If we did not have people breaking the system, it would never get stronger. Period. Your argument lacks logical merit on too many counts to deal with, but mostly, you are just way to bunged up about it all. It’s almost as if this weren’t about what it’s about, but rather you being on some sort of personal vendetta. Isn’t that Latin too?

Our virtual IBM complex was the product of a real explosion of interest and expertise across hundreds, and now more than 1,000, IBMers. And if anything defines the rich collaboration that our build entailed, I can see without question it was “good faith.”

Many of us didn’t even know each other before the virtual frontier brought us together, and already, our interactions with other people in SL have been very enriching for us all.

We want to be responsible and productive members of the community of virtual world innovators. And your issues with the megaprims’ origins are understandable, but let me be clear: choosing to use megaprims is in no way a wink or a nod to griefers. It was merely a practical choice for the set of sims we wanted to build.

“Deployed properly, megaprims can significantly save on prim counts in cases where you can tolerate measurements being locked to certain oversized dimensions as hacked out by the defunct Satyr goons.”

They are not defunct, but roam around on alts, and let’s note here for the record that these mega-prims were created for the library of libsecondlife and represent yet another one of their More Science products that in fact were most used by griefers, and which are still associated with griefing and a potential for griefing.

The point is, this IS an island, so the idea that any sort of kludge-fix is even necessary is all wet.

And yes, Jessica, you stand charged with using not merely “politically incorrect” prims, but the prims of a man [elided by Uri].

Honestly, it’s as if *your* grid wasn’t crashed, too? Or you think grid-crashing is just like the rain, take out your umbrella?

And Jesse Malthus’ sordid little victory-dancing here lets us know exactly the gloating, vindictive spirit of libsecondlife, and why any respectable and serious people should not only disassociate themselves from that group but leave it completely. They are contributors to griefing, if not in fact griefers themselves by constantly apologizing for griefers and allowing them to run roughshod over SL. Jessica is celebrating griefers. IBM, under the guise of supporting this as a “rich experience” is also winking and nodding at griefers, bleh — epredator potato, shame on you for thinking you can mouth platitudes about “the integrity of the community” and support grid-crashers.

And yes, there is a Latin word for using a bad man’s prims: male fides.

I’m totally unimpressed.

I really view this sort of shit as so similar to the radical chic of loving up the violent Black Panthers and not only condoning but celebrating violent revolutionary tactics.

That’s why *I* use Leibniz’s version of the Calculus and was oh so ready to jump on board with general relativity.

Newton…

::spits::

As the lead architect on the IBM build, I’d like to respond with, well pretty much what Patchouli Woollahra said above. Aside from the prim count savings I found that the megas simply *rendered* much better and faster than an identical structure composed by (say) ShapeMaker. In the end I used the megas because they were available and they did the job best out of all of the alternatives I investigated.

So I put a lot of considered thought into whether or not to use megas but golly: “are my prims Politically Correct?” Ya got me there.

For the record, there’s no love lost between myself and GR. But there’s gotta be a latin name for the logical fallacy that maintains “you can’t use those prims because a bad man made them.” I mean: by all reports, Isaac Newton was a big jerk. We still use Calculus.

> Hmm, the upper structure in the first picture is identical
> to the one out on Help Island.

I had not seen this, so I went out and took a look. I see the similarity, but I think if you came out to IBM you’d see that ours is just a tad “different”

FINALLY: I urge everyone to go to the IBM cluster and see for themselves, it’s a very beautiful place that is the collaborative result of many builders and scripters from all over the world. Parts of it are private, but most is public, and we hope to have a steady stream of interesting displays, demos, and events going on over the next months. And it is a testamonial to this technology that a team such as this could assemble and collaborate to put all of it together.

Just do a Map search on the region called IBM and you’ll find it.

I’m not a lover of some of the asshattery that Satyr and Baku are capable of, but if they’re prepared to contribute something that benefits the grid, I see no reason why nobody should avail themselves of it.

It’s simply a matter of realising that these megaprims do NOT play nice with physics, and collision detection is a little wonky (they don’t seem to reflect any hollowing done on them).

In fact, most deployments of megaprims I’ve seen to date are more often than not phantom and heavily hollowed out: the problem with owning mainland sims is that you don’t have access to the estate tools that lock down the way the sky looks server-side. A skydome with a sky texture wrapped all over is a kludge fix, but then, there isn’t an alternative short of buying an island. Not all of us can afford that, really…