Comments on: Here Come da Judges: Second Life Superior Court is Now in Session

By: Jessica Holyoke

Jessica Holyoke — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:40:52 +0000

The reason why I didn’t mention this project is because at least as of November 2006, this superior court was no longer in existence. Judge Mason and Judge Churchill are empty shells in People search.

By: amber carlberg

amber carlberg — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:25:46 +0000

how serious and / or effective this really is must depend only on a test of its merits. watch this space… what boggles my mind is how come a reporter for the herald who is an observer of the metaverse republic project has not thought it fit to draw our attention to this… and can a couple of law students seriously expect senior lawyers within secondlife to waive their common sense as is to be required and appear before them, even if secondlife be perceived to be a game, as no doubt their ‘honours’ must perceive it to be?

watch this space

By: TrannyPet Barmy

TrannyPet Barmy — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:19:48 +0000

how many times has he been banned though ? wrongly banned at that ?

Which ever Linden you are, you’re FOS, as are all the rest

TrannyPet Barmy

By: Sabin

Sabin — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:01:33 +0000

Trust me, Lindens do enforce the rules against themselves. You’d be surprised how many times Bub has been kicked out of a sim.

By: Prokofy Neva

Prokofy Neva — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:50:22 +0000

Cindy, Some day not you, but perhaps your children will be happy that Prokofy fought for things like removing the vicious officer recall function from groups so that they could not harm landowners, tier-payers, and even just generally well-organized non-profit projects. This is the sort of struggle that doesn’t seem to bear fruit right away, but when you look back, you see it was worth it. I’m sure that some day, when you or your children or your friends get to take THEIR TURN on the website instead of Aimee and company, you’ll also be grateful. Nobody ever thanks the people who make these struggles, even when they benefit from them.

By: Marsellus Wallace

Marsellus Wallace — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:47:08 +0000

Ya unless the Lindens actually agree to this, no way of actual enforcement. You can’t report someone for something that happened 3 weeks ago. There would be no proof other than logs or screenshots that someone could make up. Thats what the reporting feature is for. You can send an official copy to Linden Labs. If you want to sue someone for selling you a blue ball when you bought a red one, that’s buyer beware as the Lindens say clearly on the site. They will not handle disputes in regards to bad business.

I think it’s a great idea, but unless Linden labs agree to it officially, it’s futile. As someone else already said, all it is is arbitration, you still have to have the judgment enforced somehow. Even if both parties agree, no way to regulate payments or whatever unless property or cash is put up first by the defendent and good luck with that one. The only way someone would do that would be to try and save face.. Of which most won’t and don’t care.

Marsellus Wallace

By: Cindy Claveau

Cindy Claveau — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:16:01 +0000

To briefly summarize, a couple of law school students have taken it upon themselves to set up an arbitration process without any method of enforcing their own judgements beyond the agreement of both submitting parties.

Yeh, that’ll fly

Interesting pretend exercise for a school paper, but in terms of actually accomplishing anything this will have all the impact on Second Life of a Prokofy brainfart.

By: Janus Sartre

Janus Sartre — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:16:32 +0000

While on the surface this is about as binding as wet noodles it is a good experiment.

I heartily agree that the whole “Bring suit v. Linden Labs” is a farfetched pipe dream that is more likely to get you restricted or banned than have any real effect. For Resident v. Resident disputes I think it has a very nice People’s Court Dynamic. If both sides decide to abide by the judgement and arbitration (Hopefully not abritrary) then it can work, and the report filed to Linden with the consent of both parties then has some legitimacy if people do not follow the sentence.

Another interesting possibility here, which again is subject to many problems from the outset, would be the inclusion of a cosent clause built in to the Renters agreements for land to have a hearing of certain greivances before the courts.

By: Joe Public

Joe Public — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:31:04 +0000

and so be it the court of SL passes judgment and sentences you to…”Death by Hectoring” to be administered by Chief Executioner Prokofy Neva.

May god have mercy on your soul…

By: Tony Walsh

Tony Walsh — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:30:31 +0000

Uri, you describe the SLSC in better terms than they do themselves. I agree that observing the SLSC is not a futile effort. If they framed themselves more accurately they might get more support. The SLSC’s references to the Lindens and possible “actions” against them only cause confusion and concern. But it’s a great way to get attention. Can’t wait for the headlines.