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Cults pull people away from their families and friends and isolate a person so that no one can contradict whatever they intend to force a person to think, so can you please explain to me, if Gor is a “cult”, why have my personal and work relationships improved so much since i submitted a few years ago?

Also, why did I go from barely getting through my classes to graduating with over a 3.5 GPA and being a member of 2 honors fraternities, as well as, scoring in the 95th percentile on my Major Field Achievement Test (MFAT)?

My life has improved immensly since my relationship. In fact, there has really been nothing destructive about it, but then we have built a lot of trust over the years.

Don’t get me wrong, there are pleanty of online Gor relationships that can go really bad, however, just because some relationships don’t go well, doesn’t mean that all of them are bad.

Gor, overall, is not a cult, though Goreans should continue to be safe and consensual in their relationships, as i know that they tend to.

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Kara,

I understand why you tend to see that as far fetched, but, unfortuanately, some people do use things like Gor, D/s, and BDSM as hunting grounds for what they consider easy prey.

While i don’t believe that Gor is a cult, as some suggested, relational abuse is a very real and dangerous thing, and when proper precautions aren’t taken it does happen. Psychological abuse, in particular, is the most common, and, yet least known form of abuse and it can get very intelligent and sane people to do very stupid and crazy things.

Just as the others shouldn’t assume that something’s a cult just because they don’t agree with it and some happen to go too far at times, you shouldn’t assume that if someone gets abused that they deserve it either. You have no idea what you’ll do in a given situation, until you’re there.

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I know it’s hard to believe but there have been cases of Gorean slave rings being broken up all across the United States. One case that stands out in my mind is a case where a woman entered her slavery willingly and once the lifestyle became too much for her to take psychologically she requested to leave and be set free. The men running this particular ring refused to grant her freedom and she was held prisoner (mostly by her own fear) simply because in her mind she could not leave unless her “Masters” allowed such. When she finally got the courage to run away, she returned with police, the men were arressted and the women were taken into custody. The case was eventually thrown out because the woman as all the women entered into the slave ring willfully. The other women testified (suspectedly under the orders of the men) that they were all living that way of their own free will and nothing out of the ordinary aside from some alternative lifestyle actions were being done. The woman herself told a much more vivd story of prostitution, drug abuse, and many other things that she had been subjected to. When asked why she submitted herself to this type of life she could only respond that she met one of the men on the internet and he was her Gorean Master. Once the case was over the slave ring quickly packed up shop and relocated to another unknown location. One thing that did come out during the trial, by one of the men’s admission were that they were just one location of an entire network across the country of “Gorean Lifestylers” and that they believed in living “by the book” in their daily lives.

These kinds of horror stories do happen, not often, but it does. It is reasons like these that many people have such harsh views on what we consider simple role-play. To those of us who are not so engrossed in the fantasy of the RP it is a healthy way to release steam and tension from a normal life. However, there will always be extremists and there will always be victims. To those people who believe that it is healthy to live Gor in the real lives, I firmly say no thank you, I don’t want to join your CULT. I am perfectly happy being Gorean in character alone and that is enough for me. I can live out my Gorean fantasies vicariously thru my character.

On to the point. I can see validation in both arguements. Is Gor role-play? Yes absolutely. Is Gor a cult? Yes it definately has that potential. I (a 6 year veteran of Goran RP both as slave and Free Woman) have seen good role-play taken too far. When the line between RP and RL blurs and the “Gorean Master” begins to believe his own bullshit, it’s disturbing. I scoff at the “Real-Life Goreans” the term is an oxymoron. There is no planet Gor, no Priest-Kings, and no Acquisition ships coming to take you away. I understand adhering to some of the ideology of Gor, however isn’t that exactly what scientologists do, adhere to the ideology of L. Ron Hubbard?

There are real prostitutes being abused in every city of the world. Prostitution is legal in South America, Canada, Europe.
Go out of your air conditioned room and solve some real world problems instead.
Let us play the *GAME* in peace.

If you are bored with Gor talks, why don’t you go to Counter Strike forums and eat their brains out? Run along or they will take AK-47s and play havoc in public places!!!
How about targeting Tom and Jerry games? They sure are violent and kids like them.