Comments on: The Euro Update Experience http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Random Writer http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41227 Random Writer Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:36:06 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41227 P.S. As for Zee's comments, he can say what he wants. Before the Herald even broke, I was in resident forums exposing him and his 'wonderful CFO' portfolio. He can say anything he wants, there is nothing forcing him to tell the truth. Besides, signups isn't the big draw for me anyways, it's active accounts. He just wants to show corporations that there's a worldwide audience. P.S. As for Zee’s comments, he can say what he wants. Before the Herald even broke, I was in resident forums exposing him and his ‘wonderful CFO’ portfolio. He can say anything he wants, there is nothing forcing him to tell the truth.

Besides, signups isn’t the big draw for me anyways, it’s active accounts. He just wants to show corporations that there’s a worldwide audience.

]]> By: Random Writer http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41226 Random Writer Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:33:35 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41226 US, even if it is 60%, then that leaves 40% of the world in about 12 other time zones (excluding the ocean time zones), as opposed to the US's 60% in 4. (Let's say they did do it 3pmSL time... that means Austrailia, is morning (I think, I'm foggy right now), and that means that the European daytime people get screwed out of 'their' daytime too. Frankly, I'm US and I play during the daytime, not at night because I have a family to take care of. I play mostly when my son is napping. So it DOES inconveinence me. Don't think that ALL US players are evening players. Not to mention that we are the ones that end up beta testing after the grid comes up anyways. Considering how dead SL is at 3am when it IS up (I've been on during insomnia nights)... it's a logical choice. No choice is going to make everyone happy all the the time, but considering American work hours (and the fact that once an update is issued, even if we see nothing wrong, they still have to run some checks) that already leads them into a late day. They do it during the evening only 1 night a week, and we are looking at them staying up past midnight in some cases. One of the updates was a problem, grid up and down for more than 12 hours. That means at 3pm SL time... they'd be up til 3 in the morning. Then turn around and have to come back in time to keep grid watch when the grid is most populated. US, even if it is 60%, then that leaves 40% of the world in about 12 other time zones (excluding the ocean time zones), as opposed to the US’s 60% in 4. (Let’s say they did do it 3pmSL time… that means Austrailia, is morning (I think, I’m foggy right now), and that means that the European daytime people get screwed out of ‘their’ daytime too.

Frankly, I’m US and I play during the daytime, not at night because I have a family to take care of. I play mostly when my son is napping. So it DOES inconveinence me. Don’t think that ALL US players are evening players. Not to mention that we are the ones that end up beta testing after the grid comes up anyways.

Considering how dead SL is at 3am when it IS up (I’ve been on during insomnia nights)… it’s a logical choice.

No choice is going to make everyone happy all the the time, but considering American work hours (and the fact that once an update is issued, even if we see nothing wrong, they still have to run some checks) that already leads them into a late day. They do it during the evening only 1 night a week, and we are looking at them staying up past midnight in some cases. One of the updates was a problem, grid up and down for more than 12 hours. That means at 3pm SL time… they’d be up til 3 in the morning. Then turn around and have to come back in time to keep grid watch when the grid is most populated.

]]> By: Hiro Queso http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41225 Hiro Queso Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:06:25 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41225 Artemis: A.) At the moment I agree with you, but if LL want to push SL to non-US residents as much as they appear to want to, they will need to re-think the 9-5 PST hours at some time in the near future. B.) As far as I am aware, US residents constitute around 60% of the whole*, which if roughly correct, isn't a figure you could really term 'vast'. With Zee's recent comment that 'international sign ups now exceed sign ups in the US', I think you will find US residents being in the minority sooner than you think. *does anyone have reliable stats or quotes? Artemis:

A.) At the moment I agree with you, but if LL want to push SL to non-US residents as much as they appear to want to, they will need to re-think the 9-5 PST hours at some time in the near future.

B.) As far as I am aware, US residents constitute around 60% of the whole*, which if roughly correct, isn’t a figure you could really term ‘vast’. With Zee’s recent comment that ‘international sign ups now exceed sign ups in the US’, I think you will find US residents being in the minority sooner than you think.

*does anyone have reliable stats or quotes?

]]> By: Artemis Fate http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41224 Artemis Fate Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:50:52 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41224 The problem you have here is that A.) LL which is based in American times, doesn't want to have to work a late shift so as not to disturb the minority group of non-US players, and it's harder to start later in the day because they always manage to fuck up something critical, and they want to have the rest of the day to fix their own mistakes i'd imagine. B.) Non-US players are still a minority of the vast majority of American players, so in terms of utilitarianism, it's better to have the lesser group of subscribers get shafted than the majority. Even if the Minority of non-US is getting very large, it's still a minority compared to the majority. The problem you have here is that

A.) LL which is based in American times, doesn’t want to have to work a late shift so as not to disturb the minority group of non-US players, and it’s harder to start later in the day because they always manage to fuck up something critical, and they want to have the rest of the day to fix their own mistakes i’d imagine.

B.) Non-US players are still a minority of the vast majority of American players, so in terms of utilitarianism, it’s better to have the lesser group of subscribers get shafted than the majority. Even if the Minority of non-US is getting very large, it’s still a minority compared to the majority.

]]> By: Lewis Nerd http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41223 Lewis Nerd Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:05:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41223 I've said all along that maintenance should be at different times so as to not inconvenience the same not insignificant group of residents every time. Europe gets shafted all the time. It's about time the US got some too. Lewis I’ve said all along that maintenance should be at different times so as to not inconvenience the same not insignificant group of residents every time.

Europe gets shafted all the time. It’s about time the US got some too.

Lewis

]]> By: Quantum Daikon http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41222 Quantum Daikon Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:44:39 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41222 I fully understand the reason why LL runs the update in US work hours (I wouldn't want to work one night every week or so)and when a major update is released it make sense to start the process in the morning so that any bugs in the update can be debugged in the afternoon. BUT, to give the Europeans a break, maybe a solution would be for the general maintenance and less risky upgrades to be started at about 3PM PST (11:00GMT). This would mean that the LL guys would only have one later evening finish every couple of weeks (which also means a sleep for them in next day :)). That seems like a fairer solution to me especially as SL is now going much more global and need to think more globally. Thx Quant I fully understand the reason why LL runs the update in US work hours (I wouldn’t want to work one night every week or so)and when a major update is released it make sense to start the process in the morning so that any bugs in the update can be debugged in the afternoon. BUT, to give the Europeans a break, maybe a solution would be for the general maintenance and less risky upgrades to be started at about 3PM PST (11:00GMT). This would mean that the LL guys would only have one later evening finish every couple of weeks (which also means a sleep for them in next day :) ). That seems like a fairer solution to me especially as SL is now going much more global and need to think more globally. Thx Quant

]]> By: Nicole Simon http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/11/the_euro_update.html/comment-page-1#comment-41221 Nicole Simon Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:20:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1798#comment-41221 It is my 'luck' that I actually find those times more atttractive than earlier ones, but yes, i hear you. An agency which has gotten more into Second Life in Germany has started to do a once a week chillout on their place (clever way to raise traffic, but I am sure they still want to provice soemting ;) and they placed it on a day which would be cool for this: Wednesday evening. Which of course is as you can guess the time ... they are now doing it forced on thursday ... I understand that there is not one time to actually do it right for everyone, but for the future and a planned expansion they should really rethink the approach. It is my ‘luck’ that I actually find those times more atttractive than earlier ones, but yes, i hear you.

An agency which has gotten more into Second Life in Germany has started to do a once a week chillout on their place (clever way to raise traffic, but I am sure they still want to provice soemting ;) and they placed it on a day which would be cool for this: Wednesday evening.

Which of course is as you can guess the time … they are now doing it forced on thursday …

I understand that there is not one time to actually do it right for everyone, but for the future and a planned expansion they should really rethink the approach.

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