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	<title>Comments on: Linden Lab&#8217;s Data Disclosure Violates LL’s TOS</title>
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		<title>By: Random Writer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/09/linden_labs_dat.html/comment-page-1#comment-41908</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  As for creating unverified alts being a violation of ToS, they only ban by av, not even as far as IP, therefore they don&#039;t even connect the dots of unverified alts.  They can&#039;t ban for which they do not know.  And considering how many people file reports that are ignored, they sure as hell aren&#039;t gonna listen to reports on people who &#039;say&#039; they are an alt of another.

Ironically, they still require you to pay when you WANT to be verified on several accounts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  As for creating unverified alts being a violation of ToS, they only ban by av, not even as far as IP, therefore they don&#8217;t even connect the dots of unverified alts.  They can&#8217;t ban for which they do not know.  And considering how many people file reports that are ignored, they sure as hell aren&#8217;t gonna listen to reports on people who &#8216;say&#8217; they are an alt of another.</p>
<p>Ironically, they still require you to pay when you WANT to be verified on several accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Writer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/09/linden_labs_dat.html/comment-page-1#comment-41907</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF LL was a smart enough (or caring enough, I chose that they don&#039;t care), common IT setups would NOT host avs, main account numbers AND credit card numbers AND pay pal info on the same server and only encrypting half of it.

Hell, I&#039;m not even into computer companies, but I do know what common sense is.

Don&#039;t be a fanboy about this.  It&#039;s totally unacceptable for such an easy hack that was done to be allowed to happen to us.  Sure it was Zero day, and for all we know, a real 10 accounts may have been hacked, but considering LL never throws a credit card number away from it&#039;s system and they house it in the same system encrypted and the av details which WERE NOT, that&#039;s like holding a back door open to a thief.

If they had done it right and the fire station was set on fire, a back up fire truck would have been en route in minutes to put it out.  (I.E., they would have had a secondary wall to break through, requiring more time and then the initial hack would have been seen in time.)

They are operating at the most cheapest cost possible, not only leaving beta testing to main grid people, but not running enough servers, not even close.  No more than 2 sims a server would be ideal, and content would have been another, payment info would be another, financial info would be another, av listings would be another, etc.  But they choose to run 4-5 sims a server, and only 1 single server for everything else?  I didn&#039;t dare dream they&#039;d be that stupid, yet here we are, in the endless barrage of pw resetting.

Hell, they even hosted the SECURITY questions and answers on the SAME server and THAT was hacked right after!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF LL was a smart enough (or caring enough, I chose that they don&#8217;t care), common IT setups would NOT host avs, main account numbers AND credit card numbers AND pay pal info on the same server and only encrypting half of it.</p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;m not even into computer companies, but I do know what common sense is.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a fanboy about this.  It&#8217;s totally unacceptable for such an easy hack that was done to be allowed to happen to us.  Sure it was Zero day, and for all we know, a real 10 accounts may have been hacked, but considering LL never throws a credit card number away from it&#8217;s system and they house it in the same system encrypted and the av details which WERE NOT, that&#8217;s like holding a back door open to a thief.</p>
<p>If they had done it right and the fire station was set on fire, a back up fire truck would have been en route in minutes to put it out.  (I.E., they would have had a secondary wall to break through, requiring more time and then the initial hack would have been seen in time.)</p>
<p>They are operating at the most cheapest cost possible, not only leaving beta testing to main grid people, but not running enough servers, not even close.  No more than 2 sims a server would be ideal, and content would have been another, payment info would be another, financial info would be another, av listings would be another, etc.  But they choose to run 4-5 sims a server, and only 1 single server for everything else?  I didn&#8217;t dare dream they&#8217;d be that stupid, yet here we are, in the endless barrage of pw resetting.</p>
<p>Hell, they even hosted the SECURITY questions and answers on the SAME server and THAT was hacked right after!</p>
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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/09/linden_labs_dat.html/comment-page-1#comment-41906</link>
		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating more unverified alt accounts will only lead you to your ban from SL for breaking ToS because you are not paying for another account, thus you&#039;re unverified.

Don&#039;t be a retard.

LL took the weekend off because their leader didn&#039;t want any Linden crew go talking about the disclosure and giving away more info... which is disclosures the disclosured info that hacker was able to pull from LL. Not only that, they need time to follow up a plan to deal with this whole &quot;security&quot; issue THAT NEVER HAPPENED to them before.  Sure, they were hacked before... but those had to do with the main grid, this whole database is a whole new different target.  Can&#039;t you imagine how much it will take to set up a whole phone calling network to take in more than 50 calls per hour? A lot, don&#039;t be stupid and go imagining that they are outside playing basketball game.

They are fed up with stupid people, this hack was choking them by just having the same stupid people bugging them even more after they heard about the attack.

It&#039;s like setting a firestation on fire, who&#039;s gonna wake up and call the firestation?
You can&#039;t... cause they&#039;re on fire, so put the phone down and go back to sleep.
I&#039;m sure they noticed the problem themselves.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating more unverified alt accounts will only lead you to your ban from SL for breaking ToS because you are not paying for another account, thus you&#8217;re unverified.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a retard.</p>
<p>LL took the weekend off because their leader didn&#8217;t want any Linden crew go talking about the disclosure and giving away more info&#8230; which is disclosures the disclosured info that hacker was able to pull from LL. Not only that, they need time to follow up a plan to deal with this whole &#8220;security&#8221; issue THAT NEVER HAPPENED to them before.  Sure, they were hacked before&#8230; but those had to do with the main grid, this whole database is a whole new different target.  Can&#8217;t you imagine how much it will take to set up a whole phone calling network to take in more than 50 calls per hour? A lot, don&#8217;t be stupid and go imagining that they are outside playing basketball game.</p>
<p>They are fed up with stupid people, this hack was choking them by just having the same stupid people bugging them even more after they heard about the attack.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like setting a firestation on fire, who&#8217;s gonna wake up and call the firestation?<br />
You can&#8217;t&#8230; cause they&#8217;re on fire, so put the phone down and go back to sleep.<br />
I&#8217;m sure they noticed the problem themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: GridSpy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>GridSpy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Second Lifes 650,000 user database compromised&lt;/strong&gt;

Linden Lab, the San Francisco-based company behind the Second Life site, said in a letter to its 650,000 users this weekend that its customer database, including names, addresses, passwords and some credit card data, had been compromised....
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<p>Linden Lab, the San Francisco-based company behind the Second Life site, said in a letter to its 650,000 users this weekend that its customer database, including names, addresses, passwords and some credit card data, had been compromised&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically enough,  LL gave the hackers the tools to go after people who are verified, which is in our in world profiles.  Thanks LL for making it so easy for thieves and idiots to know who is verified and who&#039;s info to get.  We wouldn&#039;t want them wasting time on the unverifieds now would we.   BRAVFUCKINGO!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically enough,  LL gave the hackers the tools to go after people who are verified, which is in our in world profiles.  Thanks LL for making it so easy for thieves and idiots to know who is verified and who&#8217;s info to get.  We wouldn&#8217;t want them wasting time on the unverifieds now would we.   BRAVFUCKINGO!!</p>
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		<title>By: M W</title>
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		<dc:creator>M W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way LL has reacted by turning off thier customer service and taking a weekend off shows how far this company has to go before SL will be taken seriously.

They should have contacted members via email. Not everyone reads the Blog.

I am still unable to login my account since they lost my verification question. This action has cost me possible L$1000s due to lost fees and trading.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way LL has reacted by turning off thier customer service and taking a weekend off shows how far this company has to go before SL will be taken seriously.</p>
<p>They should have contacted members via email. Not everyone reads the Blog.</p>
<p>I am still unable to login my account since they lost my verification question. This action has cost me possible L$1000s due to lost fees and trading.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Jenns</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/09/linden_labs_dat.html/comment-page-1#comment-41902</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Jenns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Good example of how any sense of humour or irony or satire is absolutely missing from the FIC.

Still going on about the FIC then ? lololol starting to look like a kid that wasnt invited to the birthday party.

Back to the topic though, and well in my eyes - as bad as the situation is, thumbs up to LL for making it very damn clear whats happened and trying to make everyone aware how serious the situation is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Good example of how any sense of humour or irony or satire is absolutely missing from the FIC.</p>
<p>Still going on about the FIC then ? lololol starting to look like a kid that wasnt invited to the birthday party.</p>
<p>Back to the topic though, and well in my eyes &#8211; as bad as the situation is, thumbs up to LL for making it very damn clear whats happened and trying to make everyone aware how serious the situation is.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I&#039;m afraid your premise is flawed here. Linden Lab didn&#039;t disclose anyone&#039;s information: disclosure is a voluntary action.

Good example of how any sense of humour or irony or satire is absolutely missing from the FIC.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>I&#8217;m afraid your premise is flawed here. Linden Lab didn&#8217;t disclose anyone&#8217;s information: disclosure is a voluntary action.</p>
<p>Good example of how any sense of humour or irony or satire is absolutely missing from the FIC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Vaught</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Vaught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hah!  This is a great story.  Thanks for the humor.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hah!  This is a great story.  Thanks for the humor.</p>
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