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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/beginning_of_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-40019</link>
		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHA!  SLLA, fat chance anyone gonna listen to you about your silly uppermost demand about giving all resident a vote power. Bad idea, you have any idea how many ALTS on SL?   you have any idea how many MINORS on MATURE account? How many are on basic accounts and how many people are actually clueless about business and SL itself?

I don&#039;t have the actual count but...  let&#039;s play with math and guessing...

SL has 1,836,507 accounts. 690,800 accounts was accessed in last 60 days.
That&#039;s 37% of total accounts.
Most accounts online to date was around 16,800 accounts.
That&#039;s 0.9% of total accounts.
But thoses on other side of the world, sleeping at different hours, most online accounts are 8,000.
That&#039;s 0.4% of total accounts.

those are fact, now let&#039;s play guessing.
Say most people are on SL half of the day. 16.8k count for online has been for a while through the whole day from morning to night. Double that up, that is about 33,600 people, add same result for those who lives on the other side of the world, which mostly around 8k. Double that and it&#039;s 16k adding 33.6k is..
49,600 people. Now how will I find a guess count of alts? let&#039;s see...  there&#039;s 49.6k real people and 690,800 account in last 60 days. Linden Labs has a data on count for the last 7, 14, and 30 days.
(http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php)

I noticed the count is doubling up as more days go by. So, half of those number is alts and half of newbies trying out SL and then gave up on it.
So cut 690.8k people in half and you get 345,400 ALTs people.
So that bring it to 18.8% of Total accounts!
That&#039;s about 7 or 6 accounts for each real people?

I know most people that I met have about 2 or 4 accounts and that result I did was kinda close. That&#039;s just me guessing on possibility.  You can try finding out on your own but...

Forget it, SLLA.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHA!  SLLA, fat chance anyone gonna listen to you about your silly uppermost demand about giving all resident a vote power. Bad idea, you have any idea how many ALTS on SL?   you have any idea how many MINORS on MATURE account? How many are on basic accounts and how many people are actually clueless about business and SL itself?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the actual count but&#8230;  let&#8217;s play with math and guessing&#8230;</p>
<p>SL has 1,836,507 accounts. 690,800 accounts was accessed in last 60 days.<br />
That&#8217;s 37% of total accounts.<br />
Most accounts online to date was around 16,800 accounts.<br />
That&#8217;s 0.9% of total accounts.<br />
But thoses on other side of the world, sleeping at different hours, most online accounts are 8,000.<br />
That&#8217;s 0.4% of total accounts.</p>
<p>those are fact, now let&#8217;s play guessing.<br />
Say most people are on SL half of the day. 16.8k count for online has been for a while through the whole day from morning to night. Double that up, that is about 33,600 people, add same result for those who lives on the other side of the world, which mostly around 8k. Double that and it&#8217;s 16k adding 33.6k is..<br />
49,600 people. Now how will I find a guess count of alts? let&#8217;s see&#8230;  there&#8217;s 49.6k real people and 690,800 account in last 60 days. Linden Labs has a data on count for the last 7, 14, and 30 days.<br />
(<a href="http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php" rel="nofollow">http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php</a>)</p>
<p>I noticed the count is doubling up as more days go by. So, half of those number is alts and half of newbies trying out SL and then gave up on it.<br />
So cut 690.8k people in half and you get 345,400 ALTs people.<br />
So that bring it to 18.8% of Total accounts!<br />
That&#8217;s about 7 or 6 accounts for each real people?</p>
<p>I know most people that I met have about 2 or 4 accounts and that result I did was kinda close. That&#8217;s just me guessing on possibility.  You can try finding out on your own but&#8230;</p>
<p>Forget it, SLLA.</p>
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		<title>By: humanoid</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2006/12/beginning_of_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-40018</link>
		<dc:creator>humanoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my doubts as to the harm caused by unpaid users. Most of them never make it beyond the basic avatar customization stage. Bored housewives who log in three or four times and then lose interest are hardly taxing the system.

Let us assume unpaid users are causing the majority of the problem, though. LL isn&#039;t doing a very good job of encouraging these people to sign up. They lowered the stipend without lowering the subscription prices. They even had the audacity to raise land fees. These actions haven&#039;t done anything good for the paid membership roll.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my doubts as to the harm caused by unpaid users. Most of them never make it beyond the basic avatar customization stage. Bored housewives who log in three or four times and then lose interest are hardly taxing the system.</p>
<p>Let us assume unpaid users are causing the majority of the problem, though. LL isn&#8217;t doing a very good job of encouraging these people to sign up. They lowered the stipend without lowering the subscription prices. They even had the audacity to raise land fees. These actions haven&#8217;t done anything good for the paid membership roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Roop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Roop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am rather a newbie, got into SL Oct. 21 and bought into premium membership about ten days later.  Everything has been going downhill from there.  Maybe it&#039;s all my fault.  Maybe I&#039;m the jinx.  Maybe I am causing the end of this world.  Yikes!
I&#039;m not at all a techie type, just in this for the fun of it.  Since I&#039;ve sunk some rl $ into this entertainment I have a right to complain, I&#039;m the customer and not a very happy one.  The LL management style stinks, pure and simple, and I don&#039;t have to be nice about saying so.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am rather a newbie, got into SL Oct. 21 and bought into premium membership about ten days later.  Everything has been going downhill from there.  Maybe it&#8217;s all my fault.  Maybe I&#8217;m the jinx.  Maybe I am causing the end of this world.  Yikes!<br />
I&#8217;m not at all a techie type, just in this for the fun of it.  Since I&#8217;ve sunk some rl $ into this entertainment I have a right to complain, I&#8217;m the customer and not a very happy one.  The LL management style stinks, pure and simple, and I don&#8217;t have to be nice about saying so.</p>
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		<title>By: SLLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SLLA has said this all along - there must be a refurendum by residents on the fee accounts.  The situation in untenable.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SLLA has said this all along &#8211; there must be a refurendum by residents on the fee accounts.  The situation in untenable.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Dwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Dwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^_^ bang on the money.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^_^ bang on the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome back...  yeah someone already document it. SL is still going strong while people aren&#039;t going very strong about it.... wait, no, people are piling up on SL with uncontrolled growth rate going on.

My bad... it&#039;s people and SL are going strong, Linden Labs isn&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome back&#8230;  yeah someone already document it. SL is still going strong while people aren&#8217;t going very strong about it&#8230;. wait, no, people are piling up on SL with uncontrolled growth rate going on.</p>
<p>My bad&#8230; it&#8217;s people and SL are going strong, Linden Labs isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Dwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Dwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being chewed up and flamed very quickly, I&#039;ve recently come *back* to SL after a 4 month haitus..

SL was reasonable before I left, its still pretty much the same now that I am back. The only real difference I&#039;ve seen is a change in which sims are shafted with lag.

Overall, ignoring the new features or screw ups.. its still pretty much the same. For the sake of people who seem to complain one way or another, who&#039;s going to be the first to document things?

Who has the guts to sit down and get actual figures from debug mode today and compare them with figures a month down the line.. and come out with something thats *not* biased?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being chewed up and flamed very quickly, I&#8217;ve recently come *back* to SL after a 4 month haitus..</p>
<p>SL was reasonable before I left, its still pretty much the same now that I am back. The only real difference I&#8217;ve seen is a change in which sims are shafted with lag.</p>
<p>Overall, ignoring the new features or screw ups.. its still pretty much the same. For the sake of people who seem to complain one way or another, who&#8217;s going to be the first to document things?</p>
<p>Who has the guts to sit down and get actual figures from debug mode today and compare them with figures a month down the line.. and come out with something thats *not* biased?</p>
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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc: blah blah blah blah
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah blah!
Doc: blah blah BLAH!!!
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah... blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
Doc: blah blah? BLAH! blah blah blah blah.
Prok: Bleh blah blah blah bleh blah blob blah blah. blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Doc: blah blah blah blah blah blah BLAGH!
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah blah.


I need sleep and... please try not be a noob, ok guys? Jesus.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc: blah blah blah blah<br />
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah blah!<br />
Doc: blah blah BLAH!!!<br />
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah&#8230; blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.<br />
Doc: blah blah? BLAH! blah blah blah blah.<br />
Prok: Bleh blah blah blah bleh blah blob blah blah. blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.<br />
Doc: blah blah blah blah blah blah BLAGH!<br />
Prok: blah blah blah blah blah blah.</p>
<p>I need sleep and&#8230; please try not be a noob, ok guys? Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Doc, it isn&#039;t about me. I have the log-in records to point to on their website. And the dollars spent. They don&#039;t seem significantly diminished. Oh, maybe on one day when it was especially messed up, but overall, it&#039;s moving from glory to glory, Doc.

Whereas what you have to show for yourself is like 2 1/2 people whining and leaving -- but not leaving lol.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Doc, it isn&#8217;t about me. I have the log-in records to point to on their website. And the dollars spent. They don&#8217;t seem significantly diminished. Oh, maybe on one day when it was especially messed up, but overall, it&#8217;s moving from glory to glory, Doc.</p>
<p>Whereas what you have to show for yourself is like 2 1/2 people whining and leaving &#8212; but not leaving lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Petra Ochs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra Ochs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a newbie who has earned and spent upwards of $L 1000, I do not know what SL was like last month, much less a year ago. I like what I see in SL, and have found about the same amount of wonderful people as scumbags.

More than that, I find the above discussions, especially by Doc and Prokofy Neva incredibly interesting, with comparisons between upper classes dumping on lower classes while seeking to make them scapegoats for existing problems. In 10+ years of using the internet, I have found nothing that matches this level of social complexity that so mirrors real life.

This noob is going to ride this ship as long as she can, while doing as much good in-world as possible. Thank you all for providing insights into this new world I have stumbled upon.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a newbie who has earned and spent upwards of $L 1000, I do not know what SL was like last month, much less a year ago. I like what I see in SL, and have found about the same amount of wonderful people as scumbags.</p>
<p>More than that, I find the above discussions, especially by Doc and Prokofy Neva incredibly interesting, with comparisons between upper classes dumping on lower classes while seeking to make them scapegoats for existing problems. In 10+ years of using the internet, I have found nothing that matches this level of social complexity that so mirrors real life.</p>
<p>This noob is going to ride this ship as long as she can, while doing as much good in-world as possible. Thank you all for providing insights into this new world I have stumbled upon.</p>
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