One connection I consider is with my own Imago therapy (relationship therapy in a RL marriage). There an important theme is that in asymetrical relationships, generally each partner has “disowned” some part of their potential identity, and generally that they will be happier and more functional if they can reclaim the powers they have disowned. This seems an opposite approach to entering a Master/Slave relationship (as either Master or Slave), and yet from what I have reading it is obvious that people learn a lot about themselves by taking this approach.

I wonder are there people who switch from Master to Slave or vice versa? I can imagine becoming in touch with more parts of myself trying both roles than just one. But I suppose my approach is more about finding a Platonic ideal of an integrated man rather than letting run my true inner self as Master or Slave.

Your pictures with your post are charming. I read a modesty in your words that make your public display of your body more poignant. I imagine I have seen a part of what your mistress sees in the master slave relationship when I see that. Thank you for sharing

So maybe you haven’t displeased your mistress so much as what she thought you needed.

lol Artemis

“Actually, Honor is defined as a synonym for respect, something that gor characteristically lacks. What you’re describing is best defined as “fanaticism” something that is common with cults and religious extremists.”

Dictionary.com offers the following as one of its definitions:

1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one’s beliefs and actions: “a man of honor.”

There are others, and yes, the word “honor” can be used as a synonym of “respect” as well, as in “You honor me.” However, that is a different usage of the word entirely and really has nothing to do with what I was saying in the article.

“Alex: I think you seriously have the most comments on any Post 6 grrl ever ”

When I peeked in and saw the comments at 49, I almost fell out of my chair. O.O

“No one looks like she does on Gor. The fact that she does not know that, makes me not want to read anything she says or take anything she says good or bad, seriously.”

If you read my article, you’d know that I am aware of that fact, and you’d also understand what I had to say about it. I recommend going back and reading it this time so that you can post a relevant comment. Thanks! =)

“This shows a lack of understand of Gor. John Normal the author of the Gor books never stated that all women to some degree are slaves.”

From Hunters of Gor:

“For example, there is no higher person, nor one more respected, than the Gorean free woman. Even a slaver who has captured a free woman often treats her with great solicitude until she is branded. Then his behavior toward her is immediately and utterly transformed. She is then merely an animal, and treated as such. Goreans do believe, however, that every woman has a natural master or set of masters, with respect to whom she could not help but be a complete and passionate slave girl. These men occur in her dreams and fantasies …”

So which Gor books were YOU reading? Just curious.

“This is not true at all, in BSDM …”

What does this have to do with what I was talking about? I referred to D/s, which is Dominance/submission, and never to BDSM, which is something completely different. You basically used a very peculiar strawman argument that I think may be accidental and a result of not knowing the difference between D/s and BDSM. No offense meant, but that’s how it appears.

I don’t even know where to begin on how you addressed the four points I put at the end of my article. You so completely failed to grasp anything I said there that I honestly don’t know whether you COULD no matter how much I tried to explain. I’m sorry, but I just don’t know how to clarify it for you. Maybe if you IMed me in-world, I could attempt to explain, but I get the feeling it would take far too long here.

“The last point is that avi is not sexy at all. You look like something out of a comic book, perhaps that is why you have a Mistress and not a Master, you fail to recognize what pleases men.”

That’s interesting, since I can give you quite the list of men who disagree. I’ve even had a few attempt to buy me, but Mistress isn’t selling. But what difference does that make? I don’t have anything to prove to you. If you don’t find it attractive, that’s your business and your right. Just you might reconsider speaking for everyone else.

Also, I have no idea where in my article you got the idea that I get physical pleasure from being whipped for punishment. FYI: I do not. Being punished is not a “for fun” thing, and I do not take it as such. It means I’ve failed somehow, been displeasing somehow, and yes, believe it or not, that feels awful to me. The only pleasure I derive from it is feeling owned and mastered, but that doesn’t make me want to rush off and disobey some more. Quite the contrary.

“I have experienced feelings and sensations I never knew could exist. Inhibitions have been shattered, some of them commanded from me by strong men and the blows of the whip, I have learned to live and to feel. My emotions have been freed. My deepest sexuality and nature have on this world at last been fully liberated. I have found myself. I love and I serve. I now know at last what and who I am, a love slave for uncompromising masters.” Rogue

I dare call this ownage.

I am not a Gor, and I don’t condemn it, and I may not agree with it, but it’s not my place to judge others on how they want to live.

So for Alex… go get yours honey, what will matter in the end is if you lived your life (SL or RL) as you wanted and it made YOU happy. Usually the others who condemn how others want to live, are the ones who are not happy themselves.

There isn’t much debate on the numbers, it’s presented clearly in the books actually.

Secondly, you’ve totally missed the mark. It’s said in the books, that a woman knows true pleasure and full contentment when she is a slave and all the acts that go with it. Which includes ‘punishment’.

But since you want such clarity:

“”What does a slave girl want more than anything?”
“To please men.”
“What are you?”
“I am a slave girl.”
“What do you want more than anything?”
“To please men.”"” from Assassins of Gor

“”I knew then that he was dominant over me. This had nothing to do with the fact that I lay stripped before him, wrists and ankles lashed, his prisoner. It had to do with the fact that he was totally masculine, and in the presence of such a stimulus, my body would permit me to be only totally feminine.”" Captive of Gor

“”The aroused sexuality of the slave girl is surely the strongest of the chains with which she is bound…
“And you want more of them, don’t you?’ he asked. “Yes, Master,” I said, my eyes suddenly filling with tears. How helpless I was before such men. “And desperately so?” he said. “Yes, Master!” I wept. “You perhaps understand now,” he said, “that there is more to slavery than collars and chains.” ” Dancer

“”On Gor, the female slave, desiring her master, yet sometimes fearing to speak to him, frightened that she may be struck, has recourse upon occasion to certain devices, the meaning of which is generally established and culturally well understood. I shall mention two such devices. There is, first, the bondage knot. The bondage knot is a simple looped knot tied into the girl”s hair and worn at the side of her right cheek or before her right shoulder. The girl approaches the master naked and kneels, the bondage knot soft, curled, fallen at the side of her right cheek or before her right shoulder. ” Tribesman

“For the first time in my life I felt I understood what might be the meaning of the expression “male,” and as I lay before him, too, dimly, it frightening me, what might be the meaning of the expression “female.” How beautiful, I thought, I must look to him, lying bound, totally vulnerable, helpless at his feet. How such a sight must stir the splendor of his manhood, to see the female, his, caught, helpless at his feet, his to do with in lust and pleasure, and joy, as he pleased, helpless to escape him, free for him to work his will upon her!”" Slave Girl

“”"I have experienced feelings and sensations I never knew could exist. Inhibitions have been shattered, some of them commanded from me by strong men and the blows of the whip, I have learned to live and to feel. My emotions have been freed. My deepest sexuality and nature have on this world at last been fully liberated. I have found myself. I love and I serve. I now know at last what and who I am, a love slave for uncompromising masters.”"” Rogue

There’s PLENTY more passages, but it seems to me that these girl’s who are slaves, are in submission when ‘punished’ and are turned on by it, and even more so in the last few passages, directly addresses it.

Guess you don’t know everything after all. Apparently, you don’t understand. The biggest thing you misunderstand about Gor is that women who are slaves do not like aspects of being slaves. It’s written in the books, that when a woman becomes a slave, she knows true freedom and enjoys every aspect of being a slave, lest she not be a slave.