Comments on: What Lies Beneath: A Meditation on the Digisoul http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Walker Spaight http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47179 Walker Spaight Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:12:58 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47179 Yes, Bud, but surely what you're saying is that #4 above is greater than the sum of its bytes. Yes, Bud, but surely what you’re saying is that #4 above is greater than the sum of its bytes.

]]> By: budka groshomme http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47178 budka groshomme Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:23:38 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47178 1. Yes, it was intended to be humor. 2. Friday IS April Fool's Day 3. I do know that the light goes off. 4. The digisoul is the archived user file that contains your account numbers, real name, personal data, 2L name, all of your preferences, and your entire inventory. It is awakened whenever you log on. 5. The Paul Almond article is superb! I didn't know someone could spend so many words on the subject. 1. Yes, it was intended to be humor.
2. Friday IS April Fool’s Day
3. I do know that the light goes off.
4. The digisoul is the archived user file that contains your account numbers, real name, personal data, 2L name, all of your preferences, and your entire inventory. It is awakened whenever you log on.
5. The Paul Almond article is superb! I didn’t know someone could spend so many words on the subject.

]]> By: Neal Stewart http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47177 Neal Stewart Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:21:35 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47177 Heh heh. That was great, Bud. I'll have to have a bit of a think about what DOES happen to those souls :) It reminds me of a paper I've been meaning to read by Paul Almond aka 'Diaspar Medici' in SL: "Did 'I' Write This?" http://www.paul-almond.com/DidIWriteThis.htm "Most people believe in some sort of continuity of existence, or 'continuity of self'. This is the idea that the same 'you' existed yesterday, exists now and will hopefully exist tomorrow..." 13 days ago Paul also published a large piece on SL which I didn't link to at the Herald because I'm hoping to read it properly and come up with some good questions for him: "Taking the Virtual out of Virtual Reality" http://www.paul-almond.com/TakingTheVirtualOutOfVirtualReality.htm Heh heh. That was great, Bud. I’ll have to have a bit of a think about what DOES happen to those souls :) It reminds me of a paper I’ve been meaning to read by Paul Almond aka ‘Diaspar Medici’ in SL:
“Did ‘I’ Write This?”
http://www.paul-almond.com/DidIWriteThis.htm
“Most people believe in some sort of continuity of existence, or ‘continuity of self’. This is the idea that the same ‘you’ existed yesterday, exists now and will hopefully exist tomorrow…”

13 days ago Paul also published a large piece on SL which I didn’t link to at the Herald because I’m hoping to read it properly and come up with some good questions for him:
“Taking the Virtual out of Virtual Reality”
http://www.paul-almond.com/TakingTheVirtualOutOfVirtualReality.htm

]]> By: Erik Mondrian http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47176 Erik Mondrian Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:07:10 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47176 Because Friday is April Fool's Day, of course, a perfect day for this excellent and somewhat subtly tongue-in-cheek article! :) At least, that's what I *think* he meant... Because Friday is April Fool’s Day, of course, a perfect day for this excellent and somewhat subtly tongue-in-cheek article! :)

At least, that’s what I *think* he meant…

]]> By: Clark Ambassador http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47175 Clark Ambassador Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:55:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47175 That's deep. Interesting perspective. By the way-- the light does go off. That’s deep. Interesting perspective.

By the way– the light does go off.

]]> By: Walker Spaight http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47174 Walker Spaight Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:11:50 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47174 Why Friday, Bud? We can always link back to it from your Friday piece, btw. Why Friday, Bud? We can always link back to it from your Friday piece, btw.

]]> By: Walker Spaight http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47173 Walker Spaight Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:10:35 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47173 I think what Bud's talking about is the _avatar's_ soul as distinct from the avatar itself. I think. While I am waiting for my av to re-rez, it's the RL me and my RL soul that are doing the waiting. But what's happening to my avatar's SL soul, its digisoul, as my avatar is caught in the server-space between telehubs? At least I think this is what he's talking about. Bud? I think what Bud’s talking about is the _avatar’s_ soul as distinct from the avatar itself. I think. While I am waiting for my av to re-rez, it’s the RL me and my RL soul that are doing the waiting. But what’s happening to my avatar’s SL soul, its digisoul, as my avatar is caught in the server-space between telehubs? At least I think this is what he’s talking about. Bud?

]]> By: Budka Groshomme http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47172 Budka Groshomme Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:59:44 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47172 Maybe this should have run on Friday<g></g> Maybe this should have run on Friday

]]> By: Urizenus http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/03/what_lies_benea.html/comment-page-1#comment-47171 Urizenus Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2429#comment-47171 Bud, it's unusual that you think of the avatar as being soul-like, when most would think of it as being virtual flesh; its not the virtual soul being abandoned but the virtual body. I don't have a problem with flipping this, but it does seem to entail that the properties of our soul can be morphed by sliders, that our souls can be skinned and reskinned, and that the soul itself (not just the body) can be clothed and decked out in bling. Well, why not. The teleporting issue is similar. I've had bad teleporting experiences in which my avi morphed into that short woman avi. Attachments and scripted objects have also been known to break in teleportation. But the ususal thought would be that while you are waiting to re-rez you are just waiting for your virtual body to rez. If you are waiting for the soul to rez, well then you might ask who is doing the waiting. not the body. The mind? Well then you have a kind of split between mind and soul, but that suggests that when you teleport you are not only disembodied but de-souled. I dunno. maybe. Bud, it’s unusual that you think of the avatar as being soul-like, when most would think of it as being virtual flesh; its not the virtual soul being abandoned but the virtual body. I don’t have a problem with flipping this, but it does seem to entail that the properties of our soul can be morphed by sliders, that our souls can be skinned and reskinned, and that the soul itself (not just the body) can be clothed and decked out in bling. Well, why not.

The teleporting issue is similar. I’ve had bad teleporting experiences in which my avi morphed into that short woman avi. Attachments and scripted objects have also been known to break in teleportation. But the ususal thought would be that while you are waiting to re-rez you are just waiting for your virtual body to rez. If you are waiting for the soul to rez, well then you might ask who is doing the waiting. not the body. The mind? Well then you have a kind of split between mind and soul, but that suggests that when you teleport you are not only disembodied but de-souled. I dunno. maybe.

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