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		<title>By: phoebe</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/05/collared_a_newb.html/comment-page-1#comment-46627</link>
		<dc:creator>phoebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afterr eading this article, i am very interested about this place in SL....  would one of the Mistress above contact girl at

slavephoebe at gmail dot com
please?

thank you.

phoebe
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afterr eading this article, i am very interested about this place in SL&#8230;.  would one of the Mistress above contact girl at</p>
<p>slavephoebe at gmail dot com<br />
please?</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
<p>phoebe</p>
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		<title>By: Winter Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winter Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*whispers an important word......&quot;roleplaying&quot;.
To each his own, we all pay our 10 tarsk bits to play this game. Whether as a one time fee or a monthly rate. And this entitles us to go shopping, dancing or hunting and enslaving panthergirls in the forests. To the casual observer, the Gorean scenerio can be labled as cut and dried control freak BDSM.  This assumption is brought about by the things the casual observer first picks off visiting one of the Gor cities in SL.  Slaves in cages, leashed, kneeling all over the place. public whippings, brandings, and god forbid even an execution.  Are these elements of the Gorean scenerio as portrayed in the books on which they are based?  Sure.  Are these the only elements that many players seem to care about, yes again.  I guess some are amused by the concept of branding.  Ive seen crowds watch a branding in SL.  Why?  Havent got a clue.  Its a dog and pony show I guess. ( psst, I do my brandings in private.  My guests dont like the smell of sizzling flesh;) Its these types, entertained by the discipline, the spectacle of punishment or pain, that give those who play the scenerio the title of &#039; THE TREKKIES OF BDSM&quot;.  Theres other levels beneath the obvious exterior.  Delve beneath the Disney Gor aspect and find things like codes of Honor and chivalry.  Watch the poetic beauty of a well trained kajira go through the recitation of a dance.  Theres immersive roleplaying to be had if one learns enough of it to play it well.  Its escapistic fare on a grand scale.  Not everyones cup of blackwine, but for some... theres entertainment to be had.  I wish you most well ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*whispers an important word&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;roleplaying&#8221;.<br />
To each his own, we all pay our 10 tarsk bits to play this game. Whether as a one time fee or a monthly rate. And this entitles us to go shopping, dancing or hunting and enslaving panthergirls in the forests. To the casual observer, the Gorean scenerio can be labled as cut and dried control freak BDSM.  This assumption is brought about by the things the casual observer first picks off visiting one of the Gor cities in SL.  Slaves in cages, leashed, kneeling all over the place. public whippings, brandings, and god forbid even an execution.  Are these elements of the Gorean scenerio as portrayed in the books on which they are based?  Sure.  Are these the only elements that many players seem to care about, yes again.  I guess some are amused by the concept of branding.  Ive seen crowds watch a branding in SL.  Why?  Havent got a clue.  Its a dog and pony show I guess. ( psst, I do my brandings in private.  My guests dont like the smell of sizzling flesh;) Its these types, entertained by the discipline, the spectacle of punishment or pain, that give those who play the scenerio the title of &#8216; THE TREKKIES OF BDSM&#8221;.  Theres other levels beneath the obvious exterior.  Delve beneath the Disney Gor aspect and find things like codes of Honor and chivalry.  Watch the poetic beauty of a well trained kajira go through the recitation of a dance.  Theres immersive roleplaying to be had if one learns enough of it to play it well.  Its escapistic fare on a grand scale.  Not everyones cup of blackwine, but for some&#8230; theres entertainment to be had.  I wish you most well <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now i know why I heard about the Gorian lifestyle for the 1st time from a retarded person, had never heard of it before ...........seems clear now......lets bring the species back 10,000 years shall we?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now i know why I heard about the Gorian lifestyle for the 1st time from a retarded person, had never heard of it before &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..seems clear now&#8230;&#8230;lets bring the species back 10,000 years shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Vivienne Daguerre, Scribe of Port Kar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivienne Daguerre, Scribe of Port Kar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>montserrat, I am not really reacting at all to you. I find myself emotionless when it comes to this matter. I just don&#039;t think you should be surprised that I hesitate to recommend you as a citizen for the city of Ar after your reporting on Kar... undercover among us, a slanted view showing a misunderstanding of your topic, going for the sensational, and not even having the courage to put your name to the article. You betrayed all who lived in Port Kar.

Now why would I recommend you for citizenship in Ar?

I would not. I have no hard feelings against you really. Could not be bothered and have no time for you. That is why I put you on mute.

Sounds to me like you have been told no and don&#039;t like that answer. Too bad. And I have no time to argue with you and I won&#039;t. As I said before, action and consequence. That is not just Gor, that is life. Now learn something from it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>montserrat, I am not really reacting at all to you. I find myself emotionless when it comes to this matter. I just don&#8217;t think you should be surprised that I hesitate to recommend you as a citizen for the city of Ar after your reporting on Kar&#8230; undercover among us, a slanted view showing a misunderstanding of your topic, going for the sensational, and not even having the courage to put your name to the article. You betrayed all who lived in Port Kar.</p>
<p>Now why would I recommend you for citizenship in Ar?</p>
<p>I would not. I have no hard feelings against you really. Could not be bothered and have no time for you. That is why I put you on mute.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like you have been told no and don&#8217;t like that answer. Too bad. And I have no time to argue with you and I won&#8217;t. As I said before, action and consequence. That is not just Gor, that is life. Now learn something from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Grendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to understand this article, as the author still walks around SL as a Gorean slave with the title Kajira (though unowned) in overhead and has recently begged a Gorean Master for his collar.

Apparently she liked Gor in SL enough to keep herself a slave to this very day and attempt to remain Gorean.  So, I fail to see why she blasphemized Gor in SL with this article, muchless failed to place her name on the article.  It makes no sense, unless she feared the backlash of her own hypocrisy..

I am not one who believes Gor can be applied to daily life as many claim they do.  D/s maybe, Gor no.  But I do play in Gor in SL and I will say this - No one has laid a hand on my slave in a sexual manner though they remark on her beauty.  She has been white silk since joining, and is still a virgin.  There are those in it for the pleasure, but can that not be said for all venues of SL? :)  Some of us just appreciate the escape from our daily lives and personnas and enjoy a little role play. :p

If any are discouraged from seeing what Gor is about after reading this article, realize that the hypocrisy featured here is obviously not the author&#039;s true perception nor how things truly are.  There are a number of people in the Gorean cities willing to offer tours and be helpful in showing you what Gor is really about. :) I am one. If you see a little half Japanese slave girl named Grendel sitting in Ar, feel free to approach me and I will assist if it is within my power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to understand this article, as the author still walks around SL as a Gorean slave with the title Kajira (though unowned) in overhead and has recently begged a Gorean Master for his collar.</p>
<p>Apparently she liked Gor in SL enough to keep herself a slave to this very day and attempt to remain Gorean.  So, I fail to see why she blasphemized Gor in SL with this article, muchless failed to place her name on the article.  It makes no sense, unless she feared the backlash of her own hypocrisy..</p>
<p>I am not one who believes Gor can be applied to daily life as many claim they do.  D/s maybe, Gor no.  But I do play in Gor in SL and I will say this &#8211; No one has laid a hand on my slave in a sexual manner though they remark on her beauty.  She has been white silk since joining, and is still a virgin.  There are those in it for the pleasure, but can that not be said for all venues of SL? <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Some of us just appreciate the escape from our daily lives and personnas and enjoy a little role play. :p</p>
<p>If any are discouraged from seeing what Gor is about after reading this article, realize that the hypocrisy featured here is obviously not the author&#8217;s true perception nor how things truly are.  There are a number of people in the Gorean cities willing to offer tours and be helpful in showing you what Gor is really about. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am one. If you see a little half Japanese slave girl named Grendel sitting in Ar, feel free to approach me and I will assist if it is within my power.</p>
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		<title>By: montserrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>montserrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok.
i thank you sisterstone for your comments. what you say is true.

now.

i am really fucking tired of this, people. this fuss is ridiculous. so here are the facts:

1) I WROTE THIS DAMNED ARTICLE, GOT IT?  If it displays bias, misinformation, slanted-ness, personal opinion, or flocks of geese migrating to canada, it is my work and no one should be held responsible for the work but ME.  was that hard for you to read, people? please go back and try again, if it was.

2) now i went today to see vivienne, to ask her, since she is being so extreme regarding her in-game reaction to this article, to ask  if she wished to be interviewed so as to present her views and ideas about this article which she finds so horrible.  she refused comment to the herald which of course shows great strength and grace.

please bear in mind that the individual i met, and i will NOT name the individual, roams port kar apparently with port kar&#039;s blessing.  if my perception of gor was incorrect, consider from whom i received it.

again i wish to say that vivienne has refused to be interviewed and will not comment on the record, but has instead chosen the path of personal in-game retaliation.

it seems to me that vivienne would welcome the opportunity to set the record straight, if indeed the record needs straightening.

i would like vivienne, or any other gorean, to explain how RL practices like branding become connected to Gor -- and, if such practices are unacceptable to true goreans, why port kar admits such as practice them.

i take responsibility for what i write.  now let vivienne take responsibility for what she has done, and said.


yrs truly
montserrat
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok.<br />
i thank you sisterstone for your comments. what you say is true.</p>
<p>now.</p>
<p>i am really fucking tired of this, people. this fuss is ridiculous. so here are the facts:</p>
<p>1) I WROTE THIS DAMNED ARTICLE, GOT IT?  If it displays bias, misinformation, slanted-ness, personal opinion, or flocks of geese migrating to canada, it is my work and no one should be held responsible for the work but ME.  was that hard for you to read, people? please go back and try again, if it was.</p>
<p>2) now i went today to see vivienne, to ask her, since she is being so extreme regarding her in-game reaction to this article, to ask  if she wished to be interviewed so as to present her views and ideas about this article which she finds so horrible.  she refused comment to the herald which of course shows great strength and grace.</p>
<p>please bear in mind that the individual i met, and i will NOT name the individual, roams port kar apparently with port kar&#8217;s blessing.  if my perception of gor was incorrect, consider from whom i received it.</p>
<p>again i wish to say that vivienne has refused to be interviewed and will not comment on the record, but has instead chosen the path of personal in-game retaliation.</p>
<p>it seems to me that vivienne would welcome the opportunity to set the record straight, if indeed the record needs straightening.</p>
<p>i would like vivienne, or any other gorean, to explain how RL practices like branding become connected to Gor &#8212; and, if such practices are unacceptable to true goreans, why port kar admits such as practice them.</p>
<p>i take responsibility for what i write.  now let vivienne take responsibility for what she has done, and said.</p>
<p>yrs truly<br />
montserrat</p>
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		<title>By: SisterStone</title>
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		<dc:creator>SisterStone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following publications have all published anonymous articles:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/vncol20.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Economist&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/~ctc/docs/apa_guidelines_fall_2002.doc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Scientist&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rachel.org/library/getfile.cfm?ID=495&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt;, the British &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/01/22/dl2201.xml&amp;sSheet=/opinion/2005/01/22/ixopinion.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daily Telegraph&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ladlass.com/intel/archives/2005_03.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Foreign Affairs&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,4015,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wired News&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigeye.com/godhelpamerica.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Daily Mirror&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/03/22/midlist/index_np.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Salon.com&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following publications have all published anonymous articles:<br />
<a href="http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/vncol20.htm" rel="nofollow">The Economist</a>, <a href="http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/~ctc/docs/apa_guidelines_fall_2002.doc" rel="nofollow">New Scientist</a>, the <a href="http://www.rachel.org/library/getfile.cfm?ID=495" rel="nofollow">New York Times</a>, the British <a href="http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/01/22/dl2201.xml&#038;sSheet=/opinion/2005/01/22/ixopinion.html" rel="nofollow">Daily Telegraph</a>, <a href="http://www.ladlass.com/intel/archives/2005_03.html" rel="nofollow">Foreign Affairs</a>, <a href="http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,4015,00.html" rel="nofollow">Wired News</a>, the <a href="http://www.bigeye.com/godhelpamerica.htm" rel="nofollow">New York Daily Mirror</a> and <a href="http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/03/22/midlist/index_np.html" rel="nofollow">Salon.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Urizenus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urizenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those Herald paparazzi are JUST awful!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those Herald paparazzi are JUST awful!</p>
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		<title>By: Anjaleka Virgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjaleka Virgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this right...  some anonymous goober can come into a roleplaying area, get it TOTALLY skewed, and report it as newsfare, yet I am required to post my name and email so that I can reply to the piece?  Yes yes...I know...  I can always use fake names and emails, but where is the credibility in doing that?  Where is the credibility in the reporter hiding in such a way and WHY is the editor allowing articles to be printed by an anonymous person??  Reputable publications that I am aware of do not allow such practices.

I am not going to address the issue of the content as toy and Mistress Vivienne have done so much more eloquently than I could.  I am, instead, going to address the shoddy skills of the reporter.  As one of two people clearly identified in one of the photo&#039;s, where is the notice I should have received letting me know of it being published?  In addition to that insult to my privacy,  the reader is clearly mislead into believing that photo was taken in some BDSM store type area, when in fact, it was taken in a library that is used for learning and such.

Though the damage is done, I request that the photo be removed or at the very least, my name blurred from it.  I did not give any consent to be identified and as such, my request should be honored.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this right&#8230;  some anonymous goober can come into a roleplaying area, get it TOTALLY skewed, and report it as newsfare, yet I am required to post my name and email so that I can reply to the piece?  Yes yes&#8230;I know&#8230;  I can always use fake names and emails, but where is the credibility in doing that?  Where is the credibility in the reporter hiding in such a way and WHY is the editor allowing articles to be printed by an anonymous person??  Reputable publications that I am aware of do not allow such practices.</p>
<p>I am not going to address the issue of the content as toy and Mistress Vivienne have done so much more eloquently than I could.  I am, instead, going to address the shoddy skills of the reporter.  As one of two people clearly identified in one of the photo&#8217;s, where is the notice I should have received letting me know of it being published?  In addition to that insult to my privacy,  the reader is clearly mislead into believing that photo was taken in some BDSM store type area, when in fact, it was taken in a library that is used for learning and such.</p>
<p>Though the damage is done, I request that the photo be removed or at the very least, my name blurred from it.  I did not give any consent to be identified and as such, my request should be honored.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivienne Daguerre, Scribe of Port Kar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivienne Daguerre, Scribe of Port Kar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 10:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is well written, but a very tabloid style of report, designed to shock and titillate more than to present basic information or an unbiased view of things.

There is a mixture of BDSM and Gor here, and that has not been made clear. The bit about instructions regarding real life and marking of the body is not typical of D/s nor Gor, and the writer has presented it as so, a clear misrepresentation.

Some do choose to take things to real life, but not all nor even most of us do. Many are happy with keeping our second lives separate from our first lives.

The writer would also appear to be a drama queen, calling in a male friend for a gallant rescue. It sounds to me like this was not a traumatic event for her as claimed, but one that she enjoyed very much. We do not have much time nor patience for such nonsense in Port Kar.

You are rescued my dear, so if you come back to Port Kar, it will be a clear indication that you wish the collar and/or more drama, and we will likely not accommodate your wishes.

Vivienne, Scribe of Port Kar
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is well written, but a very tabloid style of report, designed to shock and titillate more than to present basic information or an unbiased view of things.</p>
<p>There is a mixture of BDSM and Gor here, and that has not been made clear. The bit about instructions regarding real life and marking of the body is not typical of D/s nor Gor, and the writer has presented it as so, a clear misrepresentation.</p>
<p>Some do choose to take things to real life, but not all nor even most of us do. Many are happy with keeping our second lives separate from our first lives.</p>
<p>The writer would also appear to be a drama queen, calling in a male friend for a gallant rescue. It sounds to me like this was not a traumatic event for her as claimed, but one that she enjoyed very much. We do not have much time nor patience for such nonsense in Port Kar.</p>
<p>You are rescued my dear, so if you come back to Port Kar, it will be a clear indication that you wish the collar and/or more drama, and we will likely not accommodate your wishes.</p>
<p>Vivienne, Scribe of Port Kar</p>
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