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	<title>Comments on: Op/Ed: RL Press Needs to Respect SL Identities</title>
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		<title>By: Percocet.</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/rl_and_sl_ident.html/comment-page-1#comment-40662</link>
		<dc:creator>Percocet.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Percocet dependency.&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Percocet dependency.</strong></p>
<p>Difference between percocet and vicaden. Side effects of percocet. Percocet. Pictures of percocet. Percocet for anxiety.</p>
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		<title>By: Eloise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prove I&#039;m not Pix? Well no. You&#039;ve spoken to me enough over the years, and I suspect to Pix too to have a strong opinion that either I&#039;ve got MPD, I&#039;m actually out to get you personally and have undertaken a two year+ campaign to do that, or that we&#039;re different people.

But... just for the sake of argument, just how would you suggest we do it? Even getting two people into the same room claiming to be Pix and I IRL could easily enough be faked. Anything short of that is even easier to fix.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prove I&#8217;m not Pix? Well no. You&#8217;ve spoken to me enough over the years, and I suspect to Pix too to have a strong opinion that either I&#8217;ve got MPD, I&#8217;m actually out to get you personally and have undertaken a two year+ campaign to do that, or that we&#8217;re different people.</p>
<p>But&#8230; just for the sake of argument, just how would you suggest we do it? Even getting two people into the same room claiming to be Pix and I IRL could easily enough be faked. Anything short of that is even easier to fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Tateru Nino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tateru Nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the interesting things is that quite a number of the journalists suggested I just make an RL name up - because nobody would check it, and everyone would be happy. Well, everyone except me, I guess.

Feels kind of like having a &#039;porn name&#039;. I fail to see any actual increase in credibility from being encouraged to provide a pseudonym on top of my SL name.

&quot;In real life, Tateru Nino is really Jerk Harder, a fifty-five year old hermaphrodite trucker from Virginia, with a body-hair problem.&quot;

Actually, that might have a little mileage in it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the interesting things is that quite a number of the journalists suggested I just make an RL name up &#8211; because nobody would check it, and everyone would be happy. Well, everyone except me, I guess.</p>
<p>Feels kind of like having a &#8216;porn name&#8217;. I fail to see any actual increase in credibility from being encouraged to provide a pseudonym on top of my SL name.</p>
<p>&#8220;In real life, Tateru Nino is really Jerk Harder, a fifty-five year old hermaphrodite trucker from Virginia, with a body-hair problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, that might have a little mileage in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/rl_and_sl_ident.html/comment-page-1#comment-40659</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Hey everybody... Eloise Pastuer wrote this Op/Ed piece, not me. I just happened to be the editor who posted it.

Hey, Pixeleen and Eloise -- Prove that you are not merely the alts of somebody&#039;s main, whom we do not know the RL name of *shrugs*.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Hey everybody&#8230; Eloise Pastuer wrote this Op/Ed piece, not me. I just happened to be the editor who posted it.</p>
<p>Hey, Pixeleen and Eloise &#8212; Prove that you are not merely the alts of somebody&#8217;s main, whom we do not know the RL name of *shrugs*.</p>
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		<title>By: Eloise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok: Mr. Bovington of RRR was shown in the flesh and apparently quite happily. Although I don&#039;t know who the third person interviewed was, the voice was clearly not the same one. The report was on the main evening news and run by the business affairs correspondent. Most of the world consider BBC News to be a reputable reporting organisation. Perhaps the media aren&#039;t as clear cut on this as you are.

Hiro: I think being employed by someone is different to being on the news. I&#039;ve done both IRL, although admitedly my appearance on the news was ages ago, during a visit by the Queen to my then home town when I was a child. I expect to have an ongoing relationship with an employer, and a very fleeting relationship with the news. As you&#039;ve said there are also legal considerations about employing someone that may require full real life names.

I&#039;m not sure I want the press to be honest. I&#039;m never going to be the &quot;shock, horror&quot; exposé writer, because I don&#039;t write the hyperbole and don&#039;t ever read it. We do, however, seem to have the press appearing, and starting to trample the TOS.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok: Mr. Bovington of RRR was shown in the flesh and apparently quite happily. Although I don&#8217;t know who the third person interviewed was, the voice was clearly not the same one. The report was on the main evening news and run by the business affairs correspondent. Most of the world consider BBC News to be a reputable reporting organisation. Perhaps the media aren&#8217;t as clear cut on this as you are.</p>
<p>Hiro: I think being employed by someone is different to being on the news. I&#8217;ve done both IRL, although admitedly my appearance on the news was ages ago, during a visit by the Queen to my then home town when I was a child. I expect to have an ongoing relationship with an employer, and a very fleeting relationship with the news. As you&#8217;ve said there are also legal considerations about employing someone that may require full real life names.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I want the press to be honest. I&#8217;m never going to be the &#8220;shock, horror&#8221; exposé writer, because I don&#8217;t write the hyperbole and don&#8217;t ever read it. We do, however, seem to have the press appearing, and starting to trample the TOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;But obviously Prok knows better than BBC News the need to link avies to RL names.

yes, I do, because that&#039;s how most newspapers of record behave, including the Times and the Post. Perhaps BBC was massaged into this position by Justin Bovington of RRR, and perhaps in their tech section they could get away with reporting on the silly game antics, but serious articles will want to have your name.

Of course, you can have the option of not linking the avatar and RL names with some newspapers if you give them your real name and say, I wish not to have it used but my avatar&#039;s name can be used. But that means you may not be used. Most journalists will not want to use you. The Times will be one of them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>But obviously Prok knows better than BBC News the need to link avies to RL names.</p>
<p>yes, I do, because that&#8217;s how most newspapers of record behave, including the Times and the Post. Perhaps BBC was massaged into this position by Justin Bovington of RRR, and perhaps in their tech section they could get away with reporting on the silly game antics, but serious articles will want to have your name.</p>
<p>Of course, you can have the option of not linking the avatar and RL names with some newspapers if you give them your real name and say, I wish not to have it used but my avatar&#8217;s name can be used. But that means you may not be used. Most journalists will not want to use you. The Times will be one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiro Pendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiro Pendragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m of a different opinion. Media agencies have a resposibility to readers to provide fact-checked, reliable information. They simply can not assure that without having the information (published or not). If you want the press, be prepared to be transparent with the media.

As a side note, I find a strong correlation between people who let drama get the best of them in SL and people who don&#039;t like to provide their real identity. People who are more easy-going and transparent with their identity tend to be regularly far more professional than those who don&#039;t.

As a business, I flat out will not hire anyone who can&#039;t provide real info. (though, there are additional legal reasons for that as well)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of a different opinion. Media agencies have a resposibility to readers to provide fact-checked, reliable information. They simply can not assure that without having the information (published or not). If you want the press, be prepared to be transparent with the media.</p>
<p>As a side note, I find a strong correlation between people who let drama get the best of them in SL and people who don&#8217;t like to provide their real identity. People who are more easy-going and transparent with their identity tend to be regularly far more professional than those who don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As a business, I flat out will not hire anyone who can&#8217;t provide real info. (though, there are additional legal reasons for that as well)</p>
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		<title>By: Pixeleen Mistral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixeleen Mistral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everybody... Eloise Pastuer wrote this Op/Ed piece, not me. I just happened to be the editor who posted it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everybody&#8230; Eloise Pastuer wrote this Op/Ed piece, not me. I just happened to be the editor who posted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Petey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit.

For once, Prokofy is right.

Acknowledging a disparity between your second life account and your actual person is necessary, for without such recognizance your rationality is diminished.

That said:

The last thing y&#039;all want is the Feds to come in and regulate SL. I know thats what Linden Labs thinks they want, but that&#039;s just stupid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit.</p>
<p>For once, Prokofy is right.</p>
<p>Acknowledging a disparity between your second life account and your actual person is necessary, for without such recognizance your rationality is diminished.</p>
<p>That said:</p>
<p>The last thing y&#8217;all want is the Feds to come in and regulate SL. I know thats what Linden Labs thinks they want, but that&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad McConachie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tad McConachie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree Pix.  As a very fledgling member of the SL press, I have no interest or really any need whatsoever for the RL details of SL residents that I talk with.  In most cases those details will detract from what I&#039;m writing.

SL is surreal enough by itself.  Having the RL press covering events that happen in a virtual world and then demanding information that links residents back to the real world seems to just be stepping over a line.  What happens when slLib or whoever succeeds at creating autonomous bot NPC avatars that make news?  Will the New York Times refer to them by their creator&#039;s name?

I&#039;m of the opinion though, that if the RL continues to wish to cover SL they will eventually learn to abide by our strange rules and customs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree Pix.  As a very fledgling member of the SL press, I have no interest or really any need whatsoever for the RL details of SL residents that I talk with.  In most cases those details will detract from what I&#8217;m writing.</p>
<p>SL is surreal enough by itself.  Having the RL press covering events that happen in a virtual world and then demanding information that links residents back to the real world seems to just be stepping over a line.  What happens when slLib or whoever succeeds at creating autonomous bot NPC avatars that make news?  Will the New York Times refer to them by their creator&#8217;s name?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion though, that if the RL continues to wish to cover SL they will eventually learn to abide by our strange rules and customs.</p>
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