Comments on: In Which I Happen to Invent Web 3-point-D http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Walker Spaight http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42867 Walker Spaight Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:09:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42867 We're sharing it, Satch. Do you want I should break you off a piece? We’re sharing it, Satch. Do you want I should break you off a piece?

]]> By: Satchmo Prototype http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42866 Satchmo Prototype Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:02:46 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42866 Not sure which one of you guys really claims ownership of it, especially since I heard you both say it independently within a few hours of each other, but I've been spreading the Web 3.d coinage everywhere I go. Might as well have our own buzzword rather than tweak some old ones :) Not sure which one of you guys really claims ownership of it, especially since I heard you both say it independently within a few hours of each other, but I’ve been spreading the Web 3.d coinage everywhere I go. Might as well have our own buzzword rather than tweak some old ones :)

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42865 Prokofy Neva Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:43:39 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42865 What I really hate about these stories is not only how incestuous and fatuous they are with the whole FIC/SIC thing (which Walker is now firmly placing the Herald into, to our immense disappointment), it's how the RL-SL thing rips into the immersive world, and leaves one with a sense of violation, of deep queasiness, precisely because it rips the fabric, it destroys it, but replaces it with total bland stupidity. Like, you get this: One of the most interesting parts of the party was the projection of Second Life that streamed onto a white wall of R&B Coffee all night -- interesting not for what was on the screen, but for the fact that there was a constant gaggle of virtual world virgins standing in front of the image throughout the event, alternately staring in wonder and chatting amongst themselves about what this weird world could be and what they themselves could possibly get up to in there See, you step on, don't care about, and are happy to trash what is happening on the stream -- but perhaps that's because usually what's happening is a lot of avatars dancing, setting off Watermelon launchers, and appearing for the camera in as wacky a costume/wierd avatar as they can, in the utter cliche of all RL-SL encounters, which inevitably mimic the Star Wars Bar meme. And you leave "to the imagination" what "they themselves could possibly get up to there," even though we know you're supremely indifferent, if not ironical, if not contemptuous of what most people "get up to there". As for "we need to bring those skills out into the world" it still escapes me what these skills are. Mainly the skills consist so far of merely serving as glorified tour guides and ferrymen to the virtual world itself, it's about itself. What I really hate about these stories is not only how incestuous and fatuous they are with the whole FIC/SIC thing (which Walker is now firmly placing the Herald into, to our immense disappointment), it’s how the RL-SL thing rips into the immersive world, and leaves one with a sense of violation, of deep queasiness, precisely because it rips the fabric, it destroys it, but replaces it with total bland stupidity.

Like, you get this:

One of the most interesting parts of the party was the projection of Second Life that streamed onto a white wall of R&B Coffee all night — interesting not for what was on the screen, but for the fact that there was a constant gaggle of virtual world virgins standing in front of the image throughout the event, alternately staring in wonder and chatting amongst themselves about what this weird world could be and what they themselves could possibly get up to in there

See, you step on, don’t care about, and are happy to trash what is happening on the stream — but perhaps that’s because usually what’s happening is a lot of avatars dancing, setting off Watermelon launchers, and appearing for the camera in as wacky a costume/wierd avatar as they can, in the utter cliche of all RL-SL encounters, which inevitably mimic the Star Wars Bar meme.

And you leave “to the imagination” what “they themselves could possibly get up to there,” even though we know you’re supremely indifferent, if not ironical, if not contemptuous of what most people “get up to there”.

As for “we need to bring those skills out into the world” it still escapes me what these skills are. Mainly the skills consist so far of merely serving as glorified tour guides and ferrymen to the virtual world itself, it’s about itself.

]]> By: Alvis Brigis http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42864 Alvis Brigis Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:02:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42864 The widespread Web 2.0, Web 3.0, Web 3-D coinage debate has been funny to watch, with people sometimes growing serious attachment to 1 of the 3 and sometimes getting offendend. So here's another meme to throw into the darwinistic fray: how about .ddd (pronounced dot-three-dee)? The widespread Web 2.0, Web 3.0, Web 3-D coinage debate has been funny to watch, with people sometimes growing serious attachment to 1 of the 3 and sometimes getting offendend. So here’s another meme to throw into the darwinistic fray: how about .ddd (pronounced dot-three-dee)?

]]> By: ironperth http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42863 ironperth Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:00:34 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42863 Well, the article seemed to have a lot of truthiness so I believed ya, Walker. Well, the article seemed to have a lot of truthiness so I believed ya, Walker.

]]> By: Blunderful Bunderfeld http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42862 Blunderful Bunderfeld Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:53:04 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42862 How about .ddd (spoken as dot-three-dee) as and alternative ? How about .ddd (spoken as dot-three-dee) as and alternative ?

]]> By: Jerry Paffendorf http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42861 Jerry Paffendorf Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:11:38 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42861 > Really, though, I'm just experimenting with what it feels like to be Al Gore, hehe. And I was just experimenting with East Coast/West Coast hand signals in those pics. WEast side is D best! :p > Really, though, I’m just experimenting with what it feels like to be Al Gore, hehe.

And I was just experimenting with East Coast/West Coast hand signals in those pics. WEast side is D best! :p

]]> By: Walker Spaight http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42860 Walker Spaight Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:55:43 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42860 Well, I think I can release the term under some sort of Creative Commons license or something. Really, though, I'm just experimenting with what it feels like to be Al Gore, hehe. Well, I think I can release the term under some sort of Creative Commons license or something. Really, though, I’m just experimenting with what it feels like to be Al Gore, hehe.

]]> By: pt http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/02/in_which_i_happ.html/comment-page-1#comment-42859 pt Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:49:01 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=2045#comment-42859 yah - i've been joking around about the terms web 3.0 and web 3.d for a few months now, the first mention was at oreilly's foo camp during a late night werewolf session. the other mention was with joi ito a few months ago, on #joiito on freenode regarding WoW. but i like to build stuff, so it's all yours :-] i think part of the definition of what 3.d services are will be the glues between real world and in world services. right now, it's a little email, a little xml-rpc, but it's just getting started. what is the meta data on virtual objects or in world searches that can reach out to the web, and how can objects / places, etc get indexed in real world engines. i'm still in dire need of rss and opml from second life, in any shape or form. fun stuff, thanks for the write up. cheers, pt yah – i’ve been joking around about the terms web 3.0 and web 3.d for a few months now, the first mention was at oreilly’s foo camp during a late night werewolf session. the other mention was with joi ito a few months ago, on #joiito on freenode regarding WoW.

but i like to build stuff, so it’s all yours :-]

i think part of the definition of what 3.d services are will be the glues between real world and in world services. right now, it’s a little email, a little xml-rpc, but it’s just getting started. what is the meta data on virtual objects or in world searches that can reach out to the web, and how can objects / places, etc get indexed in real world engines. i’m still in dire need of rss and opml from second life, in any shape or form.

fun stuff, thanks for the write up.

cheers,
pt

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