Comments on: Lindens Violate DMCA, Spam 828,653+ Citizens With Unlicensed “Big Rip Jeans”

By: Nacon

Nacon — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:31:22 +0000

Pixeleen Mistral… It doesn’t mean that each 828,653+ Citizens has one. ONLY if you dragged the pants out of the library, into your own inventory folder.

It WAS in the “open for grab” moment. The real question is how many people has grabbed one?

For the love of god, quit writing poor articles. And stop attacking Linden,
if they go down, your job goes DOWN along with it. Go pass a college.

By: Hiro Pendragon

Hiro Pendragon — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 04:38:26 +0000

“To say that it’s only there if you log in and access it is like saying none of my inventory is there unless I log in and access it. Silly.”

If spam is never seen by your mailbox or spamfilter, is it ever really spam? Your “Inventory” is specifically differently labeled from the “Library”, as evidenced by the picture.
The same concept goes for real libraries. Do I own Moby Dick just because I can go to my local library and get a copy anytime? No.
Do I own every mp3 on iTunes before I pay for them? No.
If there is a security hole in software, but it’s patched before very many people crack it, does this mean everyone’s data is stolen? No. Exposed? Maybe.

Let’s call a spade a spade:

Spam is a conscious attempt to make unsolicited business offer or make a statement via electronic messaging. This was neither. It was a goof.

Inventory is inventory, library is library.

Oh, and Linden TOS still allow them to use any item for promotional use and they don’t guarantee the solidity of any item. But that was neglected to be mentioned, either.

And accusing someone of a criminal or tort-liable act that is untrue, in written form, is libel.

By: Random Writer

Random Writer — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:56:18 +0000

You say I spout, k… show me where it says LL is making no profit that isn’t in a ‘blog’. LL taking on investors isn’t exactly proof. Many companies take on multiple investors in hopes of larger returns. Doesn’t mean the company is bankrupt, broke, operating in the red or anything of the sort. In fact, investing is a gamble. You pay a lil money now in hopes that the money comes back multiplied. People don’t just give away that kind of money.

Other than the obvious reasons on how LL is making profits, the fact it IS drawing investors with all the current in-world issues (common sense tells me these guys wouldn’t take advice to invest in a company operating seriously in the red), and a search otherwise, that included profits (other than listing LL as a privately held, for profit company), nothing out there that isn’t a blog has been produced to show they are continually losing money every month.

I can find plenty of articles claiming LL earns a profit, but I wouldn’t reference them without doing an extensive search on the motives, which I can’t do right at the second, but would be more than happy to later.

By: Prokofy Neva

Prokofy Neva — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 07:57:42 +0000

Oh, Hiro, go away, you’re so tiresome. There’s no libel here, there’s robust critical commentary. And hey, let the paid Linden evangelizers and flak-catchers do the work of countering hype on the Herald, eh? You’re way too long in the tooth now to go on being a hyperventilating little fanboy.

If the Lindens drop something into the library, it IS in every avatar’s inventory. It’s there. To say that it’s only there if you log in and access it is like saying none of my inventory is there unless I log in and access it. Silly.

By: Hiro Pendragon

Hiro Pendragon — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 01:19:31 +0000

It’s the Library, as evidenced by your own pictures. Please retract your misleading statements that it was “in every resident’s inventory”. Truly, every resident had access. And, even if you go with the most extreme numbers, you’d have to find out how many residents have actually logged on in the past 24 or 48 hours to see who even had an opportunity, which is at least a decimal point shift worth of error on your part.

Yes, it’s a big blunder on LL’s part, but this article is simply beyond exagerration – it’s libel.

By: Poindexter

Poindexter — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:42:15 +0000

You can guffaw like a braying moron all you like @ random, but the fact is that LL is surviving purely on venture capital and investor funding at this point. They can only realize a profit by driving up the volume of users. Unfortunately, their technology is aging and glitch prone, and with promising new competitors entering this market soon, the future is not so bright for LL.

Try doing some research on company financials, so next time you won’t have to illustrate to the entire thread just how uninformed you really are.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 22:30:13 +0000

@Random Writer:

Actually, they are truely not making any profit whatsoever. I dont even think they break even. However, their profit is getting closer and closer to a positive percent that LL will soon stop relying on those multimillion dollar grants and make some real money.

By: AF

AF — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:18:49 +0000

No Big Rip Jeans in my inventory. I’d like to see a follow up story on the wad of $L Spearmann made after this sensationalist story hit. What excellent advertising for him. Though I’m curious if someone got away with a free pair of jeans by simply renaming them? Linden’s probably removed it by key id though.

By: Lilith

Lilith — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:31:48 +0000

Hi Pixeleen Mistral! I need to talk to you. Add me on YIM

By: Random Writer

Random Writer — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:45:20 +0000

*snip from Poindexter*
Linden lab is not even a profitable company *snip*

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA MUAHHAAHAHAAHAH!!!

You’re kidding right? Do you honestly believe that and use it for the basis of an argument? You really think LL is here for our amusement only and isn’t turning a profit?

And you aren’t any better than the infraction whiners. You are complaining and them complaining. That’s worse IMO.