Just because you don’t get along with a variety of different people doesn’t mean that they’re in a massive Anti-Baglady Illuminati scheming and plotting to ruin your virtual playtime dollhouse revue.

LOL you gotta love how these word-salad men chop up the tomatoes.

CopyBot was deployed by v-5 — and if in fact there is only Baba or Eddy or the libsecondlifers who claim they are NOT v-5 doing this — then the collusion was intense, and they took opensourced stuff knowingly and with collusion by Libsl to menace and harass and scare the world.

Libsecondlife and v-5 — separated at birth? or joined at the hip. You decide. The relationship is as close as your own jugular vein.

They ban them for concrete actions. Of which there were plenty. I know because I abuse-reported them, as did others.

I don’t have to spin a single thread, it’s you who are engaged in spinning the Big Lie. Yes, 300 people DO need to be watched when hundreds of alts have come and gone and all of them have been involved in griefing, and very clearly documented griefing, and not by me, by many others, and of course verified by Lindens.

Nobody should be buying the Bolshevik myth perpetrated by w-hat and Arahan Claveau and others that this group is somehow a victim of “guilty by association”.

Instead, they’ve been called to account, and the world is better for it.

My problem is the fact that myself, and 60 other residents, are being blamed (with alleged criminal charges) for the actions of 2 people who were the ones crashing the grid, without any evidence to the contrary. I know this because they were infact once members of Voted 5, but were not in collusion with us and were excommunicated from the group by yours truly when they went on a spree of taking advantage of shared to group objects. I attempted to share these details with Linden Labs, but as usual got no response

And for all your ‘Group accountability’ nonsense, there were 300+ residents in Voted 5. Do you expect me and the other officers to keep tabs on every one of these residents and make sure they’re doing the right thing? Of course not. Both V5 and w-hat were free to join, all you needed to do was provide proof of a Somethingawful account. Griefing was discouraged for the most part,
and if anything got out of hand members were ejected from the group. (This of course depends on your definition of griefing, as we enjoyed being cheeky with mild pranks, as well building as controversial builds. I won’t deny this.)

But this is all old hat and plenty of other goons have gone over this ground a million times and I just wanted to give my side of the story. However you’re too stubborn to listen to reason and will instead pass it off as word salad.

I can now see why people love to argue with you Prok,
It’s like you note down everything wrong that’s happened in Second Life and attribute it to a single person or group, then continue to tally these up one on top of each, pulling connections out of thin air and creating outright lies to justify your argument. You then spin this giant katamari of spite filled words and half cocked theories and crush every blog, forum and poor person willing to listen to it within your path.

Now you’re saying libsecondlife and V5 are in cahoots in some mass orchestrated scam to build Copybot? I love you Prok. Please don’t ever change.

Normally i wouldn’t use such a stupid exaggerated comparison, but i bet you think playing harmless pranks on people is SL is worse than killing people in the real world anyway.

Oh? And you know that…how? You have god-like powers you’ve hacked and reverse-engineered to see the inner workings of LL?

And since you were guilty of event griefing and harassment such as what you did coming and putting your avatar on me and taking pictures and verbally harassing while I was AFK and back present, I think it’s quite likely that you racked up a lot of ARs besides a Power Rangers outfit.

No word-salad, no Eddie Haskell, NO SALE.

Lindens ban people for CAUSE. These hippie liberals waited a year to ban your sorry asses despite having ample ARs sent in repeatedly.

As for “guilt by association,” I call it something different: group accountability.

when libsecondlife and v-5 have dozens of people constantly event-griefing, harassing, bothering, dropping prims, etc. etc. and then they are also tied to grid crashing, I don’;t see why we owe them some kind of “innocent until proven guilty” *when they refuse to disassociate themselves from these antics*.

After dozens of people, their alts, and their alts’ alts keep perpetrating the same kind of offenses, it’s a fairly safe bet that you can speak of “a group”. They all sing as one choir from the same choir sheet when you catch them in the IRC or on their own channel in libsecondlife.

There’s PLENTY of solid proof that you and others that are going around bleating about unfair banning. You’re forgetting that all your whoop-ups and hootenannies and victory-dancies go on tape to the Lindens, they hear and see all. Freak, unsettling, but if you are repeatedly bad, well you can’t blame them for botting you out and continue to expect us to buy this bullshit.

The crocodile tears in Baku and Satyr don’t fool anybody anymore.We’re at the point now that we can safely determine what this group is — a hardened, networked, planned, and malicious group that perpetrates acts over and over against Second Life and engages in constant denial and effort to distract from its bad deeds.

Uhh… You do of course remember the big stink when Voted 5 got banned? Accounts that had never so much as gotten a single abuse report or had not logged in for several months or more were banned. But of course you seem to think that they are all guilty by association.

But that’s besides the point. I won’t defend my actions, because I was a cheeky asshole at times and what I did was debatable in terms of it violating the TOS. However, even you are saying this should not be grounds for a permaban.

The Linden’s official reasoning of why I was banned was for selling a Power Ranger avatar, a violation of trademark, which I agree is a violation of the TOS. But was it permaban worthy? People do this all the time and Lindens look the other way. The fact of the matter was I was banned because I was an officer of Voted 5, and they wished to make an example of me as if it would spread a message. Several of the Lindens even confirmed this for me when I asked them.

I am not preaching that I was wrongfully banned. I am over the fact that I lost months of creations and real money I had earned through building and playing Second Life. I DO however resent having my personal details turned over to federal agencies and being treated like a criminal just because I associate myself with a bunch of people from a particular website, with no solid proof against those claims.

Um, we all know that if that is ALL you did, you wouldn’t be banned now, hon. But you are. On that account. And subsequent alts. So obviously you’ve done other stuff you aren’t admitting or recognizing and expecting us to be chumps and simply imagine that you’ve been wrongfully banned — when that’s not the case. You are banned for cause.

Stalking people, harassing them, putting your arm around them when AFK, that is the sort of thing that really does qualify as a TOS offense even with Linden liberals. But that wouldn’t be enough to get you banned permanently.

*spreading the GOO is what was meant there.