting multiple times or dragging their grandmothers in to vote from the rest home – obviously a jury is going to have a hard time convicting anyone on the law.

If there is no law, you can’t convict someone on the law. Easy.

coco

]]> By: urizenus http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49310 urizenus Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:31:37 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49310 Look first of all, this doesnt have to do with intelligence -- just a grasp of basic democratic principles. The stuff you are supposed to learn in grade school. Second, I don't have a problem with the results of the trial. I think Chad was just a scapegoat anyway, for a government that did not respect or nurture democratic values in its employees. Third, I'm saying that Carmella's attitudes about democratic principles disqualify her from being a judge. Look first of all, this doesnt have to do with intelligence — just a grasp of basic democratic principles. The stuff you are supposed to learn in grade school. Second, I don’t have a problem with the results of the trial. I think Chad was just a scapegoat anyway, for a government that did not respect or nurture democratic values in its employees. Third, I’m saying that Carmella’s attitudes about democratic principles disqualify her from being a judge.

]]> By: Cocoanut http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49309 Cocoanut Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:48:12 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49309 The people have spoken, Uri. You just don't like it. Moreover, you figure (as usual) that the people can't possibly possess a modicum of intelligence. You figure Carmella could have and should have controlled the outcome of the trial. Moreover, you sound mighty smug about your "one-person-one-vote" epiphany. But what about dragging in votes from non-citizens? Where was your righteousness when Ashley was getting all her non-playing friends to vote? If you think the trial was a travesty of justice, then go dig up all the witnesses and jurors and berate them. Stop blaming the judge. The people have spoken, but your contempt for the people makes you incapable of accepting that. coco The people have spoken, Uri. You just don’t like it.

Moreover, you figure (as usual) that the people can’t possibly possess a modicum of intelligence. You figure Carmella could have and should have controlled the outcome of the trial.

Moreover, you sound mighty smug about your “one-person-one-vote” epiphany. But what about dragging in votes from non-citizens? Where was your righteousness when Ashley was getting all her non-playing friends to vote?

If you think the trial was a travesty of justice, then go dig up all the witnesses and jurors and berate them. Stop blaming the judge. The people have spoken, but your contempt for the people makes you incapable of accepting that.

coco

]]> By: urizenus http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49308 urizenus Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:07:49 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49308 Well Carmella, if you think that the idea of one person one vote is wrong then I guess we'll just have to disagree. Or if you think that judges shouldn't have to uphold such principles then we disagree again. And know what? I have no problem with disagreeing with you on those two points. Well Carmella, if you think that the idea of one person one vote is wrong then I guess we’ll just have to disagree. Or if you think that judges shouldn’t have to uphold such principles then we disagree again. And know what? I have no problem with disagreeing with you on those two points.

]]> By: Carmella http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49307 Carmella Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:07:46 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49307 Urizenus? Does your name translate to #$@. Because you certainly are one. I am so glad that we have someone like you to inform us of the errors of our ways. Certainly someone who is as smart as you should be the leader, someone that can only see things one way and all those that disagree must be wrong. Urizenus? Does your name translate to #$@. Because you certainly are one. I am so glad that we have someone like you to inform us of the errors of our ways. Certainly someone who is as smart as you should be the leader, someone that can only see things one way and all those that disagree must be wrong.

]]> By: urizenus http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49306 urizenus Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:48:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49306 Carmella, I think we're getting distracted from the key point here, which is that your failure to understand that "one person one vote" is a basic priciple of democracy. Your statement that "First of all, where did it state that "THERE WAS TO BE ONE VOTE PER CITISIM?"" is not just nauseating, but shows that you did not understand your role in this trial and had no business presiding over it. I don't care what the outcome or whatever else happens. The point is this, that until we get off this dumb idea that the only valid principles in cyberspace are those that are enumerated with bullets and posted somewhere, we will never be able to form viable legal and political institutions. Why? Because legal and political institutions are not formed in vacuums by lists of rules, but must be integrated with a rich legal and constitutional tradition. If you have no knowledge of that tradition or no interest in preserving it then you have no business being a judge -- even a virtual judge. Carmella, I think we’re getting distracted from the key point here, which is that your failure to understand that “one person one vote” is a basic priciple of democracy. Your statement that “First of all, where did it state that “THERE WAS TO BE ONE VOTE PER CITISIM?”" is not just nauseating, but shows that you did not understand your role in this trial and had no business presiding over it. I don’t care what the outcome or whatever else happens.

The point is this, that until we get off this dumb idea that the only valid principles in cyberspace are those that are enumerated with bullets and posted somewhere, we will never be able to form viable legal and political institutions. Why? Because legal and political institutions are not formed in vacuums by lists of rules, but must be integrated with a rich legal and constitutional tradition. If you have no knowledge of that tradition or no interest in preserving it then you have no business being a judge — even a virtual judge.

]]> By: Ian http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49305 Ian Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:39:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49305 ehhh, I would but i dont play tso anymore, however, i think that the avg is a lost cause anyways. ehhh, I would but i dont play tso anymore, however, i think that the avg is a lost cause anyways.

]]> By: Carmella http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49304 Carmella Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:23:07 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49304 You are right..David or Robert could have payed them off..Hope that David didn't, cuz he got ripped off if he did.. And Robert?... I think that the jury just found Robert's questions more compelling. So..does this mean that you are in charge of the new elections? :) Carmella You are right..David or Robert could have payed them off..Hope that David didn’t, cuz he got ripped off if he did.. And Robert?…

I think that the jury just found Robert’s questions more compelling.

So..does this mean that you are in charge of the new elections? :)

Carmella

]]> By: Ian http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49303 Ian Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:33:58 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49303 Carmella that idea sounds great! I agree! But like I said, perhaps David or Robert paid some jurors off, who knows. Carmella that idea sounds great! I agree!

But like I said, perhaps David or Robert paid some jurors off, who knows.

]]> By: Carmella http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/08/chad_thomas_fou.html/comment-page-1#comment-49302 Carmella Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:22:57 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2731#comment-49302 Yes...let's look at the list of jurors.. One's that both David and Robert the man chose. Yes, I was surprised by some of their selections but both David and Robert had to agree in order for a citisims to be placed in the jury box. There were more jurors to chose from. Edinahornet was not their only choice. He was the 5th jury to be seated. I have to admit that in the beginning I was personally insulted by the constant references that I was somehow bias or bought. But after reading the comments here I understand that no one, no jury, no judge, no attorney could stop the constant whining about the election. Why not just have a new election, perhaps some of you that did not like the outcome of the last election could help out with it. Make sure that all rules be posted clearly, that all votes are counted correctly, and verify all incoming votes as legal. Gather new candidates as well as the president-elect and put it out there for re-election. And possibly put the past behind us. Carmella Yes…let’s look at the list of jurors.. One’s that both David and Robert the man chose. Yes, I was surprised by some of their selections but both David and Robert had to agree in order for a citisims to be placed in the jury box. There were more jurors to chose from. Edinahornet was not their only choice. He was the 5th jury to be seated.

I have to admit that in the beginning I was personally insulted by the constant references that I was somehow bias or bought.

But after reading the comments here I understand that no one, no jury, no judge, no attorney could stop the constant whining about the election.

Why not just have a new election, perhaps some of you that did not like the outcome of the last election could help out with it. Make sure that all rules be posted clearly, that all votes are counted correctly, and verify all incoming votes as legal. Gather new candidates as well as the president-elect and put it out there for re-election. And possibly put the past behind us.

Carmella

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