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	<title>Comments on: W-Hats Visit Reuters</title>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41785</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, gosh, Huns, wrong-o.

Your friends Borkrn Partch and Zombified Irwin are now *gone* from the People List.

I doubt it was because I abuse-reported Borkrn a dozen times for various petty forms of harassment -- how could I prove he was a grid-crasher?

I didn&#039;t even abuse-report them for this harassment at Reuters, since I figured, well, if somebody wants to stand around the Reuters sim, which I view as a public commons since they created a public discussion area, and make the public discussion be about Plastic Duck hand-puppets talking about grid-crashing, well, who am I to judge free speech, eh?

Yet, they&#039;re gone from the list. No thanks to you! Imagine that!

There&#039;s no thoughtless path; there is you as a griefing &quot;magnate&quot; and &quot;magnet&quot; too. You apologize for people who are banned...for cause. And not on my say-so.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, gosh, Huns, wrong-o.</p>
<p>Your friends Borkrn Partch and Zombified Irwin are now *gone* from the People List.</p>
<p>I doubt it was because I abuse-reported Borkrn a dozen times for various petty forms of harassment &#8212; how could I prove he was a grid-crasher?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even abuse-report them for this harassment at Reuters, since I figured, well, if somebody wants to stand around the Reuters sim, which I view as a public commons since they created a public discussion area, and make the public discussion be about Plastic Duck hand-puppets talking about grid-crashing, well, who am I to judge free speech, eh?</p>
<p>Yet, they&#8217;re gone from the list. No thanks to you! Imagine that!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no thoughtless path; there is you as a griefing &#8220;magnate&#8221; and &#8220;magnet&#8221; too. You apologize for people who are banned&#8230;for cause. And not on my say-so.</p>
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		<title>By: Huns Valens</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41784</link>
		<dc:creator>Huns Valens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prokofy,

You say that I need to denounce people and actions. Actually I do not. I don&#039;t need to prove anything to people who think I&#039;m some kind of griefing magnate. For one thing, I seriously doubt that there are many people who believe that in the first place. For another, if they do, it will only be because they have listened to second, third, and fourth hand accounts from people with at least partially unknown motivations.

If someone reaches a conclusion from an essentially thoughtless path, such as stupidly believing what the Prokofy Nevas of the world have to say without investigating matters for themselves, then their opinions, built of nothing but habit and laziness, are not worth taking seriously.

I bite my thumb at thee.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prokofy,</p>
<p>You say that I need to denounce people and actions. Actually I do not. I don&#8217;t need to prove anything to people who think I&#8217;m some kind of griefing magnate. For one thing, I seriously doubt that there are many people who believe that in the first place. For another, if they do, it will only be because they have listened to second, third, and fourth hand accounts from people with at least partially unknown motivations.</p>
<p>If someone reaches a conclusion from an essentially thoughtless path, such as stupidly believing what the Prokofy Nevas of the world have to say without investigating matters for themselves, then their opinions, built of nothing but habit and laziness, are not worth taking seriously.</p>
<p>I bite my thumb at thee.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerian Bunin</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41783</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerian Bunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok, god mode no longer works, nor does the menu even exist.  It was replaced by the client and server menu, and the show on map feature doesnt work for residents.  People probably find you because it isn&#039;t hard to work out where you might be.
I was in Reuters off and on all day, and they were there early as well.  Fiends device would almost positively use a sensor which is limited to 96m so just because they didn&#039;t show on that sensor device doesnt mean they wern&#039;t there.  Honestly I fail to see how someone talking with hand puppets is newsworthy.
Much ado about nothing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok, god mode no longer works, nor does the menu even exist.  It was replaced by the client and server menu, and the show on map feature doesnt work for residents.  People probably find you because it isn&#8217;t hard to work out where you might be.<br />
I was in Reuters off and on all day, and they were there early as well.  Fiends device would almost positively use a sensor which is limited to 96m so just because they didn&#8217;t show on that sensor device doesnt mean they wern&#8217;t there.  Honestly I fail to see how someone talking with hand puppets is newsworthy.<br />
Much ado about nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41782</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiend, you may find yourself endlessly in a word-salad marathon with these creeps (see the numerous backing and forthing between Major Senior and myself in the comments on Pixeleen&#039;s story about Satyr&#039;s forced closure). This is how they do it, as you can see -- they endlessly literalize, parse, distract, obfuscate -- and bald-face lie.

These people are the alts of the other people who used to harass me -- their M.O.s, speech patterns, spellings are all the same. But of course they always have that old &quot;plausible deniability&quot;.

These are malicious intelligences at work, of varying degrees of skill.

Baba acts pretend-aghast at the concept of griefers *gasp* getting into libsecondlife *gasp* and claims he has nothing to do with these people, but then gosh, gee whiz, there he is ganging around with them on the Reuters sim.

It&#039;s possible they came on the sim by themselves, to harangue people there like they do other venues, such as a recent community round table where they were out in full force, and it is also quite possible they stalked me. We&#039;ll never know, will we? I&#039;m told by Lindens that god-mode, that resident-scripted thingie that enabled god-mode, no longer works. I await confirmation of that. I suspect it doesn&#039;t. Why? Because I&#039;ve suddenly been treated to a rash of 0-day newbies lately coming up and force-friending me. Because I often have a string of a dozen IMs going from customers all over, some wanting to be friends so they can find me regarding rentals, my default is usually to accept friendship requestsj. But of course, I then double back later and see, whoops, some of &quot;my new friends&quot; are being banned for griefing by my tenants themselves, or I see them in the company of these creeps, or I figure out from their other groups what they&#039;re up to. So one of these force-friends is the conduit through which they stalk me.

Huns Valen is indeed a central apologist for these people, his centralized, avid, apologist activities are their best organizing and recruiting support out there. When Huns can bring himself not only to denounce, but disassociate himself, from this activity from groups he supports tacitly and below the radar, or through actual appearances at victory dances and such, then we might find credible his protestations that he is uninvolved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiend, you may find yourself endlessly in a word-salad marathon with these creeps (see the numerous backing and forthing between Major Senior and myself in the comments on Pixeleen&#8217;s story about Satyr&#8217;s forced closure). This is how they do it, as you can see &#8212; they endlessly literalize, parse, distract, obfuscate &#8212; and bald-face lie.</p>
<p>These people are the alts of the other people who used to harass me &#8212; their M.O.s, speech patterns, spellings are all the same. But of course they always have that old &#8220;plausible deniability&#8221;.</p>
<p>These are malicious intelligences at work, of varying degrees of skill.</p>
<p>Baba acts pretend-aghast at the concept of griefers *gasp* getting into libsecondlife *gasp* and claims he has nothing to do with these people, but then gosh, gee whiz, there he is ganging around with them on the Reuters sim.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible they came on the sim by themselves, to harangue people there like they do other venues, such as a recent community round table where they were out in full force, and it is also quite possible they stalked me. We&#8217;ll never know, will we? I&#8217;m told by Lindens that god-mode, that resident-scripted thingie that enabled god-mode, no longer works. I await confirmation of that. I suspect it doesn&#8217;t. Why? Because I&#8217;ve suddenly been treated to a rash of 0-day newbies lately coming up and force-friending me. Because I often have a string of a dozen IMs going from customers all over, some wanting to be friends so they can find me regarding rentals, my default is usually to accept friendship requestsj. But of course, I then double back later and see, whoops, some of &#8220;my new friends&#8221; are being banned for griefing by my tenants themselves, or I see them in the company of these creeps, or I figure out from their other groups what they&#8217;re up to. So one of these force-friends is the conduit through which they stalk me.</p>
<p>Huns Valen is indeed a central apologist for these people, his centralized, avid, apologist activities are their best organizing and recruiting support out there. When Huns can bring himself not only to denounce, but disassociate himself, from this activity from groups he supports tacitly and below the radar, or through actual appearances at victory dances and such, then we might find credible his protestations that he is uninvolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Zombified Irwin</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41781</link>
		<dc:creator>Zombified Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then your object clearly doesn&#039;t work, or you just weren&#039;t watching it. We were standing on top of the roof in the corner of the sim talking to Baba and a few other residents when Prok came in. Borkn noticed the arrival of a few new notable people such as Adam and Prok so we all ventured there to check out what was going on. That&#039;s the truth, no matter how much you want to spin it out of context.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then your object clearly doesn&#8217;t work, or you just weren&#8217;t watching it. We were standing on top of the roof in the corner of the sim talking to Baba and a few other residents when Prok came in. Borkn noticed the arrival of a few new notable people such as Adam and Prok so we all ventured there to check out what was going on. That&#8217;s the truth, no matter how much you want to spin it out of context.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiend Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41780</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiend Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Zombieifed Irwin - you and your colleagues were not in the Reuters sim before Prok arrived. I was there for about 10 minutes before this event, chatting with Adam Reuters and exploring the sim. I have a gadget reports avatars in the same sim as me, and you were not reported, nor were you any of you indicated by the tell-tale green dots on the mini-map I had open in my HUD for the entire visit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Zombieifed Irwin &#8211; you and your colleagues were not in the Reuters sim before Prok arrived. I was there for about 10 minutes before this event, chatting with Adam Reuters and exploring the sim. I have a gadget reports avatars in the same sim as me, and you were not reported, nor were you any of you indicated by the tell-tale green dots on the mini-map I had open in my HUD for the entire visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerian Bunin</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41779</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerian Bunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Reuters like all day and I missed this :(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Reuters like all day and I missed this <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Huns Valens</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41778</link>
		<dc:creator>Huns Valens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amused that you think I&#039;m some kind of central coordinator for all griefing in Second Life.
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		<title>By: Zombified Irwin</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41777</link>
		<dc:creator>Zombified Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really now this is blowing something silly out of proportion. Like I said,  this is the only second time i&#039;ve ever seen Prok inworld, and we didn&#039;t purposely &#039;teleport in&#039; to her, we were in the sim beforehand. The entire exchange took one minute then Prokofy walked away and we left her alone.

As usual though, Prok goes on an insane rant and proclaims us all as the same people who are crashing the grid, destroying residents homes and constantly harrassing her daily. Sure we joke about it alot (who doesn&#039;t like attention) but really now, if you can&#039;t see the humour in a silly exchange with a plastic duck handpuppet there is something seriously wrong with you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really now this is blowing something silly out of proportion. Like I said,  this is the only second time i&#8217;ve ever seen Prok inworld, and we didn&#8217;t purposely &#8216;teleport in&#8217; to her, we were in the sim beforehand. The entire exchange took one minute then Prokofy walked away and we left her alone.</p>
<p>As usual though, Prok goes on an insane rant and proclaims us all as the same people who are crashing the grid, destroying residents homes and constantly harrassing her daily. Sure we joke about it alot (who doesn&#8217;t like attention) but really now, if you can&#8217;t see the humour in a silly exchange with a plastic duck handpuppet there is something seriously wrong with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Baba</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/10/what_visits_reu.html/comment-page-1#comment-41776</link>
		<dc:creator>Baba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They stay in the group because libSLers get tons of chicks
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