Comments on: Silent Sheep-bots Invade Ambat http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: SuezanneC Baskerville http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38762 SuezanneC Baskerville Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:08:20 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38762 Copybot: Nevah forget. NEVAH. Copybot:

Nevah forget. NEVAH.

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38761 Prokofy Neva Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:00:04 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38761 Here's the way they'll be doing it with the new open-source deal: It's a GNU license and you have to make what you do available to the public. So I wonder how that squares with the libsecondlife practice of taking things reverse-engineered, but not posting them openly, nor publicizing their names on the items, and using them for private, commercial use -- and griefing, of course. Will you now be forced to cease that practice? Here’s the way they’ll be doing it with the new open-source deal:

It’s a GNU license and you have to make what you do available to the public.

So I wonder how that squares with the libsecondlife practice of taking things reverse-engineered, but not posting them openly, nor publicizing their names on the items, and using them for private, commercial use — and griefing, of course.

Will you now be forced to cease that practice?

]]> By: Jesse Malthus http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38760 Jesse Malthus Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:32:51 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38760 1. Yes 2. Not as much on both server and client side (and it's got even more fine-grained bandwidth tools) 3. That's up to each members own conscience. We don't have any "libsl account pool" or anything of the sort (although we might if we get buy a last name. How does Tekkiwiki sound?" 1. Yes
2. Not as much on both server and client side (and it’s got even more fine-grained bandwidth tools)
3. That’s up to each members own conscience. We don’t have any “libsl account pool” or anything of the sort (although we might if we get buy a last name. How does Tekkiwiki sound?”

]]> By: Oh Really... http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38759 Oh Really... Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:55:22 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38759 Prok displays a complete lack of understanding about what a library is in computer science terms, open source libraries and open source in general. You can add that to the list I guess... We can only hope our heros at the Justice League can save us from the onslaught of reusable blocks of code designed to be used by programmers in assembling their own programs. What were computer scientists thinking of when they began this dark road with things like APIs, shared objects, etc? The horrors! Prok displays a complete lack of understanding about what a library is in computer science terms, open source libraries and open source in general. You can add that to the list I guess…

We can only hope our heros at the Justice League can save us from the onslaught of reusable blocks of code designed to be used by programmers in assembling their own programs. What were computer scientists thinking of when they began this dark road with things like APIs, shared objects, etc? The horrors!

]]> By: Cocoanut Koala http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38758 Cocoanut Koala Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:28:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38758 Three questions for Jesse and others in LibSL: 1. Do these bots count in the general number of people on line? 2. Do these bots take up resources as a normal AV would? 3. Does LibSL pay an additional $10 for every bot they create? coco Three questions for Jesse and others in LibSL:

1. Do these bots count in the general number of people on line?

2. Do these bots take up resources as a normal AV would?

3. Does LibSL pay an additional $10 for every bot they create?

coco

]]> By: Jesse Malthus http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38757 Jesse Malthus Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:45:37 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38757 Prokofy: Different licenses for different purposes. Companies tend to be less likely to use a library if it means having to divulge their code. In fact, some people call the BSD license more free than the GPL since it has less restrictions on what you can do with the licensed code. Also, open source is a development methodology whereas Free Software is a movement. libsecondlife doesn't subscribe to the latter. Prokofy: Different licenses for different purposes. Companies tend to be less likely to use a library if it means having to divulge their code.
In fact, some people call the BSD license more free than the GPL since it has less restrictions on what you can do with the licensed code.
Also, open source is a development methodology whereas Free Software is a movement. libsecondlife doesn’t subscribe to the latter.

]]> By: Mako Mabellon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38756 Mako Mabellon Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:06 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38756 <I>Btw, I find it touching to consider how dedicated ESC employees individually dress each and every separately logged-on bot in their own personal, individual non-copyable sheep outfit. I bet they have little footed jammies, too.</I><br><br> Only legal way to do it. (Probably now the easiest method, too, at least for relatively small numbers of bots - the code to restore the previous appearance on login is reasonably well-tested and takes just two lines of code in the application to activate. Appearance cloning, OTOH, would be more complicated.) Fortunately, I think you generally only have to do it once per bot (well, until the baked textures break or are deleted, anyway). Btw, I find it touching to consider how dedicated ESC employees individually dress each and every separately logged-on bot in their own personal, individual non-copyable sheep outfit. I bet they have little footed jammies, too.

Only legal way to do it. (Probably now the easiest method, too, at least for relatively small numbers of bots – the code to restore the previous appearance on login is reasonably well-tested and takes just two lines of code in the application to activate. Appearance cloning, OTOH, would be more complicated.)

Fortunately, I think you generally only have to do it once per bot (well, until the baked textures break or are deleted, anyway).

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38755 Prokofy Neva Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:18:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38755 Apple's OS is not made up of anonymous people, nor do the Apple makers/users/adapters use it to grief people. That's why this practice doesn't suck when they do it : ) Um, I don't play guessing games. I suggest this fellow put his name on his work so that um, the Motherland May Know Its Heroes. Apple’s OS is not made up of anonymous people, nor do the Apple makers/users/adapters use it to grief people. That’s why this practice doesn’t suck when they do it : )

Um, I don’t play guessing games. I suggest this fellow put his name on his work so that um, the Motherland May Know Its Heroes.

]]> By: Eddy Stryker http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38754 Eddy Stryker Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:38:29 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38754 "I'm not certain what you've cobbled up is even good open-source practices. Sounds to me like you want open-source to mean "I get to do WTF I want, and even not open source code and keep it for commercial gain in an project trying to gain its cred from being open sourc" etc. etc." Yes, such a horrible license the BSD is. That's why there are a dozen operating systems based off it that are also the backbone of Apple's OS. Prokofy, did you give up guessing already? You are so close! “I’m not certain what you’ve cobbled up is even good open-source practices. Sounds to me like you want open-source to mean “I get to do WTF I want, and even not open source code and keep it for commercial gain in an project trying to gain its cred from being open sourc” etc. etc.”

Yes, such a horrible license the BSD is. That’s why there are a dozen operating systems based off it that are also the backbone of Apple’s OS.

Prokofy, did you give up guessing already? You are so close!

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/01/silent_sheepbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-38753 Prokofy Neva Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:15:21 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1628#comment-38753 Btw, I find it touching to consider how dedicated ESC employees individually dress each and every separately logged-on bot in their own personal, individual non-copyable sheep outfit. I bet they have little footed jammies, too. Btw, I find it touching to consider how dedicated ESC employees individually dress each and every separately logged-on bot in their own personal, individual non-copyable sheep outfit. I bet they have little footed jammies, too.

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