Comments on: Anniversary CelebraFICation Leads to Coco’s Party Protest

By: Urizenus

Urizenus — Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:22:28 +0000

almost a month late, here is a link to a vide that Bebop Vox made at the party.

http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=51397

By: wannabe literate

wannabe literate — Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:05:36 +0000

I’ve been trying to catch up on the Prok banning as it seems ‘all the talk’ recently, and knowing how popular thought works, to see if I could determine how this effects the general flow and direction of things in SL…

I’m astounded this person was banned, really. At issue isn’t whether I agree with Prok’s opinions, but simply making a matryr of anyone gives them more power. If the Lindens’ intention was to diffuse the controversy, you’d think they’d have taken a page from history rather than pop pyschology, one being an unbiased record of cause and effect, and the latter being largely unproven theory based on opinion.

History also teaches us the point and laugh method of dealing with those we disagree with. In other words the greater your outrage at WORDS, the greater and louder and more frequent your reactions, the more credence you give to the person you disagree with, and the more power. If no one had thought enough of Prok’s posts to bother responding in the first place, we’d all be saying “Prok who?”

If Prok annoys you, continues to annoy you, you’ve only yourself to blame.

That having been said, I want to thank those of you who continue to pick at the thorn in your side. Had it not been for you actively assisting in making this minor irritation an unavoidably noticable gaping ‘wound’, I’d have never noticed Prok’s existence, and would never have poked around to see this person’s posts. I really have to admire anyone who can so effectively strike nerves in people and make others feel threatened on some level sufficiently to bother reacting to WORDS…

Kudos, Prok. Keep it up. FORCE them to think.

Oh, and limit your posts… not. Not all of us have the attention spans of mayflies and were not raised on a steady diet of the intellectually insubstantive 30-second news byte.

By: FlipperPA

FlipperPA — Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:48:51 +0000

Next time, I’ll be sure to post an SLBoutique.com billboard instead of an FIC one.

No complaints about Anshe’s advertisements there though? Wow. And I thought it was supposed to be representative of the past two years of SL.

-Flip

By: Prokofy Neva

Prokofy Neva — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:17:34 +0000

Geez, Chip, has it really been so suffocating over on Jeska’s forums these days that you have to come all the way over here just to call me a “dickhead” lol? Why the hell do I bother you so much? You are such a churlish huffy burgher, Chip, you always amaze me how you protect the Motherland and the Flag every time I open my mouth. Could you get over yourself? I don’t at all feel victimized. I feel I’m campaigning and making my points known. I’ve had to take some real heat and some vicious attacks, and it does get pretty unpleasant especially inside the game when people do prim attacks and officer recalls and all that assassine shit but honestly, I hold my ground. What is it that I challenge about you and your little magic circle that you have to come over here like this and be so indignant and outraged all the time?

Once again, you’ve amply illustrated the premise I’ve been making about the forums: I said you were smug burghers protecting the status quo of the content kingdom. You’ve called me a dickhead. Yet I’m the Banned One and the Shunned One and you are sitting pretty on the forums. What is wrong with this picture?

By: Chip Midnight

Chip Midnight — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:33:32 +0000

Life it too short to spend lurking in IRC but apparently not too short to spend all your time playing the “poor victimized me” routine endlessly.
You should write a book on how to have a persecution complex and then be such a complete dickhead to everyone that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you repeat poorly reasoned paranoid conspiracy theory so much that a PARODY of it becomes a cultural meme, what does that tell you? Oh well, back to your pity party.

By: Prokofy Neva

Prokofy Neva — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:02:06 +0000

Curtis, duh, I know it’s an open public chat. That’s not at issue. I can go in there any time, as ProkofyNe or as JoeBlow, although when I go in there, I always use my SL handle because life is just too short to spend lurking in places like that. But it is *used* as a back room or back channel. As I’ve posted elsewhere here, it is an informal chat room in real time where Lindens sort of let down their hair a little and players get access to them. It’s mainly the tekkie types that go in there and talk shop about game programming. It’s a place where people have a comfort level, a shared language, a feeling of group bonding. Anybody can see that. Nobody has “lied” that it is somehow “secret” — I challenge you to come up with any such specious claim — it’s not that. As I’ve noted, it is how it is USED — a feeling that it is outside the game, over the country line, away from the TOS, where anything goes, where you can get away with more and speak more freely, both because you don’t have game distractions and the limitations of SL IMs and because you don’t have Jeska looking over your shoulder.

I think most people arriving there might be kind of intimidating seeing Lindens and FIC talking intense game shop and in-group type of stuff. If they can catch on to the lingo and teh tekkie wiki bullshit stuff, they can chime in and be kewl too. But if they aren’t on that wavelength, they won’t.

Honestly, half the time the trouble with the FIC is that they take things very, very literally and see things in a very narrow construction.

All you have to know about this is that it is not the kind of speech that either Pathfinder or these players would have engaged in, on the forums themselves. They wouldn’t dare. It would be seen as unprofessional, as Lindens, and would be seen as AR’able by Lindens as to players. So that tells you all you need to know. In a more informal atmosphere, they behaved differently .That’s why I called the post that lasted 2 seconds on the forums HOW THEY DO IT.

By: montserrat

montserrat — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:08:41 +0000

curtis surely you understand that we know you are
*supposed* to say that?

By: Curtis

Curtis — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:15:02 +0000

I invite anyone to #secondlife on IRC and join the conversations there. Prokofy claims it is a FIC only hang out. Truth is, it is a public channel and we love when different people drop in.

Prokofy ignores this though, and tries making up lies to make it seem like others are not welcomed. Come and join us and you will see what bullshit Prokofy spews from his mouth.

By: Kalnae Surface

Kalnae Surface — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:31:50 +0000

wow Uri l am watching your commentry on the entire Prok, banning and FIC uprise with open mouthed awe. I have me checking the herald everyday for news. I don’t play the game yet, l am getting ready too. But l have been watching these articles for a while and Prok makes more sense than those that spite him, and since his banning it seems perfectly clear to me that such a FIC in one form or another really does exist. It’s like Prok was murdered at the hands of the FIC, they thinking him out of the picture, step out of the shadows only now to their horror Prok is turning into a martyer. Yea Gods! Okay so that was over-simplified but that is how the situation is looking. Everyone is human and even in avatar form we deserve rights. These issues are important to argue over now so that as VR advances rights are set in place for us all in the future of VR.

Glued to the Screen

Kal

By: Afraidto Bebanned

Afraidto Bebanned — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:13:35 +0000

It’s all about creating an enriching experience. Removing any downward pressure on land prices, LL auctions of smaller parcels of land in this case, will enrich a handful of players tremendously. The reality is that life isn’t fair. LL is doing what it can to mirror reality.

It’s good that people are just discussing this and not doing things like putting content on land throughout Second Life land that causes so much lag that new and existing member transactions decline for a while. That would be like a boycott. That wouldn’t be fair.

Part of this message may have been sarcasm. Sorry.