In SL, this Old Europe cultural norm is also burnished with the bid for reputational enhancement which forms the core of the grand SL game. People giving away free stuff may be willing to forego the cash for it, but then they want credit in the form of gratitude or posratings literally on their profiles or the invisible posrating of respect in the community. Sorry, but I don’t feel required to give that, and to help you play that game. Just because you spent time putting something in a package doesn’t give you the right to control what happens to it after it leaves your hands.

Joe Public’s example merely proves my point. This girl gave away something free, but expected a posrate. That’s often the way. And it’s often the case that the stuff people give away for free is junk. It’s not valued. That’s what makes it doubly humorous that people giving away stuff get so angry about what you decide to do with it (throw it away or resell it) — it’s not worth much, so what’s the big deal?

I refuse to be bullied by those wielding Old Europe cultural norms. This is America, as they say. You cannot *force* me to do a certain thing with your item *you gave away for free*. You can try — through social opprobrium, through blasting on the forums. But it is not unlawful and not against the TOS. To sic Lindens on someone and get those Lindens even to unlawfully force an item put out on property back into inventory is a serious offense.

>>More, why can’t I take the freebies or $1 and RESELL THEM FOR WHATEVER PRICE I CAN GET????

Sure you can…but if you have ask this sort of Q then no doubt you are a fucking retard…and saying that is an insult to the real mentally challenged in our societies.

That is on a par with the moron who gave me some useless box of free crap vehicles (it was even named that I recall and they were crap in fact) without introducing herself to me, and then asked me to rate her positively because she had just demonstrated was a nice person and deserved to be postively rated because she was nice person because she gave people things without asking etc etc etc blah blah blah…and by the way if you rate me positively I can get more stipend.

Maybe she was your sister prok? or your brother? or another secret officer of the metaverse morons club? Honestly,now, what drugs are you on?

Not Yours, Not Friendly, Still YadNi =(

So you are best free yardsale place? Then be best free yardsale place and stop kvetching about what others do with it after it leaves your hand. I’ve spent hours picking through inventory too and putting out and paying money trees and putting out houses that rent for pennies or whatever — who hasn’t? This is the nature of SL, if you decide to work it.

Don’t ask for credit after doing that hours of selfless work, though, and don’t ask for people to abide by some clutchy rules of yours after you give away. If you gave it away for free, you gave it away. Then LET IT GO. If someone resells it, too bad. If you can kvetch and bitch about your hours of work and your thousands of items being dropped into prims, then that means you are expecting to be paid. Then get paid, and charge more. I really cannot listen to these excuses and this fake altruistic crap, sorry, it doesn’t fly. Get paid. Charge more. Make it worthwhile. People will pay $25 — newbies can pay something, I’ve always found. Honestly, I really don’t get it. These are cultural and philosophical differences, very ardently held. But I will fight for my beliefs too. You dont’ get to reach out into my yard, and tell me what I do with what has now become my possession. I don’t have to go cringing and bowing and scraping everywhere forever and anon with that free thing, never unpackaging it and never reselling it even for just that same $1. NFW. This is the free world, get used to it. If you want to offer this service, offer it, and don’t expect to get credit, and don’t expect people to worship your free articles forever in their inventories.

I will say I have great memories of coming into the game at 4 in the morning and finding you building in Bedford, and hanging with you when you took one of your “breaks”. I also really enjoyed the simcast meetings when the entire design team was assembled. That was a freaking impressive group.

I also remember clearly the day you demonstrated your skills for Prong and the day you started terraforming him. Prong was in ventrilo, so i could hear how excited he was. He could barely contain himself he was so impressed. I thought he was going to blow his load on the keyboard.

FOREWORD: Pardon my English if it is sometimes bad, i am a French guy, Thanks in Advance.

—-I am always interrested to read comments from people who did nothing in a given project.

*JUMP TO THE PAST*
—-In Dark Life, i was then setting a store of weapons and armors of mine. That day, a yound enthusiast guy named Ian approached me and stood there in awe of my work before to ask me if i could be interrested in a much bigger project. Being creative and eager to build things, i was indeed interrested. And that day, the young Ian teleported me to simcast to introduce me to Prong.
—-For about an hour i showed my stuff to them and prong was groing more and more impressed by my work and offered me to build Simcast for him. The deal was simple, i would build a first city in his own sim with an “Evil” theme, and all i would build for SimCast would FOREVER stay EXCLUSIVE to SimCast and i would be payed a percentage of the Benefits when the game would open ot public.
—-And when i would be done with SimCast sim with it s “Evil” Theme, if Urizenus wanted me to, i would rebuild Bedford from flat with a city of the “Good” side. And if once again my work was good, i could also be given Midgard with a “Neutral” theme by Mystic.
—-And that same day, i began to terraform SimCast from Flat. The only rule was Quality, it was Prong s Master word and i began to build, encouraged by an evermore enthusiastic Prong at the sight of my work who eventually came to call me “His Monster Builder”. And i was glad and proud of my work that looked like nothing ever built in Second Life before.
—-One day, Prong showed me armor sets built by Grim, who was a fantastic Scriptor, and who had made also two wonderful temples i would use later in Midgard as a base for the “Neutral” theme, but his Medieval Weaponry wasnt too impressive. And i had this young SecondLifer guy called Gurgon as an “Apprentice” at that time, and i was confident in his Talents so i asked him to design one or two sets to show to Prong. So did he, and we went to see the Boss with those armors and weapons he had done, and as their quallity was much greater, he got the Smith job and Grim could now completely focus on the complex Game System Scripting and do the excellent work he was the best at.
—-Soon after that, it became obvious we would also need Quality Medieval Clothing and once again, i knew the perfect person for that, Osprey. She came show her stuff, and she got the Clothier job. She joined the team and worked well, but after a short while felt some “pressure” and chose to leave. Prong tried to keep her but she didnt want to. But seeing her and her wonderful work go away, i ran after her to try and save the situation and she came back with a renewed energy to “sew” pixels.
—-We would also need good sounds, for weapons, doors, spells, taverns and such and of course, Quality was still the Master Word, and once again i knew the right person who could just do that, Claire, who is sound engineer, and she got the Sound job.
—-But how good looks a sword hit if it has not the good Animation, we needed an Animator of Quality for that, and again, i had a dear Friend, full of crazy genius, able to fold Poser to her will named Ferran who of course got the Animator job.
—-And now surrounded by the best designers in each field of SL, Prong and i knew SimCast would be the First Wonder of Second Life.
—-And i was given total freedom of building, for all, i was the Visual Style Lead Designer and we all spend hundreds of RL hours building or creating for SimCast while Grim was each day improving the Game System always alone, sometimes a bit overwhelmed, but courageous as we all were. All Prong had to do was to be a good Boss, and he did that well, gathering all our productions, organising Meetings and keeping us heads up when needed. I finally came to stay literally screwed at my computer building and spitting prims like a mad machine for more than two months, spending around 600 hours to build THREE SIMS from Flat, Gurgon did the same with Weapons and Armors and did hundreds of them, Osprey created Dozens of Outfits for Males and Females, Good and Evil, Claire recorded Hundreds of Sounds all pure Medieval, and Ferran created Dozens of Animations for each and every Game Movement a Player could do. It is only very late in the process that Mystic came to help Grim with the Scripting that was already very Advanced.

—-And the Elf clan pointed it s nose one day, and from then, all went wrong. Mystic left the project, closing his sim and blocking the map. He then resold it WITH THE BUILDINGS to Anshe, and i had to go personally delete them under her eyes. What was for SimCast was for SimCast ONLY, ONE WORD. But even with the two Sims of SimCast and bedford left, the Game never really opened to public, and each person involved in the project felt betrayed one way or another, and it was over.

—-I feel sorry for the Four Fantastic Designers i brought to that project, we all had great hopes for that place but it went just nowhere. SimCast will never be walked again but in my mind and a few other people s who created it BY HAND, Click by Click, with a passion that only few are able to ever feel, or have.

—-AND NOW A WORD SPECIALLY DEDICATED TO PROKOFY—-
One last word about the Junkyard: When i do a box of, say, 327 Clothes and sell it for a symbolic $L, do you think it really covers the expense of the needed land to support the prims?
Do you think it covers the donations i personally do to my own Money Tree for the Newbiests to buy my own boxes for nothing?
Do you think it covers all the RL time spent sorting around 4000 references to make sure i never drop twice the same thing in two different releases, listing all by hand, with a good old school pencil and a notebook?

—-Now i will go back to why i play SL, not ranting on people, no no, just spitting prims, helping Newbs to discover all the multiple possibilities of my favorite game ever, and encourage new talents to create, and see guys like Gurgon get better than their master with a Happy Smile on my face.
—-No one will discourage me with bullshit, because i Love what i do, bad luck for the ones who dont seem to love much. OH and YES i am a PROUD person, Proud of what i Love and of what it makes me Do, i am called by some “Icon”, “Master”, “Maniac”, “Crazy Fucker”, “Monster Builder”, “Rad”, “Love”, “Friend” and more, and that makes me Happy, and Proud !!!

—-LE CHEF VOUS SALUE BIEN !!!

Yours, Friendly, YadNi =)
(if it s not primmy, it s not a YadNi)

PS: This month, YadNi s Junkyard has been awarded by “The Metaverse Messenger” for BEST FREE ITEMS PLACE.

What I especially object to, however, is when someone performing this freebie/$1 service then puts restrictions on these items and tells you that you cannot unpack them or take them out of their folders and give or sell them on your own. What the fuck?! Who the hell is YadNi Monde to do that??? What, he’s the only king of the freebies, and nobody else can offer them in his packages? They are supposed to let them just sit in their inventory for ever, even when no longer needed, and never passed on to newbies UNLESS you put YadNi in the loop, and unless you award him dwell on his lot? Fuck that shit.

More, why can’t I take the freebies or $1 and RESELL THEM FOR WHATEVER PRICE I CAN GET???? This is one of those hysterical FIC issues (a non-issue in RL or even the rest of the Internet) where we are supposed to a) never sell something free, especially Linden free stuff and especially vaunted FIC free stuff and 2) we’re supposed to forever and anon bow down on our knees and be grateful to these finders and redistributors of free stuff as if they are God’s gift to the metaverse. They are just self-aggrandizers looking for reputaton enhancement using the philanthrophy gambit — and you can tell that they’re no Gandhis because of the viciousness and nasty controlling attitude they have about your resale or restribution of their supposedly “selflessly given” item. REAL philanthropists and givers don’t endlessly require public adulation and getting the credit for their services, and they don’t mind if they don’t get dwell.

I began to stumble on the long arm of YadNi Monde here and there when I began to hear of newbies being reproached for unpacking or giving away and selling YadNi’s precious stuff. The worst offense of course is selling what he gave away for free. I had a friend who put out a yard sale. He put out some of the YadNi stuff, as far as I know, it was only still a $1. If it was $5, what of it? It’s not always possible to trace the provenance of every single thing you have in your inventory — I’ve found this numerous times when I have yard sales.

YadNi somehow caught wind of this yard sale and *sicced the Lindens on this friend*. Imagine! What a dick! The Lindens, aiding and abetting this FIC overreach, came on to my friend’s property, told him their standard Lindenese line that “selling freebies isn’t cool” and then *forced the items back into the friend’s inventory using God-mode. I mean, what the fuck indeed!!!!

These kinds of appalling excesses by our “federal government” happen all the time and go unremarked because most people feel horribly intimidated by Lindens swooping down. But honestly, if the market is free, if it is supposed to be a “normal,” why can’t you resell free stuff. If, for example, in RL, I went to all the McDonald’s on Third Avenue and picked up all the free creamers and sugars, and resold them for $1, if I was stupid enough to waste my time on that, and other people wanted to buy my recylced McDonald’s freebies, who could stop me? Who *hasn’t* bought from a yardsale in RL a dingy Hercules plastic toy for $1 which was once a giveaway at Mickey D’s? Haven’t you ever seen the bums on Second Avenue reselling free plastic pop-up address books and other various and sundry crap that they got from bank openings or supermarket giveaways? Who the fuck cares? It’s bottom-feeding to take free stuff and resell it, but some people need to do it, and by God, some people are available to buy the dreck, so LET THEM. This is a vital part of the newbie economy. LEAVE IT ALONE.

If you are truly “performing a service to the community” then once that stuff leaves your property, STFU. We don’t need your long arm to reach on to OUR properties and tell us what to do with our stuff, whether we wish to give it away or sell it for $1 or $100. There is actually nothing in the TOS about resale of free items. It’s consider “in bad taste” and “not cool” but what of it? I’m grateful to the enterprising fellow who sold me a $100 Linden free tent. I couldn’t find the free tent anywhere, but he had it just in time out there for me to buy when I wanted it. That’s what a free market is for.

I keep a set of 3 coloured flamingos on my property in Derwent as a silent protest against this idiocy. They are for sale for $5. These are the freebies in the Linden library in inventory. I label them FREE LINDEN ITEMS WARNING THAT ARE SET FOR SALE!!! So that busy-bodies can’t accuse me of deliberately deceiving newbies. Believe it or not, some people, even oldbies, buy them, just because there they are, coloured and ready to go, without having to work with the damn things in edit and pick out the bits to colour. That’s how a free market works! and THANK GOD for it!

It’s not as if YadNi Monde is hurting for traffic or sales on his lot. So let him not begrudge others the same freedom. The freebie resale market is never going to be large. A lot of the freebies like a set of 50 wings seem highly cool when you are new, but by about day 30 they only lag your inventory. Who among us has actually tried on, worn, and enjoyed all 30 of the wings in the set of free 30 wings? Geez, let it go. Make stuff that’s good and valuable, provide customer service, and charge for it — and people, even “poor newbies” will pay it — without you having to clutch at newbie traffic and $1 bills to get ahead in SL.

In conclusions: making and giving away freebies is a good thing. Putting restrictions on their modification, copying, and resale is a bad thing. And that’s what happens with our altruistic FIC — they make and give away freebies but hobble the market and the creativity of others by putting them on no-mod and no-copy and even no-transfer.

Anybody who doesn’t want to enable another to resell something has only to click off the box “resale/transfer”.