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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, Hiro, you&#039;d like to think the Metaverse revolves around you and...so often it doesn&#039;t...but keep trying.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, Hiro, you&#8217;d like to think the Metaverse revolves around you and&#8230;so often it doesn&#8217;t&#8230;but keep trying.</p>
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		<title>By: HiroPendragon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46406</link>
		<dc:creator>HiroPendragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m insulted that I wasn&#039;t even mentioned...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m insulted that I wasn&#8217;t even mentioned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46405</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that Uri is falling back on this [elided by Uri] stuff over a very clear-cut case very easily established. Uri, contact me inworld if you are somehow not &quot;getting&quot; this, geez. I do hope Uri will just go and report it some day as a story.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that Uri is falling back on this [elided by Uri] stuff over a very clear-cut case very easily established. Uri, contact me inworld if you are somehow not &#8220;getting&#8221; this, geez. I do hope Uri will just go and report it some day as a story.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker Spaight</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46404</link>
		<dc:creator>Walker Spaight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, soon we&#039;re going to have people inserting their own [elided by Uri]&#039;s into this conversation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, soon we&#8217;re going to have people inserting their own [elided by Uri]&#8216;s into this conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pendari</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46403</link>
		<dc:creator>Pendari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is because SL is not a game that I *do* take much of what you say personally. I&#039;m not thick skinned, never claimed to be. Thankfully with most I don&#039;t have to be. But I will stand my ground any day against a bully like you. I&#039;m just not one to stand by and watch others be hurt and lied about and hammered day in and day out without saying something about it.

And yes, the project was Neualtenburg. It is right there in my signature on the forums and most anyone in the world reading any of this right now would know what project I was refering to. And no, you don&#039;t know what you are talking about when it comes to the project. You never have, and you never will (by your own fault of course).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is because SL is not a game that I *do* take much of what you say personally. I&#8217;m not thick skinned, never claimed to be. Thankfully with most I don&#8217;t have to be. But I will stand my ground any day against a bully like you. I&#8217;m just not one to stand by and watch others be hurt and lied about and hammered day in and day out without saying something about it.</p>
<p>And yes, the project was Neualtenburg. It is right there in my signature on the forums and most anyone in the world reading any of this right now would know what project I was refering to. And no, you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about when it comes to the project. You never have, and you never will (by your own fault of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46402</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pendari, I stand by my critique of the capacities of Cristiano&#039;s site to block people and alt outs. I&#039;ve stepped through this. I know. It&#039;s not just his site, it&#039;s others. It&#039;s deadly. It&#039;s wrong.

Uh, it&#039;s hard to say anything about any fears about &quot;teh Intarnut&quot; when Cristiano&#039;s site has [elided by Uri].   Uri, if you feel the need to &quot;elide&quot; what I just said, could you PLEASE do an investigative reportorial story on this issue and just READ the SLuniverse.com (unless Cristiano has wiped it clean) and report back, please?

You and your &quot;project&quot; -- if it is Neualtenberg -- deserve thorough, ongoing scrutiny and criticism. Not mentioning what project you mean is definitely low-balling, Pendari. Are you afriad to face criticism? I&#039;ve done a great public service by pointing out that the thingie calling itself &quot;democratic&quot; only is more rightfully called &quot;socialist&quot; so people understand truth in advertising.

You, like other, FIC, are thin-skinned Penari. My links are proof that these are not personal attacks, but generic issues. That you chose to so readily identify my generic critiques with your own persona, identifying your literal personhood with the essence of this game, shows me all I need to know about how right I am about my critique of the FIC.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pendari, I stand by my critique of the capacities of Cristiano&#8217;s site to block people and alt outs. I&#8217;ve stepped through this. I know. It&#8217;s not just his site, it&#8217;s others. It&#8217;s deadly. It&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>Uh, it&#8217;s hard to say anything about any fears about &#8220;teh Intarnut&#8221; when Cristiano&#8217;s site has [elided by Uri].   Uri, if you feel the need to &#8220;elide&#8221; what I just said, could you PLEASE do an investigative reportorial story on this issue and just READ the SLuniverse.com (unless Cristiano has wiped it clean) and report back, please?</p>
<p>You and your &#8220;project&#8221; &#8212; if it is Neualtenberg &#8212; deserve thorough, ongoing scrutiny and criticism. Not mentioning what project you mean is definitely low-balling, Pendari. Are you afriad to face criticism? I&#8217;ve done a great public service by pointing out that the thingie calling itself &#8220;democratic&#8221; only is more rightfully called &#8220;socialist&#8221; so people understand truth in advertising.</p>
<p>You, like other, FIC, are thin-skinned Penari. My links are proof that these are not personal attacks, but generic issues. That you chose to so readily identify my generic critiques with your own persona, identifying your literal personhood with the essence of this game, shows me all I need to know about how right I am about my critique of the FIC.</p>
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		<title>By: Pendari</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46401</link>
		<dc:creator>Pendari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. You made false accusations about Cristiano&#039;s website and his practices based on your own fears. Others have done very well at pointing out where you were wrong, and even though *you* fail to see you are wrong, others do. And the fires you started have been mostly laid to rest I think. Thankfully most people can put their dislikes of someone aside and see a logical answer when it is presented. You however stick your fingers in your ears and go la-la-la if the first words in a post don&#039;t begin with &quot;Prokofy is right&quot;.

But, I find it so funny that you would think that situation was the first time I had issues with you. No, my issues started when you began spreading false information about a project that I was majorly involved in. Despite me or anyone answering your questions, you rallied on and on about a topic you had no idea about. Again, others including myself answered questions and thankfully most who read those threads came away knowing the truth. Which was what *we* said, not you. And I saw you do this time and again to other people and SL businesses.

I do read the forums Prok. And I&#039;ve been on the forums a lot longer than you. It is not hard to read the history and see how horribly you treated many many people on the forums. The links you are providing on these herald articles; I am glad you are sharing them. As I read and re-read those threads, it only re-assures me that I am right in my opinion of you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. You made false accusations about Cristiano&#8217;s website and his practices based on your own fears. Others have done very well at pointing out where you were wrong, and even though *you* fail to see you are wrong, others do. And the fires you started have been mostly laid to rest I think. Thankfully most people can put their dislikes of someone aside and see a logical answer when it is presented. You however stick your fingers in your ears and go la-la-la if the first words in a post don&#8217;t begin with &#8220;Prokofy is right&#8221;.</p>
<p>But, I find it so funny that you would think that situation was the first time I had issues with you. No, my issues started when you began spreading false information about a project that I was majorly involved in. Despite me or anyone answering your questions, you rallied on and on about a topic you had no idea about. Again, others including myself answered questions and thankfully most who read those threads came away knowing the truth. Which was what *we* said, not you. And I saw you do this time and again to other people and SL businesses.</p>
<p>I do read the forums Prok. And I&#8217;ve been on the forums a lot longer than you. It is not hard to read the history and see how horribly you treated many many people on the forums. The links you are providing on these herald articles; I am glad you are sharing them. As I read and re-read those threads, it only re-assures me that I am right in my opinion of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pendari, it&#039;s useful for forum readers to really look at the forums
and see whether your false and tendentious characterization of &quot;baiting&quot; and &quot;incitement&quot; is really the case. I assure you it is not.

You got angry because I criticized your precious friend Cristiano&#039;s policies (or lack of policies) on his website. I didn&#039;t criticize him as a person. I didn&#039;t even criticize his wonderful Snapzilla photo posting service. I criticized his capturing of IPs and other information and using it to block people, not for their actual violation of any policy, including his, but because he feels like it, on a whim, because his feelings are hurt, because his policies are attacked. That happened to Uri, too, but fortunately, Uri reversed it within 24 hours. Cristiano stuck with it much longer, and it was only my relentless drum-beat, and only my risking of my own forum privileges by posting with alts to counter what his site was doing to me, that I got him finally to unban me long enough to rebut libelous statements on his site.

There&#039;s such a moral blindness at work here. All of your thin-skinned FICers never seem to grasp what is really wrong -- and horridly wrong -- with outing a person&#039;s RL, and slandering them with the wrong RL. That crime is so much worse than any other offense you must muster about me, as to not eve require debate.

That I am forced endlessly to repeat this, that I have to daily fend off attacks and false claims that I &quot;tell people RL details in world and therefore how can I be such a fucking hypocrite&quot; -- well, it all stands to expose those who engage in this nonsense, if nothing else. WHAT IS NOT ON THE SL PROFILE IN THE GAME IS NOT FAIR GAME FOR THE FORUMS.

Pendari, I&#039;m not singling you out, it&#039;s just that you&#039;re such an exemplary case of the very typical response to me, which was &quot;FUCK YOU PROKOFY YOU ARE A FUCKING WANKER&quot;. That&#039;s NOT how I spoke to people, yet there are numerous examples of you all speaking that way to me, even from such a decorous forum &quot;saint&quot; as Pendari, Mentor Extraordinaire. I&#039;m not an awful person, Pendary, and it&#039;s not personal. But go back to the Pahoa Jade thread. Sight unseen, without examining the dispute or the arguments, you rallied behind someone *merely because she was your friend*. You were blind to any faults or legitimate criticisms. That about sums it up with the FIC. If you only reported 2 of my posts in your forums history, that was 2 too many. You reported them not for actual TOS violation, but merely because you didn&#039;t like the harsh critique I leveled at a group that you consider your bastion of friendship. Indeed, the pudgy-fingered little fanboyz and girlz on the forums rest their fingers on the AR and keep it alight constantly. You&#039;re wrong there.

Let me take this opportunity to rebut a vicious false claim I&#039;ve seen purpetrated by Nolan Nash. He claims I tell tenants that Weedy Herbst&#039;s radios &quot;cannot be deeded to Ravenglass Rentals land&quot;.

This is utter tripe. In fact, when tenants ask me for radios, I mention Weedy&#039;s radios in the lists of those that CAN be deeded -- because they are in fact deedable. And this tenant who posted this original thread, would be the first to tell you this, because it is Weedy&#039;s radio that is deeded and functioning in his home, duh. Honestly, Nolan, do you really think people can&#039;t check FACTS?

Tenants often get confused about the deeding issue, it is confusing, and I have an elaborate card on the details which I hand out, and I tell them to get in touch with radio makers like Jeri Zuma or Weedy Herbst to clarify any permissions/transfer issues. That&#039;s all. There&#039;s absolutely no boycott or untruths spoken here due to forum wars. Shame on you for this post, Nolan.
http://forums.secondlife.com/showpost.php?p=535111&amp;postcount=4
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pendari, it&#8217;s useful for forum readers to really look at the forums<br />
and see whether your false and tendentious characterization of &#8220;baiting&#8221; and &#8220;incitement&#8221; is really the case. I assure you it is not.</p>
<p>You got angry because I criticized your precious friend Cristiano&#8217;s policies (or lack of policies) on his website. I didn&#8217;t criticize him as a person. I didn&#8217;t even criticize his wonderful Snapzilla photo posting service. I criticized his capturing of IPs and other information and using it to block people, not for their actual violation of any policy, including his, but because he feels like it, on a whim, because his feelings are hurt, because his policies are attacked. That happened to Uri, too, but fortunately, Uri reversed it within 24 hours. Cristiano stuck with it much longer, and it was only my relentless drum-beat, and only my risking of my own forum privileges by posting with alts to counter what his site was doing to me, that I got him finally to unban me long enough to rebut libelous statements on his site.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s such a moral blindness at work here. All of your thin-skinned FICers never seem to grasp what is really wrong &#8212; and horridly wrong &#8212; with outing a person&#8217;s RL, and slandering them with the wrong RL. That crime is so much worse than any other offense you must muster about me, as to not eve require debate.</p>
<p>That I am forced endlessly to repeat this, that I have to daily fend off attacks and false claims that I &#8220;tell people RL details in world and therefore how can I be such a fucking hypocrite&#8221; &#8212; well, it all stands to expose those who engage in this nonsense, if nothing else. WHAT IS NOT ON THE SL PROFILE IN THE GAME IS NOT FAIR GAME FOR THE FORUMS.</p>
<p>Pendari, I&#8217;m not singling you out, it&#8217;s just that you&#8217;re such an exemplary case of the very typical response to me, which was &#8220;FUCK YOU PROKOFY YOU ARE A FUCKING WANKER&#8221;. That&#8217;s NOT how I spoke to people, yet there are numerous examples of you all speaking that way to me, even from such a decorous forum &#8220;saint&#8221; as Pendari, Mentor Extraordinaire. I&#8217;m not an awful person, Pendary, and it&#8217;s not personal. But go back to the Pahoa Jade thread. Sight unseen, without examining the dispute or the arguments, you rallied behind someone *merely because she was your friend*. You were blind to any faults or legitimate criticisms. That about sums it up with the FIC. If you only reported 2 of my posts in your forums history, that was 2 too many. You reported them not for actual TOS violation, but merely because you didn&#8217;t like the harsh critique I leveled at a group that you consider your bastion of friendship. Indeed, the pudgy-fingered little fanboyz and girlz on the forums rest their fingers on the AR and keep it alight constantly. You&#8217;re wrong there.</p>
<p>Let me take this opportunity to rebut a vicious false claim I&#8217;ve seen purpetrated by Nolan Nash. He claims I tell tenants that Weedy Herbst&#8217;s radios &#8220;cannot be deeded to Ravenglass Rentals land&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is utter tripe. In fact, when tenants ask me for radios, I mention Weedy&#8217;s radios in the lists of those that CAN be deeded &#8212; because they are in fact deedable. And this tenant who posted this original thread, would be the first to tell you this, because it is Weedy&#8217;s radio that is deeded and functioning in his home, duh. Honestly, Nolan, do you really think people can&#8217;t check FACTS?</p>
<p>Tenants often get confused about the deeding issue, it is confusing, and I have an elaborate card on the details which I hand out, and I tell them to get in touch with radio makers like Jeri Zuma or Weedy Herbst to clarify any permissions/transfer issues. That&#8217;s all. There&#8217;s absolutely no boycott or untruths spoken here due to forum wars. Shame on you for this post, Nolan.<br />
<a href="http://forums.secondlife.com/showpost.php?p=535111&#038;postcount=4" rel="nofollow">http://forums.secondlife.com/showpost.php?p=535111&#038;postcount=4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pendari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pendari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. And for the record, I only ever reported 2 of your posts in the history of you being on the forums. Other than that, I&#039;ve used the report post function on 2 other posts. So four times in almost 2 years. Not everyone uses the report post feature as quickly as you seem to claim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. And for the record, I only ever reported 2 of your posts in the history of you being on the forums. Other than that, I&#8217;ve used the report post function on 2 other posts. So four times in almost 2 years. Not everyone uses the report post feature as quickly as you seem to claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Pendari</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/06/prokfic_wars_le.html/comment-page-1#comment-46398</link>
		<dc:creator>Pendari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pfft! I cursed at you that one time Prok. And it was because you baited, and angered me to the point where I lost my temper and cursed at you. I actually apologized for my uncharacteristic behavior. Not because I didn&#039;t feel it was true, but only because it did not belong on the forums.

Personally, I *am* glad you are gone from the forums. I *do* think you are an awful person, and I *do* think you anger people on purpose. And I think you infected the forums with your horrid nature and it really hurt a lot of people that did not deserve to be hurt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pfft! I cursed at you that one time Prok. And it was because you baited, and angered me to the point where I lost my temper and cursed at you. I actually apologized for my uncharacteristic behavior. Not because I didn&#8217;t feel it was true, but only because it did not belong on the forums.</p>
<p>Personally, I *am* glad you are gone from the forums. I *do* think you are an awful person, and I *do* think you anger people on purpose. And I think you infected the forums with your horrid nature and it really hurt a lot of people that did not deserve to be hurt.</p>
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