Comments on: To the editor: Why I left SL – Lindens rip off designers, mentor program overrun with W-hats and other griefers http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: M http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-58342 M Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:28:21 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-58342 SL is nothing but a shill disguised as an Internet "community". Nearly every aspect of SL is centered around extracting real life money for digital creations that has a randomly assigned arbitrary value that doesn't adhere to any sort of professional guidelines. It's like paying good money for amateur pieces of art! Even Linden charges you to upload a profile pic. LMAO. You people that love SL are idiotic. SL is nothing but a shill disguised as an Internet “community”. Nearly every aspect of SL is centered around extracting real life money for digital creations that has a randomly assigned arbitrary value that doesn’t adhere to any sort of professional guidelines.

It’s like paying good money for amateur pieces of art!

Even Linden charges you to upload a profile pic. LMAO. You people that love SL are idiotic.

]]> By: fuksecondlife http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44457 fuksecondlife Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:29:09 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44457 correction the address I want you to visit is this http://preview.tinyurl.com/k25ma it was: http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/08/ metaverse-breached-seco nd-life-customer-database-hacked/ but it wouldnt fit as one constant word. Good Luck with SL Maybe you will be a lucky one and not get screwed out of money. correction the address I want you to visit is this

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k25ma

it was:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/08/
metaverse-breached-seco
nd-life-customer-database-hacked/

but it wouldnt fit as one constant word.

Good Luck with SL Maybe you will be a lucky one and not get screwed out of money.

]]> By: even worse http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44456 even worse Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:24:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44456 http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/08/metaverse-breached-second-life-customer-database-hacked/ Yeah its an older story but every single person who was online before that date has all and yes I mean ALL of their private information revealed. Personally I am leaving Secondlife today, after asking LIASON SPIKE LINDEN why my Hundreds of real dollars had not made it to my account for over a month now he kicked me offline, then somehow blocked my access to my account directly on secondlife.com!? I lost money and asked why and he kicks me off and blocks access to my account that I still have money in? What kind of help is that. Here are all the reasons im getting as far away from second life as I can: My/your personal information has been hacked and was reported to be very easy to do again, I have lost hundreds of dollars and only received a cut and paste response after countless emails, I have lost paid items, constant system upgrades/bullshit fix's/crashing/downtime, of course griefers, liasons that are worthless and clueless, liasons that double as griefers and then erase their own tracks or have a friend do it for them (yes it happens), and complete lack of support when there is a problem. PS read the TOS first few paragraphs, WHEN YOU BUY LINDENS YOU ARE WASTING YOUR MONEY, IT CLEARLY STATES YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPENSATION NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON, IN LAYMANS TERMS: WHEN THE SYSTEM CRASHES FOR GOOD AND BELIEVE ME IT WILL, YOU ARE SCREWED AND THEY ARE RICH. Im not saying dont play the game Im just saying DO NOT LEAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF LINDENS ON YOUR ACCOUNT, if you do you will be sorry. Mark My Words. http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/09/08/metaverse-breached-second-life-customer-database-hacked/

Yeah its an older story but every single person who was online before that date has all and yes I mean ALL of their private information revealed.

Personally I am leaving Secondlife today, after asking LIASON SPIKE LINDEN why my Hundreds of real dollars had not made it to my account for over a month now he kicked me offline, then somehow blocked my access to my account directly on secondlife.com!? I lost money and asked why and he kicks me off and blocks access to my account that I still have money in? What kind of help is that. Here are all the reasons im getting as far away from second life as I can:
My/your personal information has been hacked and was reported to be very easy to do again,
I have lost hundreds of dollars and only received a cut and paste response after countless emails,
I have lost paid items,
constant system upgrades/bullshit fix’s/crashing/downtime, of course griefers,
liasons that are worthless and clueless,
liasons that double as griefers and then erase their own tracks or have a friend do it for them (yes it happens),
and complete lack of support when there is a problem.

PS read the TOS first few paragraphs, WHEN YOU BUY LINDENS YOU ARE WASTING YOUR MONEY, IT CLEARLY STATES YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPENSATION NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON, IN LAYMANS TERMS: WHEN THE SYSTEM CRASHES FOR GOOD AND BELIEVE ME IT WILL, YOU ARE SCREWED AND THEY ARE RICH. Im not saying dont play the game Im just saying DO NOT LEAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF LINDENS ON YOUR ACCOUNT, if you do you will be sorry. Mark My Words.

]]> By: stellsy http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44455 stellsy Tue, 01 Nov 2005 04:40:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44455 Thats fair. Thanks Antje and everyone for your thoughtful posts. The feedback is helpful and appreciated. Uri the "spend the night" website is up now i just noticed with a log in page. Im gonna check it out. Thats fair. Thanks Antje and everyone for your thoughtful posts. The feedback is helpful and appreciated. Uri the “spend the night” website is up now i just noticed with a log in page. Im gonna check it out.

]]> By: Antje http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44454 Antje Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:42:55 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44454 Actually Stellsy, that comment about making shit up was mostly directed at Prokofy. The only thing I have seen you do that perturbs me so far is to speculate about LL's hiring policy (and then call me a liar when I was simply trying to offer some rationale in light of some specious claims), when you have offered no hard evidence as to whether or not they hire only "suck-ups". When you marginalize people in such an off-handed fashion, expect to be asked for proof. As far as the rest of your story goes, I believe it, especially the W-Hat stuff. I have had my own run-ins with those assholes. I reported them for one particularly egregious incident, only to be informed by a Linden that they couldn't take action... So to that end, I hate to hear that they played a role in your decision to leave. That is unacceptable, and LL should be ashamed. I hope they read the letter Uri has published on your behalf. Actually Stellsy, that comment about making shit up was mostly directed at Prokofy. The only thing I have seen you do that perturbs me so far is to speculate about LL’s hiring policy (and then call me a liar when I was simply trying to offer some rationale in light of some specious claims), when you have offered no hard evidence as to whether or not they hire only “suck-ups”.

When you marginalize people in such an off-handed fashion, expect to be asked for proof.

As far as the rest of your story goes, I believe it, especially the W-Hat stuff. I have had my own run-ins with those assholes. I reported them for one particularly egregious incident, only to be informed by a Linden that they couldn’t take action…

So to that end, I hate to hear that they played a role in your decision to leave. That is unacceptable, and LL should be ashamed. I hope they read the letter Uri has published on your behalf.

]]> By: stellsy http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44453 stellsy Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:17:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44453 Yes its too much to expect me to turn my friends over to a pack of vultures, especially because, as Uri pointed out at the beginning of the story, that it wasnt written to be a main article or thread. My words were posted here in the comment section of forums regarding these specific issues. Dont get me wrong. Im very pleased Uri brought my personal situation to your attention. Im glad i had a voice to speak my mind. But i dont feel obligated to "prove" anything. I dont particularly care what anyone thinks. I know enough to know that it doesnt matter what i say. And dragging people i care about into it without asking their consent first . . well maybe youd do it. But im not you. Some of the people involved id have no way to contact outside of Second Life now. And since i cancelled my subscription its not even practical. Only person i would consider giving that info to is Uri. He is the only person aside from Simone who i would trust. And for obvious reason Simone needs to stay diplomatic. Only the other hand, i have nothing to lose. And i will continue to speak my mind as i choose and youll continue to call me a liar - Embellish, exaggerate, and make shit up - and it wont make one bit of difference to me either way. Yes its too much to expect me to turn my friends over to a pack of vultures, especially because, as Uri pointed out at the beginning of the story, that it wasnt written to be a main article or thread. My words were posted here in the comment section of forums regarding these specific issues. Dont get me wrong. Im very pleased Uri brought my personal situation to your attention. Im glad i had a voice to speak my mind. But i dont feel obligated to “prove” anything. I dont particularly care what anyone thinks. I know enough to know that it doesnt matter what i say. And dragging people i care about into it without asking their consent first . . well maybe youd do it. But im not you. Some of the people involved id have no way to contact outside of Second Life now. And since i cancelled my subscription its not even practical. Only person i would consider giving that info to is Uri. He is the only person aside from Simone who i would trust. And for obvious reason Simone needs to stay diplomatic. Only the other hand, i have nothing to lose. And i will continue to speak my mind as i choose and youll continue to call me a liar – Embellish, exaggerate, and make shit up – and it wont make one bit of difference to me either way.

]]> By: Antje http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44452 Antje Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:25:07 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44452 They never give evidence Observer 77. I've asked them for evidence on many occasions, especially that Prokofy character. She never provides any. She just goes off on another name calling, personal issue diatribe. Embellish, exaggerate, and make shit up. They never give evidence Observer 77. I’ve asked them for evidence on many occasions, especially that Prokofy character. She never provides any. She just goes off on another name calling, personal issue diatribe.

Embellish, exaggerate, and make shit up.

]]> By: observer 77 http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44451 observer 77 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:25:06 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44451 I'll just ask again one more time. The poster said " The year I spent in Second Life I saw Lindens rip off designers work and market it as their own. My designer friends were unable to get compensated, even after personally speaking with Phillip." Is it too much to expect at least some evidence for this very direct accusation ? Its plural (not just one designer). It's ripping off by the Lindens themselves, not by someone else they failed to punish. If I am to believe this is anything but baseless whining, I want two real examples. Dont sidestep and try to put forward GOM as your evidence. They are not designers, and anyway you must know that there are strongly held views on what happened there. Strongly held on both sides. Some evidence, please. There are no safety issues preventing speaking out here. To plead them is to increase my beiief that there is no such evidence because there is no truth in the allegation. Convince me - my mind is open......it's just that I don't swallow totally unsupported allegations. I’ll just ask again one more time. The poster said
” The year I spent in Second Life I saw Lindens rip off designers work and market it as their own. My designer friends were unable to get compensated, even after personally speaking with Phillip.”

Is it too much to expect at least some evidence for this very direct accusation ? Its plural (not just one designer). It’s ripping off by the Lindens themselves, not by someone else they failed to punish. If I am to believe this is anything but baseless whining, I want two real examples. Dont sidestep and try to put forward GOM as your evidence. They are not designers, and anyway you must know that there are strongly held views on what happened there. Strongly held on both sides.

Some evidence, please. There are no safety issues preventing speaking out here. To plead them is to increase my beiief that there is no such evidence because there is no truth in the allegation. Convince me – my mind is open……it’s just that I don’t swallow totally unsupported allegations.

]]> By: stellsy http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44450 stellsy Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:23:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44450 No i was suspended for profanity. Altho i wasnt engaged in any arguements and i cant remember cursing i suppose its reasonable to assume i may have posted "Shit!" as i went flying across the sim. Massive griefing and profanity was taking place in the area. Many abuse reports were filed and i was the only person suspended that day. Also its interesting to note id never been banned during my entire time in Second Life. You cant really send a clearer message then that. This is on the heels of a forum post slamming Linden Labs over griefing in a thread started by FlipperPA. Also around that time i challenged Phillip publically infront of an audience over W-hat during a random visit to the welcome area. I knew i wasnt making friends. But at that point, griefing was so out of hand, id lost my incentive. Everytime id try to welcome a new resident, some random goon would come up and tell the new player to leave SL or interfer with my volunteer work. Its not like one poster suggested. I wasnt "someone who simply got up a lot of peoples noses" I was there helping new residents and to design. I wasnt there to argue or get up in someone else's business. I wouldnt have the time for it. I let griefers run me out of SL because i no longer trusted the system anyway. No im not naming people in forums. Id like to protect my friends from backlash if possible. Shouldnt be difficult to understand. No i was suspended for profanity. Altho i wasnt engaged in any arguements and i cant remember cursing i suppose its reasonable to assume i may have posted “Shit!” as i went flying across the sim. Massive griefing and profanity was taking place in the area. Many abuse reports were filed and i was the only person suspended that day. Also its interesting to note id never been banned during my entire time in Second Life. You cant really send a clearer message then that. This is on the heels of a forum post slamming Linden Labs over griefing in a thread started by FlipperPA. Also around that time i challenged Phillip publically infront of an audience over W-hat during a random visit to the welcome area. I knew i wasnt making friends. But at that point, griefing was so out of hand, id lost my incentive. Everytime id try to welcome a new resident, some random goon would come up and tell the new player to leave SL or interfer with my volunteer work. Its not like one poster suggested. I wasnt “someone who simply got up a lot of peoples noses” I was there helping new residents and to design. I wasnt there to argue or get up in someone else’s business. I wouldnt have the time for it. I let griefers run me out of SL because i no longer trusted the system anyway. No im not naming people in forums. Id like to protect my friends from backlash if possible. Shouldnt be difficult to understand.

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2005/10/to_the_editor_w.html/comment-page-1#comment-44449 Prokofy Neva Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:39:10 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2180#comment-44449 Well, erm, in the grand scheme of things, isn't LindEx ripping off another designer's work, namely GOM? There's probably other big stuff like that too, no? Yes, the nefarious Lindens harvested my left nut at SOP III while I was AFK in a bar, Uri, ouch, but after the re-opening of the non-surgical incision and restitching, I've been limping along OK -- but, hey, ouch! Still, I'm thinking this is going to prepare me well for that kewl penal subincision you got while living with the Walbiri tribe in central Australia, still waiting for that intro to the chief -- hey, does he play WoW? Well, erm, in the grand scheme of things, isn’t LindEx ripping off another designer’s work, namely GOM? There’s probably other big stuff like that too, no?

Yes, the nefarious Lindens harvested my left nut at SOP III while I was AFK in a bar, Uri, ouch, but after the re-opening of the non-surgical incision and restitching, I’ve been limping along OK — but, hey, ouch! Still, I’m thinking this is going to prepare me well for that kewl penal subincision you got while living with the Walbiri tribe in central Australia, still waiting for that intro to the chief — hey, does he play WoW?

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