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	<title>Comments on: Censoring &#8220;Negativity&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Chip Midnight</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46116</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Midnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uri wrote: &quot;Is it the intention of you and your FIC buddies to come here and try and disrupt the Herald? I only ask because we were having an interesting conversation until you and Chip showed up and started spamming the thread with your insults and hatred.&quot;

Uri, take a look at how many times I&#039;ve posted to the Herald. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s under a dozen in total. I&#039;d hardly call that a campaign of disruption, but all it takes is an FIC label and suddenly I&#039;m a mob! I&#039;m a cabal! It&#039;s a conspiracy I tell ya!

I have nothing against you Uri, but I can&#039;t help but notice that the Herald seems to be conspiracy theory central these days. Everything has this paranoid &quot;the uber players are out to get us&quot; vibe. I&#039;ve never met you... never spoken to you in person... never traded words with you until today, but I&#039;m part of the IRC FIC &quot;gang of thugs&quot;? You&#039;ve been listening to Prok  too much and you&#039;re leaking credibility like a sieve.

There is so much cool stuff in SL... so much amazing creativity to revel in and enjoy... and yet day after day you cover all this &quot;OMG We&#039;re All Doomed!(tm)&quot; and &quot;Someone&#039;s Doing Stuff We Don&#039;t Like. Oh noes!&quot; and &quot;Prokofy Neva Was Framed(tm)&quot; stuff. Seriously, if you&#039;re not being completely manipulated by a few people feeding you all this paranoid nonsense, then what gives?

The FIC doesn&#039;t exist. It never did. It lives on only as a parody of Prok&#039;s paranoid verbosity. You write about it like there&#039;s actually this organized group of people out to trample the little guy underfoot. You do realize that&#039;s utter bullshit, right?

Let&#039;s take a look at the headlines on the front page right now shall we?

&quot;Prok/FIC Wars Lead to New Forum Policies&quot;
&quot;FICtory Dance&quot;
&quot;Editorial: Sympathy for Prokofy Neva&quot;
&quot;Anniversary CelebraFICation Leads to Coco’s Party Protest&quot;
&quot;“All on the Same Page”: IRC Chat Logs Support Linden/FIC
Conspiracy vs Prok&quot;
&quot;Censoring “Negativity”&quot;
&quot;Cory Disavows FIC, then throws it $17K in Business&quot;

I suppose anyone who&#039;d dare comment that the above list is embarassing and a disservice to your readers must be an &quot;FIC thug.&quot; *rolls eyes*
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri wrote: &#8220;Is it the intention of you and your FIC buddies to come here and try and disrupt the Herald? I only ask because we were having an interesting conversation until you and Chip showed up and started spamming the thread with your insults and hatred.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uri, take a look at how many times I&#8217;ve posted to the Herald. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s under a dozen in total. I&#8217;d hardly call that a campaign of disruption, but all it takes is an FIC label and suddenly I&#8217;m a mob! I&#8217;m a cabal! It&#8217;s a conspiracy I tell ya!</p>
<p>I have nothing against you Uri, but I can&#8217;t help but notice that the Herald seems to be conspiracy theory central these days. Everything has this paranoid &#8220;the uber players are out to get us&#8221; vibe. I&#8217;ve never met you&#8230; never spoken to you in person&#8230; never traded words with you until today, but I&#8217;m part of the IRC FIC &#8220;gang of thugs&#8221;? You&#8217;ve been listening to Prok  too much and you&#8217;re leaking credibility like a sieve.</p>
<p>There is so much cool stuff in SL&#8230; so much amazing creativity to revel in and enjoy&#8230; and yet day after day you cover all this &#8220;OMG We&#8217;re All Doomed!(tm)&#8221; and &#8220;Someone&#8217;s Doing Stuff We Don&#8217;t Like. Oh noes!&#8221; and &#8220;Prokofy Neva Was Framed(tm)&#8221; stuff. Seriously, if you&#8217;re not being completely manipulated by a few people feeding you all this paranoid nonsense, then what gives?</p>
<p>The FIC doesn&#8217;t exist. It never did. It lives on only as a parody of Prok&#8217;s paranoid verbosity. You write about it like there&#8217;s actually this organized group of people out to trample the little guy underfoot. You do realize that&#8217;s utter bullshit, right?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at the headlines on the front page right now shall we?</p>
<p>&#8220;Prok/FIC Wars Lead to New Forum Policies&#8221;<br />
&#8220;FICtory Dance&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Editorial: Sympathy for Prokofy Neva&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Anniversary CelebraFICation Leads to Coco’s Party Protest&#8221;<br />
&#8220;“All on the Same Page”: IRC Chat Logs Support Linden/FIC<br />
Conspiracy vs Prok&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Censoring “Negativity”&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Cory Disavows FIC, then throws it $17K in Business&#8221;</p>
<p>I suppose anyone who&#8217;d dare comment that the above list is embarassing and a disservice to your readers must be an &#8220;FIC thug.&#8221; *rolls eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: seldon metropolitan</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46115</link>
		<dc:creator>seldon metropolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nowhere did I mention professional, only veteran, which implies exclusively experience, not some paid name brought in to rally a cause.  Who cares what they are, anyways.  Your point was that our elders would be ashamed of us.  I can say with certainty that mine are proud of me.

as far personal info, I mentioned it for two reasons.

1) you obviously went through my public profile for &quot;ammunition&quot;

2)you discussed people acting differently because of assumed personas.

To do these things without disclosing even your in-game name seems more than a little hypocritical, regrdless of your reasons.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nowhere did I mention professional, only veteran, which implies exclusively experience, not some paid name brought in to rally a cause.  Who cares what they are, anyways.  Your point was that our elders would be ashamed of us.  I can say with certainty that mine are proud of me.</p>
<p>as far personal info, I mentioned it for two reasons.</p>
<p>1) you obviously went through my public profile for &#8220;ammunition&#8221;</p>
<p>2)you discussed people acting differently because of assumed personas.</p>
<p>To do these things without disclosing even your in-game name seems more than a little hypocritical, regrdless of your reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee Weber</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46114</link>
		<dc:creator>Aimee Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry! My bad!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry! My bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Walker Spaight</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46113</link>
		<dc:creator>Walker Spaight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Aimee, we welcome reader comments, but we do respectfully request that they at least stay somewhere near the topic of the article they&#039;re associated with. Wouldn&#039;t you be better off posting that last comment on Prok&#039;s blog?

Not that we&#039;re going to ban you or anything   ; -)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Aimee, we welcome reader comments, but we do respectfully request that they at least stay somewhere near the topic of the article they&#8217;re associated with. Wouldn&#8217;t you be better off posting that last comment on Prok&#8217;s blog?</p>
<p>Not that we&#8217;re going to ban you or anything   ; -)</p>
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		<title>By: nerferder</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46112</link>
		<dc:creator>nerferder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! It&#039;s a mob mentality! I R GANGED UP ON!

Poor me!

Tony, thats right, don&#039;t address any of the points I made, just be your dismissive self.

Seldon, why are you so concerned about my personal info? Why are all of you?

And seldon, professional protesters usually protest to bring attention to themselves and for bragging rights, not the actual causes. The modern equivalent is paid activists.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! It&#8217;s a mob mentality! I R GANGED UP ON!</p>
<p>Poor me!</p>
<p>Tony, thats right, don&#8217;t address any of the points I made, just be your dismissive self.</p>
<p>Seldon, why are you so concerned about my personal info? Why are all of you?</p>
<p>And seldon, professional protesters usually protest to bring attention to themselves and for bragging rights, not the actual causes. The modern equivalent is paid activists.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker Spaight</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46111</link>
		<dc:creator>Walker Spaight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aimee! Welcome back to the fray! It&#039;s gotten pretty weird in your absence, hasn&#039;t it? Crack that FIC whip a bit, wouldja?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aimee! Welcome back to the fray! It&#8217;s gotten pretty weird in your absence, hasn&#8217;t it? Crack that FIC whip a bit, wouldja?</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee Weber</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-2#comment-46110</link>
		<dc:creator>Aimee Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks pendari &lt;3

:O Good lord Prok!! Seriously your fixation on me can&#039;t be healthy. While so many of your critics have been BY FAR more vocal, direct, vicious, and prolific in posting than I have, you still have ME as public enemy #1. Your readers are going to think you are playing favorites you know.

But if I am to play such a prominent on your blog you should send me a quick e-mail and I can send you a press kit with promotional photos. I would also love to pass along free promotional items such as the I &lt;3 Aimee T-Shirt (in Lime Green) and the Aimee Bear.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks pendari &lt;3</p>
<p>:O Good lord Prok!! Seriously your fixation on me can&#8217;t be healthy. While so many of your critics have been BY FAR more vocal, direct, vicious, and prolific in posting than I have, you still have ME as public enemy #1. Your readers are going to think you are playing favorites you know.</p>
<p>But if I am to play such a prominent on your blog you should send me a quick e-mail and I can send you a press kit with promotional photos. I would also love to pass along free promotional items such as the I &lt;3 Aimee T-Shirt (in Lime Green) and the Aimee Bear.</p>
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		<title>By: Pendari</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-1#comment-46109</link>
		<dc:creator>Pendari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe.. That&#039;s ok Aimee, Prok makes up for it on his own blog. http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/  =p
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe.. That&#8217;s ok Aimee, Prok makes up for it on his own blog. <a href="http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/</a>  =p</p>
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		<title>By: seldon metropolitan</title>
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		<dc:creator>seldon metropolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my newbieness is qualified simply by the fact that almost a year ago, I registered a trial account on SL, played around for about a month, got distracted by RL things, and stopped playing.  I use a different email now, have different credit card info, and just decided it&#039;d be easier to start new than reactivate my account.

So sure, I dont have much to my credentials. Im dedicated to working hard at my chosen job in SL, and I agree with the ideals of this publication.  thats enough for me.

now to respond to the rest of your drivel

&gt;Veteran protesters are whiners. It cheapens actual, well reasoned protests.

What?  I don&#039;t know what generalizations you&#039;re making about &quot;veteran protestors,&quot; but it&#039;s ridiculous to make that kind of blanket statement.

&gt;I am pointing out that I think that some past generations would choke if they heard about it. Think about it. Screaming for free speech in an online environment owned by a private company, is basically akin to me putting forth the same claim at work, on property not owned by me, where I am subject to their rules. I have entered a contract with them which restricts my activities. Where is all the hand wringing over that?

The point that everyone invloved with this discussion but you understands, is that LL presents this world as a metaverse, a place for development of a community that they describe, in the name, as a &quot;Second Life.&quot;  As such, the rights of the users should more closely mirror a government (within which there are still rules that you are subject to) than a corporation.

&gt;they say and do things they WOULD NEVER DO IN RL because of their relative anonimity online. The irony is, in RL they HAVE FREE SPEECH!

I live in Ohio.  we dont have free speech, havent you heard?
as far as anonimity, I have no problem giving out anything about myself, unlike some people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my newbieness is qualified simply by the fact that almost a year ago, I registered a trial account on SL, played around for about a month, got distracted by RL things, and stopped playing.  I use a different email now, have different credit card info, and just decided it&#8217;d be easier to start new than reactivate my account.</p>
<p>So sure, I dont have much to my credentials. Im dedicated to working hard at my chosen job in SL, and I agree with the ideals of this publication.  thats enough for me.</p>
<p>now to respond to the rest of your drivel</p>
<p>>Veteran protesters are whiners. It cheapens actual, well reasoned protests.</p>
<p>What?  I don&#8217;t know what generalizations you&#8217;re making about &#8220;veteran protestors,&#8221; but it&#8217;s ridiculous to make that kind of blanket statement.</p>
<p>>I am pointing out that I think that some past generations would choke if they heard about it. Think about it. Screaming for free speech in an online environment owned by a private company, is basically akin to me putting forth the same claim at work, on property not owned by me, where I am subject to their rules. I have entered a contract with them which restricts my activities. Where is all the hand wringing over that?</p>
<p>The point that everyone invloved with this discussion but you understands, is that LL presents this world as a metaverse, a place for development of a community that they describe, in the name, as a &#8220;Second Life.&#8221;  As such, the rights of the users should more closely mirror a government (within which there are still rules that you are subject to) than a corporation.</p>
<p>>they say and do things they WOULD NEVER DO IN RL because of their relative anonimity online. The irony is, in RL they HAVE FREE SPEECH!</p>
<p>I live in Ohio.  we dont have free speech, havent you heard?<br />
as far as anonimity, I have no problem giving out anything about myself, unlike some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Walsh</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/07/censoring_negat.html/comment-page-1#comment-46107</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rebutt the nerferder, but it is already doing a stellar job of intellectual suicide.  Carry on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rebutt the nerferder, but it is already doing a stellar job of intellectual suicide.  Carry on.</p>
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