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	<title>Comments on: As Lindens Stand Down, SL SWAT Stands Up to Griefers.</title>
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		<title>By: Trexon Lyvette</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-73394</link>
		<dc:creator>Trexon Lyvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*bump*  well, it seem that not many of you have seen a real griefer.  If you want to see real griefing, go on down to Dover, to the furry club Castle Dark Haven. or IYC, that may be even worse.  Oh, and while youre at it, wear a human avi if you havent already.  My army, the Anti Azwar Alliance, AAA for short, is different not in tactics, but in purpose.  To put an end to the real griefers.  If you dont want hit, dont get between us and the targets. Thats all i have to say on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*bump*  well, it seem that not many of you have seen a real griefer.  If you want to see real griefing, go on down to Dover, to the furry club Castle Dark Haven. or IYC, that may be even worse.  Oh, and while youre at it, wear a human avi if you havent already.  My army, the Anti Azwar Alliance, AAA for short, is different not in tactics, but in purpose.  To put an end to the real griefers.  If you dont want hit, dont get between us and the targets. Thats all i have to say on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Coucher Chau</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39420</link>
		<dc:creator>Coucher Chau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very, very sad ...

In real life, common residents are not allowed to run around in police uniforms and misrepresent themselves as REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS--i.e., cops!

This all sucks, I am very disappointed those in authority in secondlife allow such pseudo-criminal activities.  Personally, I have been griefed to a much greater degree by those displaying &quot;S.L.P.D&quot; (or some other public servant misrepresenting text displayed about them) than by the real griefers themselves!

It is time for the Lindens to get tough on these bozos and ban them!

Regards,
(RL) John Smith

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very, very sad &#8230;</p>
<p>In real life, common residents are not allowed to run around in police uniforms and misrepresent themselves as REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS&#8211;i.e., cops!</p>
<p>This all sucks, I am very disappointed those in authority in secondlife allow such pseudo-criminal activities.  Personally, I have been griefed to a much greater degree by those displaying &#8220;S.L.P.D&#8221; (or some other public servant misrepresenting text displayed about them) than by the real griefers themselves!</p>
<p>It is time for the Lindens to get tough on these bozos and ban them!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
(RL) John Smith</p>
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		<title>By: random person</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39419</link>
		<dc:creator>random person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really sad. It&#039;s just a game, for God sakes. Why does everybody form all these stupid paramilitary groups anyway? They only do this for personal goals. STUPID!!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really sad. It&#8217;s just a game, for God sakes. Why does everybody form all these stupid paramilitary groups anyway? They only do this for personal goals. STUPID!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Broll</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39418</link>
		<dc:creator>Broll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Come on people, it&#039;s a game. LOL&quot;

I dont think so........ it&#039;s more of a mirror.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Come on people, it&#8217;s a game. LOL&#8221;</p>
<p>I dont think so&#8230;&#8230;.. it&#8217;s more of a mirror.</p>
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		<title>By: warm fuzzies</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39417</link>
		<dc:creator>warm fuzzies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Well this was all very interesting.  But except for one comment, no one really touched on a very obvious aspect to this.  That one comment was:

&quot;I consider it good that more groups exist to be available to those who wish for protection or enforcement. Having more groups who follow strict rules and perform a duty of service to those who ask for it would violate no rules but simply be a service.&quot; - Raideur


I do respect those who consider such service groups to be griefers.  I don&#039;t necessarily agree, but I won&#039;t argue.  However...

We are constantly told this is OUR world.  Except of course, when someone griefs you. Then if you dare to fight back the you might be banned yourself.  That&#039;s understandable because it&#039;s hard for LL to figure out who was griefing who.  Except you&#039;d think after a while certain users would build track records and the griefers would be known.  Except that of course LL allows ANYONE on the system with no particular ID requirements except a never-used email address, which allows griefers to conceivably set up dozens of ready-to-use alts, which makes them very difficult to patrol if no other security measures are in place.

BUT... if this is OUR world, then club owners, private land owners and home owners have every right to protect their property, don&#039;t they?  If a club owner puts up a sign that says &quot;Beware of Guard Dog&quot; and a griefer gets attacked by a scripted attack dog, hey, he&#039;s been warned right?

At the same time, if a club decides to hire a swat team member to act as a heavily-armed-bouncer and take care of the riff-raff, if it&#039;s OUR world, they have that right, yes?  It&#039;s their club.  They&#039;re paying for it.  So no matter how other people feel about it, they have no more say in it than anything else that goes on in the club.  Some might consider an onsite swat team as &quot;freedom of expression&quot;, just like they consider so many other things on SL.

Read the post from the Gunfighter rep above.  It&#039;s pretty obvious this guy is not working with a full deck and has to use weapons to try to prove his worth.  It is equally obvious he is going to attack anyone he wants to attack, for whatever imaginary reason (or just for the sheer meanness of it), and has no conscience at all regarding the matter.  So if a Swat team decides to hire itself out to protect people against such known-but-not-ousted griefers, then who is to say that club owners can&#039;t hire them?

It&#039;s an old conflict.  If LL doesn&#039;t protect people, do they have a right to protect themselves?  Does LL have enough anti-griefer staff to handle millions of users?  Do people have the right to play a part of SWAT members if they want to, and do other people have a right to hire them for protection?

Come on people, it&#039;s a game. LOL

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Well this was all very interesting.  But except for one comment, no one really touched on a very obvious aspect to this.  That one comment was:</p>
<p>&#8220;I consider it good that more groups exist to be available to those who wish for protection or enforcement. Having more groups who follow strict rules and perform a duty of service to those who ask for it would violate no rules but simply be a service.&#8221; &#8211; Raideur</p>
<p>I do respect those who consider such service groups to be griefers.  I don&#8217;t necessarily agree, but I won&#8217;t argue.  However&#8230;</p>
<p>We are constantly told this is OUR world.  Except of course, when someone griefs you. Then if you dare to fight back the you might be banned yourself.  That&#8217;s understandable because it&#8217;s hard for LL to figure out who was griefing who.  Except you&#8217;d think after a while certain users would build track records and the griefers would be known.  Except that of course LL allows ANYONE on the system with no particular ID requirements except a never-used email address, which allows griefers to conceivably set up dozens of ready-to-use alts, which makes them very difficult to patrol if no other security measures are in place.</p>
<p>BUT&#8230; if this is OUR world, then club owners, private land owners and home owners have every right to protect their property, don&#8217;t they?  If a club owner puts up a sign that says &#8220;Beware of Guard Dog&#8221; and a griefer gets attacked by a scripted attack dog, hey, he&#8217;s been warned right?</p>
<p>At the same time, if a club decides to hire a swat team member to act as a heavily-armed-bouncer and take care of the riff-raff, if it&#8217;s OUR world, they have that right, yes?  It&#8217;s their club.  They&#8217;re paying for it.  So no matter how other people feel about it, they have no more say in it than anything else that goes on in the club.  Some might consider an onsite swat team as &#8220;freedom of expression&#8221;, just like they consider so many other things on SL.</p>
<p>Read the post from the Gunfighter rep above.  It&#8217;s pretty obvious this guy is not working with a full deck and has to use weapons to try to prove his worth.  It is equally obvious he is going to attack anyone he wants to attack, for whatever imaginary reason (or just for the sheer meanness of it), and has no conscience at all regarding the matter.  So if a Swat team decides to hire itself out to protect people against such known-but-not-ousted griefers, then who is to say that club owners can&#8217;t hire them?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an old conflict.  If LL doesn&#8217;t protect people, do they have a right to protect themselves?  Does LL have enough anti-griefer staff to handle millions of users?  Do people have the right to play a part of SWAT members if they want to, and do other people have a right to hire them for protection?</p>
<p>Come on people, it&#8217;s a game. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Ziskey</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39416</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Ziskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;AN, SPARTA, AND MERCZ are at war with Commandos SL. We are much smaller then them and we are more prepared and better.... That is all I have to say....
-Captian Colbyson Kyomoon&quot;

Wow, despite you being a total moron for saying such stupid things, this is a very old article, why are you even commenting on it? Sparta will take you on any day, despite that you orbit and use other griefer weapons when you attack, while we do not.

Bruno Ziskey
King of Sparta
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AN, SPARTA, AND MERCZ are at war with Commandos SL. We are much smaller then them and we are more prepared and better&#8230;. That is all I have to say&#8230;.<br />
-Captian Colbyson Kyomoon&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, despite you being a total moron for saying such stupid things, this is a very old article, why are you even commenting on it? Sparta will take you on any day, despite that you orbit and use other griefer weapons when you attack, while we do not.</p>
<p>Bruno Ziskey<br />
King of Sparta</p>
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		<title>By: Colbyson Kyomoon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/as_lindens_stan.html/comment-page-1#comment-39415</link>
		<dc:creator>Colbyson Kyomoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AN, SPARTA, AND MERCZ are at war with Commandos SL. We are much smaller then them and we are more prepared and better.... That is all I have to say....
-Captian Colbyson Kyomoon
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AN, SPARTA, AND MERCZ are at war with Commandos SL. We are much smaller then them and we are more prepared and better&#8230;. That is all I have to say&#8230;.<br />
-Captian Colbyson Kyomoon</p>
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		<title>By: Raideur Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raideur Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How very......umm..constructive of you &quot;Jerk&quot;. There is no shame in having some decency, even in a computer simulation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How very&#8230;&#8230;umm..constructive of you &#8220;Jerk&#8221;. There is no shame in having some decency, even in a computer simulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.. you guys are a bunch of jerks... SL ? Police in that game ? go get a realLife your idiots.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.. you guys are a bunch of jerks&#8230; SL ? Police in that game ? go get a realLife your idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Raideur Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raideur Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider it good that more groups exist to be available to those who wish for protection or enforcement. Having more groups who follow strict rules and perform a duty of service to those who ask for it would violate no rules but simply be a service.

If they impose themselves, that is different.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider it good that more groups exist to be available to those who wish for protection or enforcement. Having more groups who follow strict rules and perform a duty of service to those who ask for it would violate no rules but simply be a service.</p>
<p>If they impose themselves, that is different.</p>
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