Comments on: SL Escorts: Good Times or Virtual Sex Slavery? http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: john handcock http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-72091 john handcock Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:53:10 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-72091 i am wondering if any one in sl has a male escort job available i am wondering if any one in sl has a male escort job available

]]> By: Maria LaVeaux http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48679 Maria LaVeaux Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:38:08 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48679 If you aren't reading, then that means you aren't open to hearing any opinion other than your own. Unfortunate, you will never really learn anything that way. Thank you for your opinions. Maria. If you aren’t reading, then that means you aren’t open to hearing any opinion other than your own.
Unfortunate, you will never really learn anything that way.

Thank you for your opinions.

Maria.

]]> By: Death Grace http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48678 Death Grace Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:48:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48678 editor : *objectifying a person in that is disrespecful eve if this isnt the intention. editor : *objectifying a person in that is disrespecful eve if this isnt the intention.

]]> By: Death Grace http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48677 Death Grace Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:14:10 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48677 well i guess there is soemthing to be said for self objectification. evedently she doesnt have to much respect to be refered to as a toy. objectifying a person in that matter is disrespectful even if your knowingly doign it. for her to be your "best toy" then there is competition to be the best toy. :) sorry i dont have 2.3 million years to read teh rest of yoru post. cause i simply dont care enough. keep it short and sweet thanks :) well i guess there is soemthing to be said for self objectification. evedently she doesnt have to much respect to be refered to as a toy. objectifying a person in that matter is disrespectful even if your knowingly doign it. for her to be your “best toy” then there is competition to be the best toy. :) sorry i dont have 2.3 million years to read teh rest of yoru post. cause i simply dont care enough. keep it short and sweet thanks :)

]]> By: Maria laVeaux http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48676 Maria laVeaux Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:31:43 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48676 Deathgrace, First of all, you won't get heat from me on your opinions, as i said, I'm a fan of reasoned debate. Second, "exploit girls that are to down on themselves. " Obviously, you have not reat any of the previous postings by my best girl toy, If you had, you would see a young woman who is so Not down on herself. she has pride,independance and self respect. she has selected a life of service as the best expression of her personal generosity, and the fact that i choose only to take on girls with these personal traits shows that i do Not exploit. I don't take on newbs, If i DO take on a girl who i feel is down on her self (And there have been one or two) it is with the intent of turning them around. I am no fan of low self esteem either. I find it disheartening that people equate toy's sort of generosity, and her desire to serve as weakness. In her RL, she is a caring, helpful person, who is considerate of othersfeelings and needs, but Never to the detriment of herself. she isn't a Victem, she Isn't a martyr, she Isn't an attention hog, and she Isn't a doormat, and I wouldn't want her if she was. Read the interview that toy and i did some months ago, and concentrate on toy's writings. It's a different outlook from yours, but i think you will see the flaws in your impressions of us. Yes, i feel bad when someone is exploited, but my contention is, No exploitation took place. People chose to be in these situations On line and are free to walk away at any time, Just as angeltk beckenbauer did No one held her, no one coerced her, she got tired of what she was doing, and stopped. One last point. If this had been a theatre company, performing Shakespear, instead of a strip club, would we be having this conversation at all? Let's be honest, its the fact the women are stripping that upsets people, Not any Illusion that they are being held against their will. Maria Deathgrace, First of all, you won’t get heat from me on your opinions, as i said, I’m a fan of reasoned debate.
Second,
“exploit girls that are to down on themselves. ”
Obviously, you have not reat any of the previous postings by my best girl toy, If you had, you would see a young woman who is so Not down on herself. she has pride,independance and self respect. she has selected a life of service as the best expression of her personal generosity, and the fact that i choose only to take on girls with these personal traits shows that i do Not exploit. I don’t take on newbs, If i DO take on a girl who i feel is down on her self (And there have been one or two) it is with the intent of turning them around. I am no fan of low self esteem either.
I find it disheartening that people equate toy’s sort of generosity, and her desire to serve as weakness. In her RL, she is a caring, helpful person, who is considerate of othersfeelings and needs, but Never to the detriment of herself. she isn’t a Victem, she Isn’t a martyr, she Isn’t an attention hog, and she Isn’t a doormat, and I wouldn’t want her if she was.
Read the interview that toy and i did some months ago, and concentrate on toy’s writings. It’s a different outlook from yours, but i think you will see the flaws in your impressions of us.
Yes, i feel bad when someone is exploited, but my contention is, No exploitation took place. People chose to be in these situations On line and are free to walk away at any time, Just as angeltk beckenbauer did No one held her, no one coerced her, she got tired of what she was doing, and stopped.

One last point.
If this had been a theatre company, performing Shakespear, instead of a strip club, would we be having this conversation at all? Let’s be honest, its the fact the women are stripping that upsets people, Not any Illusion that they are being held against their will.

Maria

]]> By: Death GRace http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48675 Death GRace Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:48:24 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48675 ok your pets maria? you feel bad cause soem newbs were exploited yet you and people like you exploit girls that are to down on themselves. and as pets i mean slaves. if you dont have slaves then im sorry but this is abotu slaves. the thing is that i think a large thing on the net that is a problem is this suto gorean slave fetish bullshit. the thing is this there are alot of girls and guys that have low self estems and they thing they have to engage in this activity for the attention and affection they receive. im sure there are a few that acutally live and like the sub/ dom shit but its way out of porportion. i know its cute sometime to see a chick and she has a little girl as her slaves. kinda kinky. however it is used by some like a person that used to be in sl caleld glyth stryker as a tool to control females. and this is another main form of exploitation in my opinion. after living under subituve and your always around others that are doign the same then im sure they dont really see there being a much better life than that. i know im talking in circles but its 2:46 and i wanted to put in my 2 contriversal cents. i know im goign to get heat for htis but it needs to be said. if you wanna be a solid barefoot and pragent women then just be you dont have to have a colar around your neck to be submissive. women were doing it back before equal rights for women back when a women said soemthing out of turn they got 5 across the eyes. same shit mostly in my mind. with maybe 6 degrees of seperation. so get into the kitchen and make me some pie before i kick you in the nizuts. ok your pets maria? you feel bad cause soem newbs were exploited yet you and people like you exploit girls that are to down on themselves. and as pets i mean slaves. if you dont have slaves then im sorry but this is abotu slaves. the thing is that i think a large thing on the net that is a problem is this suto gorean slave fetish bullshit. the thing is this there are alot of girls and guys that have low self estems and they thing they have to engage in this activity for the attention and affection they receive. im sure there are a few that acutally live and like the sub/ dom shit but its way out of porportion. i know its cute sometime to see a chick and she has a little girl as her slaves. kinda kinky. however it is used by some like a person that used to be in sl caleld glyth stryker as a tool to control females. and this is another main form of exploitation in my opinion. after living under subituve and your always around others that are doign the same then im sure they dont really see there being a much better life than that. i know im talking in circles but its 2:46 and i wanted to put in my 2 contriversal cents. i know im goign to get heat for htis but it needs to be said. if you wanna be a solid barefoot and pragent women then just be you dont have to have a colar around your neck to be submissive. women were doing it back before equal rights for women back when a women said soemthing out of turn they got 5 across the eyes. same shit mostly in my mind. with maybe 6 degrees of seperation. so get into the kitchen and make me some pie before i kick you in the nizuts.

]]> By: Maria laVeaux http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48674 Maria laVeaux Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:18:45 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48674 I don't mean to lecture Onesong, I'm a fan of calm and reasonable debate. If i had come home after a night like you describe, I probably would have reacted the same. Alchohol. and E-mail don't mix. Lol. Cherry, "But I assure you, upon your return, you will be treated with the repect you deserve. If any one of my employee's were to treat you any differently, they would be dealt with immediately." As i stated, It was friends of mine who were poorly treated, I stopped going because I had recommended the club to them, and i felt responsible for what they experienced. I myself, and my pets were always well treated there. I hope i also made it clear that In no way do i blame One Song for what happened. I am glad you are so conciensious about standards at the club, and i wish you success. Maria (Angelique) I don’t mean to lecture Onesong, I’m a fan of calm and reasonable debate. If i had come home after a night like you describe, I probably would have reacted the same. Alchohol. and E-mail don’t mix. Lol.

Cherry,
“But I assure you, upon your return, you will be treated with the repect you deserve. If any one of my employee’s were to treat you any differently, they would be dealt with immediately.”
As i stated, It was friends of mine who were poorly treated, I stopped going because I had recommended the club to them, and i felt responsible for what they experienced. I myself, and my pets were always well treated there. I hope i also made it clear that In no way do i blame One Song for what happened. I am glad you are so conciensious about standards at the club, and i wish you success.

Maria (Angelique)

]]> By: CherryBomb Hare http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48673 CherryBomb Hare Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:29:00 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48673 *Claps* Bravo Marie!! I loved your post. I couldn't of said it any better myself. "I stopped going to the club when some friends of mine were treated with Gross disrespect by other patrons, with the Tacit approval of two of One Songs Assistant managers, Despite the clubs posted "Zero Tolerance policy" for Prejudice, and Disrespect." As new manager of Diamonds, I'm very sorry to hear that. I've watched One Song struggle for many months trying to find good management for his club. You know the old saying, good help is hard to find. So very true. But I assure you, upon your return, you will be treated with the repect you deserve. If any one of my employee's were to treat you any differently, they would be dealt with immediately. One Song also felt that 75% of time spent at the club was to much time at work. It is now 50% of your game time. Though, I make work fun, and I find that a lot my employee's spend much more time there. It is in fact, our home. Slander is a very difficult thing to deal with. I've watched this happen to One Song time and time again. I don't blame him for his sudden outburst. Under this situation, I think anyone would have reacted the same. Just for the fact that I had talked to One Song about giving angelkt another chance at the friendship they once had shared. This is what angelkt wanted. Now, I don't hold any grugges against her personally. She has been nothing but kind to me. But in my opinion, if she truely valued his friendship, she wouldn't of posted what she did. That's not friendship, that's revenge. True friends don't do that to one another. I've been spending a lot of time with One Song this past month. We talk on a daily basis. And I can't BELIEVE how often people try to fuck him over. It truely amazes me! He is a man of his word, I wish I could say the same for all these people that contantly try to screw him over in one way or another. And because of this, he gets a bad repution in game? PLEASE people, we are all adults here, lets act like it. Unless you personally know him, you have NO right to judge him. *Claps* Bravo Marie!! I loved your post. I couldn’t of said it any better myself.

“I stopped going to the club when some friends of mine were treated with Gross disrespect by other patrons, with the Tacit approval of two of One Songs Assistant managers, Despite the clubs posted “Zero Tolerance policy” for Prejudice, and Disrespect.” As new manager of Diamonds, I’m very sorry to hear that. I’ve watched One Song struggle for many months trying to find good management for his club. You know the old saying, good help is hard to find. So very true. But I assure you, upon your return, you will be treated with the repect you deserve. If any one of my employee’s were to treat you any differently, they would be dealt with immediately.

One Song also felt that 75% of time spent at the club was to much time at work. It is now 50% of your game time. Though, I make work fun, and I find that a lot my employee’s spend much more time there. It is in fact, our home.

Slander is a very difficult thing to deal with. I’ve watched this happen to One Song time and time again. I don’t blame him for his sudden outburst. Under this situation, I think anyone would have reacted the same. Just for the fact that I had talked to One Song about giving angelkt another chance at the friendship they once had shared. This is what angelkt wanted. Now, I don’t hold any grugges against her personally. She has been nothing but kind to me. But in my opinion, if she truely valued his friendship, she wouldn’t of posted what she did. That’s not friendship, that’s revenge. True friends don’t do that to one another.

I’ve been spending a lot of time with One Song this past month. We talk on a daily basis. And I can’t BELIEVE how often people try to fuck him over. It truely amazes me! He is a man of his word, I wish I could say the same for all these people that contantly try to screw him over in one way or another. And because of this, he gets a bad repution in game? PLEASE people, we are all adults here, lets act like it. Unless you personally know him, you have NO right to judge him.

]]> By: One Song http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48672 One Song Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:54:46 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48672 Yes.... I agree maria.... I written that post when 1am after coming back from a night out with friends....drunk 12 JDs and coke I wasn't in the best state of mine...my appologies for language used. Yes…. I agree maria…. I written that post when 1am after coming back from a night out with friends….drunk 12 JDs and coke I wasn’t in the best state of mine…my appologies for language used.

]]> By: Maria LaVeaux http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/10/sl_escorts_good.html/comment-page-1#comment-48671 Maria LaVeaux Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:20:35 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2646#comment-48671 First, let me Address this- "Just because you like doing something it doesn't mean you're not being exploited. In fact, it makes it a lot easier to exploit you." Uri, quite right, but, Define Exploitation here for us. If you mean Monitary, then the Lions share of the profits going to the Dancers sort of blows this theory. If you mean sexual, Perhaps, but then, one could say the same for the PATRONS of such clubs. Aren't the club owners AND the dancers/escorts conspiring to use the patrons sexual desires to seperate him/her from their money?? Just a thought. Anyone in these establishments can walk away any time they want to with No financial, Physical or social reprocussions. Exploitation is, quite simply not possible. the freedom of choice of all involved negates such a possibility. As to Diamond social club, and One Song. I know them both (Angelique LaFollette here chere. :) )I found One Songs rules for his employees stringent (Dancers are expected to spend 75% of their In-Game time working at the club), but then, he WAS trying to run an effective business, and he did. I stopped going to the club when some friends of mine were treated with Gross disrespect by other patrons, with the Tacit approval of two of One Songs Assistant managers, Despite the clubs posted "Zero Tolerance policy" for Prejudice, and Disrespect. One Song himself however, has always acted fairly, and i have no problems with him personally. In short, I find there is no real case for "Volentary exploitation" Everyone ther is doing precicely what they want to do. If they stop wanting to do it, they stop. No problem. Angel, You and i have met, and you are a sweet girl. You discovered there is more to SL than a hard daily grind. (For me, this is what i come to SL to get away from. Lol.) It sounds to me though, your problems with One Song were more personal than professional. If i have read wrong, I apologize, but that is how it looks to me. the point is, when it stopped being fun, you left, and no one stopped you. One Song, Let it go. I know what she said made you mad, and your post is a good example of why one should Never Write E-Mails when one is still angry. Threats, and Histrionics only help the points of those who are attacking you. Calmly setting the record straight would have had more impact. Maria (Angelique) First, let me Address this-
“Just because you like doing something it doesn’t mean you’re not being exploited. In fact, it makes it a lot easier to exploit you.”

Uri, quite right, but, Define Exploitation here for us.
If you mean Monitary, then the Lions share of the profits going to the Dancers sort of blows this theory.
If you mean sexual, Perhaps, but then, one could say the same for the PATRONS of such clubs. Aren’t the club owners AND the dancers/escorts conspiring to use the patrons sexual desires to seperate him/her from their money??
Just a thought.

Anyone in these establishments can walk away any time they want to with No financial, Physical or social reprocussions.

Exploitation is, quite simply not possible. the freedom of choice of all involved negates such a possibility.

As to Diamond social club, and One Song.
I know them both (Angelique LaFollette here chere. :) )I found One Songs rules for his employees stringent (Dancers are expected to spend 75% of their In-Game time working at the club), but then, he WAS trying to run an effective business, and he did. I stopped going to the club when some friends of mine were treated with Gross disrespect by other patrons, with the Tacit approval of two of One Songs Assistant managers, Despite the clubs posted “Zero Tolerance policy” for Prejudice, and Disrespect. One Song himself however, has always acted fairly, and i have no problems with him personally.

In short, I find there is no real case for “Volentary exploitation” Everyone ther is doing precicely what they want to do. If they stop wanting to do it, they stop. No problem.

Angel, You and i have met, and you are a sweet girl. You discovered there is more to SL than a hard daily grind. (For me, this is what i come to SL to get away from. Lol.) It sounds to me though, your problems with One Song were more personal than professional. If i have read wrong, I apologize, but that is how it looks to me. the point is, when it stopped being fun, you left, and no one stopped you.

One Song,
Let it go. I know what she said made you mad, and your post is a good example of why one should Never Write E-Mails when one is still angry. Threats, and Histrionics only help the points of those who are attacking you. Calmly setting the record straight would have had more impact.

Maria (Angelique)

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