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		<title>By: Wayfinder Wishbringer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37038</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayfinder Wishbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above said Harlequin, I just read a previous post of yours that sumaraized SL pretty well.  Yeah, it&#039;s got troubles.  Everyone knows that.  We&#039;ve known it for a long time.  And when you say that LL has this attitude because they don&#039;t have any competition, I think you hit the nail right on the head.  Obviously most folks don&#039;t consider THERE or ACTIVE WORLDS to be real competition.  Oddly enough, I *do* consider WoW and other system to be competition, but for some reason LL doesn&#039;t see it that way.  Go figure.

But, that&#039;s not always going to be the case.  We all know that.  Eventually, there is going to be some real competition-- and when that happens, all the garbage that Linden Lab has pulled up until now will be remembered-- and if the competition is any good at all, SL will start becoming one big, barren landscape.  And if the competition is smart enough do things right, they can flat put LL out of business practically overnight.

I&#039;ve known for a long time how to make SL functional and how to make it profitable.  You can bet your buns I&#039;m not going to tell LL.  I&#039;m one of the ones they ticked off... and one of the millions that gave SL the heave-ho already.  Something tells me those millions are just the beginning of LL&#039;s problems.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above said Harlequin, I just read a previous post of yours that sumaraized SL pretty well.  Yeah, it&#8217;s got troubles.  Everyone knows that.  We&#8217;ve known it for a long time.  And when you say that LL has this attitude because they don&#8217;t have any competition, I think you hit the nail right on the head.  Obviously most folks don&#8217;t consider THERE or ACTIVE WORLDS to be real competition.  Oddly enough, I *do* consider WoW and other system to be competition, but for some reason LL doesn&#8217;t see it that way.  Go figure.</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s not always going to be the case.  We all know that.  Eventually, there is going to be some real competition&#8211; and when that happens, all the garbage that Linden Lab has pulled up until now will be remembered&#8211; and if the competition is any good at all, SL will start becoming one big, barren landscape.  And if the competition is smart enough do things right, they can flat put LL out of business practically overnight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known for a long time how to make SL functional and how to make it profitable.  You can bet your buns I&#8217;m not going to tell LL.  I&#8217;m one of the ones they ticked off&#8230; and one of the millions that gave SL the heave-ho already.  Something tells me those millions are just the beginning of LL&#8217;s problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayfinder Wishbringer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37037</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayfinder Wishbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to take anyone&#039;s side but...

Harlequin, Proteus, if you&#039;re pro-SL, that&#039;s fine.  Glad you&#039;re having fun.  That doesn&#039;t negate the very real fact that Second Life has some very real problems.  Glad you formed your military.  But tell me... what good does it do if you can&#039;t get 30 avs on a sim without lagging to oblivion?  Not much of an army for maneuvers, is it?

Guys, just because someone disagrees with your opinion doesn&#039;t justify throwing a tantrum.  Frankly, I found Prok&#039;s responses much more level-headed, insightful and mature than your responses to her.  Now, if I missed somewhere that she was rude, called you names or showed you disrespect, please enlighten me.  All I perceived was that Prok asked a valid question and you called her rancid troll-meat and stated Prok&#039;s opinion was garbage.  Frankly, you lost the debate right there.  A valid alternative would have been to respectfully answer her question and tell her why you prefer Second Life as a wargame environment.

If you expect people to consider your opinions as valid, stick to the issues.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to take anyone&#8217;s side but&#8230;</p>
<p>Harlequin, Proteus, if you&#8217;re pro-SL, that&#8217;s fine.  Glad you&#8217;re having fun.  That doesn&#8217;t negate the very real fact that Second Life has some very real problems.  Glad you formed your military.  But tell me&#8230; what good does it do if you can&#8217;t get 30 avs on a sim without lagging to oblivion?  Not much of an army for maneuvers, is it?</p>
<p>Guys, just because someone disagrees with your opinion doesn&#8217;t justify throwing a tantrum.  Frankly, I found Prok&#8217;s responses much more level-headed, insightful and mature than your responses to her.  Now, if I missed somewhere that she was rude, called you names or showed you disrespect, please enlighten me.  All I perceived was that Prok asked a valid question and you called her rancid troll-meat and stated Prok&#8217;s opinion was garbage.  Frankly, you lost the debate right there.  A valid alternative would have been to respectfully answer her question and tell her why you prefer Second Life as a wargame environment.</p>
<p>If you expect people to consider your opinions as valid, stick to the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Proteus Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proteus Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok, this is the first... and probably only time I&#039;m going to agree with Harlequin....

Secondlife was made for anything.  If people want military, it&#039;s because they are unwilling to experience it in real life, and do not want to deal with the static, repetitive structure of WoW.

In a secondlife military, it functions entirely off of people. REAL people. No NPC&#039;s involved... no pointless errands to kill bandits as a green recruit because a level 60 guard, armed to the teeth, refuses to do it himself.

SL military, you pull your own weight, and you solve problems that NEED  to be solved. You don&#039;t gain exp points... you gain actual experience, you will learn how to function in laggy environments, deal with hardships, and foolish, close-minded people.

Exactly how much respect do you think you deserve, Prok?
I doubt it&#039;s enough to waltz into secondlife and tell a group of people that they shouldn&#039;t be a military and expect a pleasant response.  In some ancient time, during the migration from TSO, I&#039;m sure you were a great pioneer.... but to us, you&#039;re opinion is garbage, and unless you begin showing the respect that you want in return, that is how it will remain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok, this is the first&#8230; and probably only time I&#8217;m going to agree with Harlequin&#8230;.</p>
<p>Secondlife was made for anything.  If people want military, it&#8217;s because they are unwilling to experience it in real life, and do not want to deal with the static, repetitive structure of WoW.</p>
<p>In a secondlife military, it functions entirely off of people. REAL people. No NPC&#8217;s involved&#8230; no pointless errands to kill bandits as a green recruit because a level 60 guard, armed to the teeth, refuses to do it himself.</p>
<p>SL military, you pull your own weight, and you solve problems that NEED  to be solved. You don&#8217;t gain exp points&#8230; you gain actual experience, you will learn how to function in laggy environments, deal with hardships, and foolish, close-minded people.</p>
<p>Exactly how much respect do you think you deserve, Prok?<br />
I doubt it&#8217;s enough to waltz into secondlife and tell a group of people that they shouldn&#8217;t be a military and expect a pleasant response.  In some ancient time, during the migration from TSO, I&#8217;m sure you were a great pioneer&#8230;. but to us, you&#8217;re opinion is garbage, and unless you begin showing the respect that you want in return, that is how it will remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock Ramona</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37035</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock Ramona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain my friend.There was a time when I purchased 3/4 of a sim to fly my planes and sail my boats.When it became impossible to do this because of lag and other problems I sold out and made a nice profit.The next thing I did was to bring some of my old friends from a hacker group I belong to to help me build some security scripts for a new idea of building my own new mainland for people to live there and sail and fly their aircraft.In the process of doing this,we discovered some things,and have decided that we are going to put our efforts into making our own virtual world.A place where there will be zones and rules verified accounts.This is going to be a long haul but a worthy one,and after watching the Star Wars Galaxies Clone that is being built as we speak,it gives me hope that maybe it can be done here as well :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain my friend.There was a time when I purchased 3/4 of a sim to fly my planes and sail my boats.When it became impossible to do this because of lag and other problems I sold out and made a nice profit.The next thing I did was to bring some of my old friends from a hacker group I belong to to help me build some security scripts for a new idea of building my own new mainland for people to live there and sail and fly their aircraft.In the process of doing this,we discovered some things,and have decided that we are going to put our efforts into making our own virtual world.A place where there will be zones and rules verified accounts.This is going to be a long haul but a worthy one,and after watching the Star Wars Galaxies Clone that is being built as we speak,it gives me hope that maybe it can be done here as well <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Harlequin Salome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlequin Salome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Nods* Nathan hit it on the head there. Confidence is an important commodity in this new marketplace, and LL is losing it.

h, and Prok, I don&#039;t get logging on just to piss, moan, and generally whine like a stuck pig about SL. So I guess your not getting what we do, is the same as us not getting what you do. So just stop, you rancid pile of trollmeat.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Nods* Nathan hit it on the head there. Confidence is an important commodity in this new marketplace, and LL is losing it.</p>
<p>h, and Prok, I don&#8217;t get logging on just to piss, moan, and generally whine like a stuck pig about SL. So I guess your not getting what we do, is the same as us not getting what you do. So just stop, you rancid pile of trollmeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Talthybius Brevity</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37033</link>
		<dc:creator>Talthybius Brevity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please leave some for the fanboys. They are going to need it.&quot;

QFT
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please leave some for the fanboys. They are going to need it.&#8221;</p>
<p>QFT</p>
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		<title>By: Myrrh Massiel</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37032</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrrh Massiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/me is sad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me is sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/oped_wtf.html/comment-page-1#comment-37031</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuskasa, freedom to create armour, vehicles, and weapons and then...be all dressed up with nowhere to go. I don&#039;t get it. It&#039;s like a 3-d prototyper for another game, that you can&#039;t make on this platform.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuskasa, freedom to create armour, vehicles, and weapons and then&#8230;be all dressed up with nowhere to go. I don&#8217;t get it. It&#8217;s like a 3-d prototyper for another game, that you can&#8217;t make on this platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsukasa Keiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tsukasa Keiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though it wasn&#039;t addressed to me, please allow me to answer your question, Prokofy.

Many &quot;wargame&quot; players that invest in a game more than a passing glance have a high level of imagination and cognitive thought (or are just a greifer, but they (mostly) don&#039;t form successful SL armies).  No other single online game, whether it be WoW or Call of Duty, allows you the freedom in creating your own game as SL does.  Even better, SL allows you to see how your vision matches up against other people&#039;s visions.

Despite how much SL&#039;s poorly coded physics and rendering engine restrict the game, SL still has the most freedom of any game.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though it wasn&#8217;t addressed to me, please allow me to answer your question, Prokofy.</p>
<p>Many &#8220;wargame&#8221; players that invest in a game more than a passing glance have a high level of imagination and cognitive thought (or are just a greifer, but they (mostly) don&#8217;t form successful SL armies).  No other single online game, whether it be WoW or Call of Duty, allows you the freedom in creating your own game as SL does.  Even better, SL allows you to see how your vision matches up against other people&#8217;s visions.</p>
<p>Despite how much SL&#8217;s poorly coded physics and rendering engine restrict the game, SL still has the most freedom of any game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tenshi Vielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenshi Vielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole business had me pissed off, especially with no warning and after there had been over 31,000 users logged on.

Shit.

I&#039;m sick of my hair ended up in my crotch and looking like an overgrown weed. Either they need to start disabling prim attachments when the grid starts overheating, or they need to start *warning* us, please... if at all possible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole business had me pissed off, especially with no warning and after there had been over 31,000 users logged on.</p>
<p>Shit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of my hair ended up in my crotch and looking like an overgrown weed. Either they need to start disabling prim attachments when the grid starts overheating, or they need to start *warning* us, please&#8230; if at all possible.</p>
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