Seriously… http://www.slexchange.com/modules/Marketplace/Images/13b304349ed7c091a2d72dd9a6d5a0a9.jpeg
I think she’s very nicely proportioned. (Mystique)

I agree that the “Moonstone” outfit could benefit from some basic Photoshop knowledge, however, the rest of the outfits really depend on personal taste. They’re hardly poorly executed. I don’t know that they really deserved the bashing the Herald gave them.

I gotta echo the Tomato here and say I’m kinda nervous about the Herald ever reviewing me as a designer. Assuming my 9am-10pm ever lets up so I can finish my collection.

Here is a link to a few of my creations.

http://photobucket.com/albums/y112/DelectableDaphne/SL%20Clothing/

Definately a bit different from Munch but since you brought it up and obviously did not read the responses you may go a make your opinion on my work.

There is no jealousy involved what so ever on my part. I more than appreciate Munches talent. My critique was on my models who were not using their head before getting on the runway.

*shakes head* at the utter ignorance of people who type before they read.

The one girl Melissa I think it was, was said to have hips 3 TIMES BIGGER THAN HER WAIST OMG, well sorry but I don’t see that. She has to be one of the most proportioned avs I have seen in a show such as this. Aren’t women supposed to have some hip? I think so, otherwise they would all look like men with tits.

Seems the writers may have a bit of jealousy creeping into their article here. Munchflowers creations are always awesome and unique. What exactly have the writers created because I have never heard of either of them. I’d love to see what the hell they can produce so I can make my opinion on them and their designs.

They can dish it, but can they take it?

That said, I do have to disagree with Chipsen on a few of her statements in this review.

I am used to Chipsen being scathing, but this took it further than she’s gone before, in my opinion. Sure, I can see a couple of things in the headliner dress that aren’t my favorite things, but Munchflower was trying to create a unique look with the petaled prims (are they prims? they look like prims from the picture). Like previous posters, I agree that the “Cher look-alike” comment was unnecessary. Just because both a guy and Cher have long hair, it doesn’t mean that a similarity has to be drawn between the two of them. Actually, seeing that picture makes me want to go to Munchflower’s store and look at it closer to see if it’d be something I’d wear. Chipsen’s personal attacks on Tiffany, one of SL’s better models in my opinion, were also unnecessary. It’s not the best skin I’ve seen, and the makeup doesn’t quite match, but I think the main issue is that it may distract attention from the dress a bit. Implying that Melyissa doesn’t have a brain was simply uncalled-for in my opinion. I do see the point of changing the color on the shoes to match the dress, but that’s all that needed to be said. I’ll be completely honest here – I find it utterly hillarious that people are saying there are no positive reviews in this review, but then there’s Chipsen’s overview of Gauze. I’d also like to reiterate that when Seri and I hired Musimba, it wasn’t because he was a furry. It was because we saw talent and potential in him that we have felt could be developed to make him a better model who just happens to be a lion. In Mystique’s defense, the shoes she is wearing is a set that I made called “Silver Elegance.” It has a limited spectrum of color-changing, so that is the best one to match the dress itself if you were looking for a color in that family. I agree with Chipsen, though, that perhaps a black would have been better. Finally, Chipsen’s comments on the runway itself didn’t really come as a surprise to me. I’ve been looking at it thinking I needed to develop it a bit more, but didn’t want to risk adding any lag in that area.

I’ll also say that I agree with much that Daphne has said. Having trained and worked with all but one of the models pictured above, I do think that they had been trained better than some of the mistakes that were made. I’m sure that these errors are working to be improved-upon and that Cloud Nine’s next fashion show will be their best yet.

“Oh, I’m sorry, that requires a brain.”

Huh??!! Chipsen stops short of calling Munchflower a “big fat poopie head” but the juvenile tone is loud and clear. The uninspired analysis makes it obvious that the author already had in mind to write a no-holds-barred scathing review that would “really make people’s toes curl.” So she found a designer, ANY designer, upon which to heap her high-school-and-a-little-community-college writing skills.

This whole article would have been great flame bait in the comments section of a fashion article, but to be published by SL Herald?! Uri, you guys are normally so witty. Why the change in direction?

In the fashion circut we train and teach the girls how to walk, accessorize, deal with lag, and present themselves in a manner condusive to what a RL agency would. Granted it is just a game you all say but it is a role playing game that simulates real life and we do treat our businesses as we would in RL. Designers create clothing to sell, builders create items to sell…all with the hopes or achieving realism.

So why is it so hard to understand that as an owner/officer/trainer of more than one modeling agency to expect perfection in each and every model under my employ? (I am an officer in C9 which is the agency mentioned here)

What I presented here is the same as I would present in a meeting with the models directly to their face and have on numerous occasions. So to get furious with them about the size of their ass is not something new. I am a designer myself and I have shown my clothing in more than one show and I know I’d be disappointed if something I created looked horrible due to lack of professionalism in a model wearing my designs.

I am a bit disappointed in some of the comments here, considering that I have been side by side with more than one that has trained models with me, who passed a comment about the helper who makes it sound like a fact. Funny…it was a fact for 2 months training girls for Fashion Week. *sigh*

I do not agree with all of Chipsens reviews, like I mentioned in my first comment…to even collaborate with her was insane. But I felt that this show truly lacked in the professionalism that has been presented over and over again in any agency that I have been a part of. And regardless of what anyone says, if you possess a tag from more than one agency, you REPRESENT each and every one when someone looks at your profile and views that. And if you look like shit, it falls back on owners such as myself, Asri, Sensual, Seraph, Matthias etc etc etc. We are here to make sure that ANY designer who is to contract us is represented well and his/her designs are presented PERFECTLY, cookie cut out or not. IF you applied to be a model; just as if you were under the employ of a RL agency such as Ford, you are being paid in either Lindens, or clothing or both to BE THAT COOKIE CUT OUT. IF you don’t want that then jesus, don’t apply. Above and beyond that, once you leave that runway if you want to revert back to your own shape with a huge ass, then by all means go for it. But while on my stage or any stage I represent, those models will look perfect and so will the designs they wear.

So for those of you that just come sit at a show and watch, try to understand ALL the work that goes into putting together a show. From the moment we contract a designer to the final round of applause at the end of a show. What WE as coordinators do is way more than any of you can possibly imagine … and for the dedicated models (even if your ass was big the other night) THANK YOU … because whether I yell at you or not, without you, these shows would not be possible. Just understand where I (and others that share this passion for modeling/coordinating) are coming from. We only yell at you because we love you and want the best for you…*giggles* (that was so MOM like) You are our babies, we take you from ugly duckling in some cases, to fashion model because we care for what we do, and want you to shine when on that stage.(and spare you “harsh” comments from that other bitch Chipsen) *sticks out tongue*

I dont mind the article. Nothin wrong with constructive criticism, altho I highly doubt that is the spirit in which this article was written.

I realize fashion is an industry where people make real life dollars from it. And, in real life you can expect a certain level of professionalism. But, youre deluding yourself if you think every designer is concerned with making money off you or gaining your esteem. Some artists just wanna give something back to the game and community. Offer their visions and ideas of beauty. Designers do not get paid enough to take shit off critics or anyone else in Second Life. Its best to have the attitude that its a game and the priority is to have fun. When you start bringing real life expectations into it youll quickly realize it doesnt translate. This debate is absurd and a wee bit mean spirited.

A couple things. The clothes were high fashion inspired. Anime inspired. Sue me for trying to break the mold and do something unique.
Secondly, I didn’t even get to come to the show. The models didn’t get the clothes till shortly before it, because I’m having foot surgery TOMORROW and life is chaotic right now. Sue me again.
Third – I want to agree with the cookie cutter mold. God forbid we show some individuality here.
Fourth – CHILL OUT! you want MY opinion?? This was nothing more than a flamefest with absolutely no professionalism. Mudslingling. Hogwash. Bullsh%t.
That said, have a nice day!

- Munchflower Zaius – evil fashionista.