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		<title>By: KMG</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-2#comment-36719</link>
		<dc:creator>KMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great success the Second Life protest must have been, afterall all of you wouldn&#039;t be commenting on this page and discussing politics and the war if it weren&#039;t for the Second Life protest. I&#039;ve heard conservatives say that people on Second Life are hippies, weirdos, liberal freaks, idiots, losers without a life etc etc and that they don&#039;t actually understand politics or how terrible the government of Iran is...and so on. And I can&#039;t really defend or attack specific people on Second Life because I only just signed up for it yesterday and don&#039;t know much about the game. But I can tell you this, my boyfriend&#039;s parents play the game and make several hundred dollars a month (real US dollars) by playing second life because they create textures, houses, sell property and land etc...and they are shrewd enough to see that there is a huge market for this stuff on second life and that people are willing to pay them real money for it. They&#039;re not hippies, in fact in real life one of them is a private contractor doing programming and making a mint and the other is a marketing professional for a lucrative agency that has clients like Intel. They aren&#039;t crazy liberals, they do have a life, they do contribute to the capitalist American system and are certainly not what most conservatives think of when they picture people on Second Life. I&#039;m not saying there aren&#039;t crazy people or liberals or hippies that play the game. I&#039;m sure that there are. But there&#039;s nothing wrong with that. Second Life is a huge community full of a diverse population of people from all over the world. There are many different religions, political beliefs and cultural differences among the people of Second Life and it&#039;s rediculous to pidgeon hole them and say they&#039;re all the same. And there&#039;s certainly nothing wrong with protesting the war via Second Life. Afterall Second Life is primarily an advertising tool like anything else on the Internet. If you advertise your company on Second Life, you&#039;re promoting your business in real life. If you sell items you make in Second Life you can advertise them in real life. If you protest the war in Second Life, you just basically advertising online for the anti-war movement that exists in real life. And just like in real life, if you hate anti-war protestors, you have every right to voice your opinion on Second Life or on blogs on the Internet, but that doesn&#039;t mean they shouldn&#039;t be allowed to protest. The one thing I do like about Second Life is that it allows everyone in the world an opportunity to come together as one democratic community. There will be &quot;griefers&quot; or people that go against the ideals and good will of the community but they exist in real life too and are unavoidable. That doesn&#039;t mean you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to come together as a community in the world or online and fight for what you believe in. If I had been at that Second Life protest, I may not have supported people who held signs promoting the Iran government because they&#039;re government is even worse than the US government and shouldn&#039;t be condoned. But it wouldn&#039;t stop me from protesting with them and holding my own political signs up about the views I believe in. I can disagree with someone and still pull together with them to fight for a common cause. So stop trying to divide people with personal attacks or hate speech regarding people who happen to be different than you. Be a little more understanding and if you don&#039;t agree with someone or something, express that disagreement in a civil manner. Otherwise no one will listen to you anyway and just think you&#039;re a hot head or are ignorant. Just a thought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great success the Second Life protest must have been, afterall all of you wouldn&#8217;t be commenting on this page and discussing politics and the war if it weren&#8217;t for the Second Life protest. I&#8217;ve heard conservatives say that people on Second Life are hippies, weirdos, liberal freaks, idiots, losers without a life etc etc and that they don&#8217;t actually understand politics or how terrible the government of Iran is&#8230;and so on. And I can&#8217;t really defend or attack specific people on Second Life because I only just signed up for it yesterday and don&#8217;t know much about the game. But I can tell you this, my boyfriend&#8217;s parents play the game and make several hundred dollars a month (real US dollars) by playing second life because they create textures, houses, sell property and land etc&#8230;and they are shrewd enough to see that there is a huge market for this stuff on second life and that people are willing to pay them real money for it. They&#8217;re not hippies, in fact in real life one of them is a private contractor doing programming and making a mint and the other is a marketing professional for a lucrative agency that has clients like Intel. They aren&#8217;t crazy liberals, they do have a life, they do contribute to the capitalist American system and are certainly not what most conservatives think of when they picture people on Second Life. I&#8217;m not saying there aren&#8217;t crazy people or liberals or hippies that play the game. I&#8217;m sure that there are. But there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. Second Life is a huge community full of a diverse population of people from all over the world. There are many different religions, political beliefs and cultural differences among the people of Second Life and it&#8217;s rediculous to pidgeon hole them and say they&#8217;re all the same. And there&#8217;s certainly nothing wrong with protesting the war via Second Life. Afterall Second Life is primarily an advertising tool like anything else on the Internet. If you advertise your company on Second Life, you&#8217;re promoting your business in real life. If you sell items you make in Second Life you can advertise them in real life. If you protest the war in Second Life, you just basically advertising online for the anti-war movement that exists in real life. And just like in real life, if you hate anti-war protestors, you have every right to voice your opinion on Second Life or on blogs on the Internet, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to protest. The one thing I do like about Second Life is that it allows everyone in the world an opportunity to come together as one democratic community. There will be &#8220;griefers&#8221; or people that go against the ideals and good will of the community but they exist in real life too and are unavoidable. That doesn&#8217;t mean you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to come together as a community in the world or online and fight for what you believe in. If I had been at that Second Life protest, I may not have supported people who held signs promoting the Iran government because they&#8217;re government is even worse than the US government and shouldn&#8217;t be condoned. But it wouldn&#8217;t stop me from protesting with them and holding my own political signs up about the views I believe in. I can disagree with someone and still pull together with them to fight for a common cause. So stop trying to divide people with personal attacks or hate speech regarding people who happen to be different than you. Be a little more understanding and if you don&#8217;t agree with someone or something, express that disagreement in a civil manner. Otherwise no one will listen to you anyway and just think you&#8217;re a hot head or are ignorant. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkfoxx</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-2#comment-36718</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkfoxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the middle ages, ya know, castles, knights in shining armour, etc, IRL...

Some western dickweeds thought it would be a good idea to go to the middle east and chop off some heads, unless those heads would convert to their religion. And they went, and chopped off many a head.

Who started this whole mess? We did.
Why does the general public in the middle east dislike us? Cause we won&#039;t leave them the fuck alone.

Why don&#039;t we leave the middle east for what it is for a moment and concentrate on something new?

Like Africa, I hear there&#039;s some real problems going on there. Just think how many people we could save using all that military hardware and those trillions of dollars spent on bullets, to help them to some clean water instead?

I think that the people in the middle east will dislike the wes t a lot less if our troops would just stop shooting up their homes. They&#039;ll get pissed at their neighbours yes... But at lest we won&#039;t be giving them a bad example to follow. and they won&#039;t be so happy to fly aircraft in buildings.

Just a suggestion from a hippy. Swords to plowshears, people. Peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the middle ages, ya know, castles, knights in shining armour, etc, IRL&#8230;</p>
<p>Some western dickweeds thought it would be a good idea to go to the middle east and chop off some heads, unless those heads would convert to their religion. And they went, and chopped off many a head.</p>
<p>Who started this whole mess? We did.<br />
Why does the general public in the middle east dislike us? Cause we won&#8217;t leave them the fuck alone.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we leave the middle east for what it is for a moment and concentrate on something new?</p>
<p>Like Africa, I hear there&#8217;s some real problems going on there. Just think how many people we could save using all that military hardware and those trillions of dollars spent on bullets, to help them to some clean water instead?</p>
<p>I think that the people in the middle east will dislike the wes t a lot less if our troops would just stop shooting up their homes. They&#8217;ll get pissed at their neighbours yes&#8230; But at lest we won&#8217;t be giving them a bad example to follow. and they won&#8217;t be so happy to fly aircraft in buildings.</p>
<p>Just a suggestion from a hippy. Swords to plowshears, people. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Pond</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-2#comment-36717</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar-winning director Woody Allen will take a break from film-making to direct Puccini&apos;s Gianni Schicchi in Los Angeles...
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		<title>By: VIDEO HUB blog</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-2#comment-36720</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beyond Broadcast 2&lt;/strong&gt;

I agree with Bryan&#039;s comments that this year&#039;s BB wasn&#039;t as good as last year. Why? Well I felt like I wasn&#039;t hearing anything new. Everything was a continuation of last year. Although the resounding message seemed to be &#039;we...
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<p>I agree with Bryan&#8217;s comments that this year&#8217;s BB wasn&#8217;t as good as last year. Why? Well I felt like I wasn&#8217;t hearing anything new. Everything was a continuation of last year. Although the resounding message seemed to be &#8216;we&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Plot Tracer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-1#comment-36716</link>
		<dc:creator>Plot Tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Prokofy - you are indeed wise.  Don&#039;t read anything if it may challenge your world view - and, yes of course, you are right - there is no place for dissent in this world.  If we could just all agree with exploitation, the world would be a better place...  and those profit taking alternative bookstores and leaflet distributers should just stop annoying us!

You are indeed a wise old sage... any chance of a free office on one of your sims?

http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Prokofy &#8211; you are indeed wise.  Don&#8217;t read anything if it may challenge your world view &#8211; and, yes of course, you are right &#8211; there is no place for dissent in this world.  If we could just all agree with exploitation, the world would be a better place&#8230;  and those profit taking alternative bookstores and leaflet distributers should just stop annoying us!</p>
<p>You are indeed a wise old sage&#8230; any chance of a free office on one of your sims?</p>
<p><a href="http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-1#comment-36715</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is identifying someone with their proper label &quot;name-calling&quot;? It&#039;s so typical of peace movements and causes of various kinds that very hardline leftists and extremists hide out in them. They cloak their agenda with a few single-issue or simplistic slogans. You come from a very hardcore extremist political movement, than turns off anyone with half a brain if they read the silly newspapers you distribute on the street or in alternative bookstores, but when a mass movement gets started, you show up to hijack it.

In SL, this is apparently very much easier to do. You can make a t-shirt, plot a movement as &quot;plot tracer&quot; and get none other than John Cage of Sun Microsystems, who is the &quot;Man&quot; that you would like to &quot;bring down&quot; in your silly newspapers, to don that t-shirt.

I think it&#039;s important to expose this sort of stuff as it gets going in SL.

I&#039;ll bet few people showing up at this demo thought they were also showing up for an extremist agenda a la the Spartacist League. They may have wished to protest US involvement in a war, full stop. They may not have wished to embrace Castro and every other rogue tyrant out there, but yet, hooking up with you and your website, now they are. It&#039;s despicable.

Sectarians with fervent belief systems and doctrinaire programs are always energized to show up, hijack agendas, move among people who are clueless, etc. and take advantage of them. I hate that sort of thing.

I don&#039;t think you can get America to stop being a capitalist country. That&#039;s not only what the majority of people want it to be; it&#039;s what the millions escaping tyranny and povery from other shores whose regimes you sanctify (like Castro&#039;s) want it to be. So I&#039;m afraid that the masses you love to invoke vote with their feet.

No, I don&#039;t think espousing a capitalist or liberal world view is at all sectarian. That&#039;s because when people are free and have the democratic institutions to chose, they chose it. Socialism has mainly had to be imposed on people by force; when they chose it, they chafe under it and then chose out of it unless they&#039;re killed.

I don&#039;t know the current issues surrounding the UK&#039;s missiles, but I have to say, that in Europe, Western Europe is still in the gunsights of the old Soviet Union, which hasn&#039;t reformed much. Europe now gets 60 percent of its energy from Russia and Central Asia -- it&#039;s hugely dependent. Even when a Russian ex-psy is poisoned, they are powerless to do anything. So perhaps they hang on to their nukes because they understand deep down the nature of the forces they are dealing with on their continent.

I&#039;ve followed bodycount religious. I used to even cite it in my own news stories. But then I began to see they were filling it up with every single unchecked wire story. Wire stories are always inflated, and often get re-filed and corrected a dozen times, but sources that grabbed them the first time don&#039;t come back and fix them. But what matters isn&#039;t whether there are 100,000 deaths or 10,000. The war is wrong, and even 1 death is wrong in Iraq. If you are going to bandy about numbers, do keep in mind that terrorists funded by Iran, and various other homegrown insurgents have also contributed to the deaths, and they&#039;re the ones doing most of the assassinations of intellectuals, doctors, engineers, former governemnt officials, police trainees, current governemnt ministers -- it&#039;s the extremist believe that you can impose this fascistic form of Islam through murdering the skilled people in the society. I don&#039;t hear you condemning THAT.

And I don&#039;t hear you having a solution for what to do about that murderousness. If U.S. force is clumsy and suspect and tainted -- which it is -- then...um...I guess you can leave it to Russia, China, and Sudan to run things. Good luck!

BTW, the &quot;slaughter of the children&quot; in Iraq is one of the biggest fake canard stories of all time. Even the Nation debunked that old myth concocted by a few UN third world bureaucrats to try to affect policy. Life expectancy of children was higher in the areas Sadam controlled the least. This story is one of the ones easily refuted.

It&#039;s like the &quot;100,000 children&quot; who were going to be slaughtered when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan or Iraq. Um, it didn&#039;t happen that way, and not in those numbers, and not for those reasons. Oppose these invasions all you like -- just don&#039;t make up totally fake stories about kids to do it.

I&#039;m all for bringing home our boys, and reducing U.S. intervention -- and I&#039;d like to hear your plan for minimizing the impact on the region of war-hardened terroristic extremist organizations.

and that&#039;s why I won&#039;t be reading your website, as it will not grapple with those kinds of complex problems.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is identifying someone with their proper label &#8220;name-calling&#8221;? It&#8217;s so typical of peace movements and causes of various kinds that very hardline leftists and extremists hide out in them. They cloak their agenda with a few single-issue or simplistic slogans. You come from a very hardcore extremist political movement, than turns off anyone with half a brain if they read the silly newspapers you distribute on the street or in alternative bookstores, but when a mass movement gets started, you show up to hijack it.</p>
<p>In SL, this is apparently very much easier to do. You can make a t-shirt, plot a movement as &#8220;plot tracer&#8221; and get none other than John Cage of Sun Microsystems, who is the &#8220;Man&#8221; that you would like to &#8220;bring down&#8221; in your silly newspapers, to don that t-shirt.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to expose this sort of stuff as it gets going in SL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet few people showing up at this demo thought they were also showing up for an extremist agenda a la the Spartacist League. They may have wished to protest US involvement in a war, full stop. They may not have wished to embrace Castro and every other rogue tyrant out there, but yet, hooking up with you and your website, now they are. It&#8217;s despicable.</p>
<p>Sectarians with fervent belief systems and doctrinaire programs are always energized to show up, hijack agendas, move among people who are clueless, etc. and take advantage of them. I hate that sort of thing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can get America to stop being a capitalist country. That&#8217;s not only what the majority of people want it to be; it&#8217;s what the millions escaping tyranny and povery from other shores whose regimes you sanctify (like Castro&#8217;s) want it to be. So I&#8217;m afraid that the masses you love to invoke vote with their feet.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think espousing a capitalist or liberal world view is at all sectarian. That&#8217;s because when people are free and have the democratic institutions to chose, they chose it. Socialism has mainly had to be imposed on people by force; when they chose it, they chafe under it and then chose out of it unless they&#8217;re killed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the current issues surrounding the UK&#8217;s missiles, but I have to say, that in Europe, Western Europe is still in the gunsights of the old Soviet Union, which hasn&#8217;t reformed much. Europe now gets 60 percent of its energy from Russia and Central Asia &#8212; it&#8217;s hugely dependent. Even when a Russian ex-psy is poisoned, they are powerless to do anything. So perhaps they hang on to their nukes because they understand deep down the nature of the forces they are dealing with on their continent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve followed bodycount religious. I used to even cite it in my own news stories. But then I began to see they were filling it up with every single unchecked wire story. Wire stories are always inflated, and often get re-filed and corrected a dozen times, but sources that grabbed them the first time don&#8217;t come back and fix them. But what matters isn&#8217;t whether there are 100,000 deaths or 10,000. The war is wrong, and even 1 death is wrong in Iraq. If you are going to bandy about numbers, do keep in mind that terrorists funded by Iran, and various other homegrown insurgents have also contributed to the deaths, and they&#8217;re the ones doing most of the assassinations of intellectuals, doctors, engineers, former governemnt officials, police trainees, current governemnt ministers &#8212; it&#8217;s the extremist believe that you can impose this fascistic form of Islam through murdering the skilled people in the society. I don&#8217;t hear you condemning THAT.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t hear you having a solution for what to do about that murderousness. If U.S. force is clumsy and suspect and tainted &#8212; which it is &#8212; then&#8230;um&#8230;I guess you can leave it to Russia, China, and Sudan to run things. Good luck!</p>
<p>BTW, the &#8220;slaughter of the children&#8221; in Iraq is one of the biggest fake canard stories of all time. Even the Nation debunked that old myth concocted by a few UN third world bureaucrats to try to affect policy. Life expectancy of children was higher in the areas Sadam controlled the least. This story is one of the ones easily refuted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the &#8220;100,000 children&#8221; who were going to be slaughtered when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan or Iraq. Um, it didn&#8217;t happen that way, and not in those numbers, and not for those reasons. Oppose these invasions all you like &#8212; just don&#8217;t make up totally fake stories about kids to do it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for bringing home our boys, and reducing U.S. intervention &#8212; and I&#8217;d like to hear your plan for minimizing the impact on the region of war-hardened terroristic extremist organizations.</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s why I won&#8217;t be reading your website, as it will not grapple with those kinds of complex problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Plot Tracer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/02/sl_capitol_hill.html/comment-page-1#comment-36714</link>
		<dc:creator>Plot Tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Prokofy!  A name calling rant wins hands down.  Of course - you have convinced me that I am wrong (even when you dont seem to understand any of my arguments, as you dont seem to have researched them...).  I shall return to the non -sectarian capitalist creed.  You have convinced me that lobbying is dead in the west.

And a solution?  Well - yes I do think there is a solution - but one you will find too ludicrous to contemplate.... and that is for America to realise that oil profits are miniscule compared to the good will and lives that would be saved if it were to become the state it set out to be - that is one run with the peoples interests at heart rather than the interests of the money man and the priveledged few.  Of course adherence to capitalism is NOT sectarian - and the subsect of capitalism that is liberalism does not fit that description.  A subset that allows money to freely roam the globe finding poor people to exploit - while people are not allowed to leave their own countries as freely (if at all) to find work to feed their families.

By the way, the UK has announced a £100billion replacement of its nukes - nukes that will never be used - and money borne out of the working mans sweat.  How will these nukes benefit the working man?  Well much in the way the old ones did - not a jot.

And as for the man in the Whitehouse and his stooge Blair here in the UK - they can lay claim to over 100 000 deaths (Iraq Body count, the site that only counts the deaths reported by a media afraid to travel in iraq and by govt sources put the figure at over 62000 - still even more than Saddam and his american installed regime - and deaths are now at a rate of 100 a day - a figure unthinkable before the US and UK troops went in to secure the Iraq oil ministry.... erm help the people....cough cough).  These people WOULD NOT have died had Saddam not decided to change his oil currency to euros rather than dollars - as the Iranian Govt recently did, so racking up the US pressure.

Lies lies lies.  And speaking from the first imperialist country to go into the middle east and slaughter for a lie, the lie will not be forgotten - as will the slaughter of children (which started back in Clinton and Majors days - but people seem to think the war in Iraq was a recently started phenomena).  And speaking as someone born in Ireland and having lived there for 27 years - I can assure you, people in the middle east will fight and fight and fight until the yoke of the invader has been lifted.

Solution?  Don&#039;t give them anything to fight about - lets get the hell out and bring home our boys!

http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Prokofy!  A name calling rant wins hands down.  Of course &#8211; you have convinced me that I am wrong (even when you dont seem to understand any of my arguments, as you dont seem to have researched them&#8230;).  I shall return to the non -sectarian capitalist creed.  You have convinced me that lobbying is dead in the west.</p>
<p>And a solution?  Well &#8211; yes I do think there is a solution &#8211; but one you will find too ludicrous to contemplate&#8230;. and that is for America to realise that oil profits are miniscule compared to the good will and lives that would be saved if it were to become the state it set out to be &#8211; that is one run with the peoples interests at heart rather than the interests of the money man and the priveledged few.  Of course adherence to capitalism is NOT sectarian &#8211; and the subsect of capitalism that is liberalism does not fit that description.  A subset that allows money to freely roam the globe finding poor people to exploit &#8211; while people are not allowed to leave their own countries as freely (if at all) to find work to feed their families.</p>
<p>By the way, the UK has announced a £100billion replacement of its nukes &#8211; nukes that will never be used &#8211; and money borne out of the working mans sweat.  How will these nukes benefit the working man?  Well much in the way the old ones did &#8211; not a jot.</p>
<p>And as for the man in the Whitehouse and his stooge Blair here in the UK &#8211; they can lay claim to over 100 000 deaths (Iraq Body count, the site that only counts the deaths reported by a media afraid to travel in iraq and by govt sources put the figure at over 62000 &#8211; still even more than Saddam and his american installed regime &#8211; and deaths are now at a rate of 100 a day &#8211; a figure unthinkable before the US and UK troops went in to secure the Iraq oil ministry&#8230;. erm help the people&#8230;.cough cough).  These people WOULD NOT have died had Saddam not decided to change his oil currency to euros rather than dollars &#8211; as the Iranian Govt recently did, so racking up the US pressure.</p>
<p>Lies lies lies.  And speaking from the first imperialist country to go into the middle east and slaughter for a lie, the lie will not be forgotten &#8211; as will the slaughter of children (which started back in Clinton and Majors days &#8211; but people seem to think the war in Iraq was a recently started phenomena).  And speaking as someone born in Ireland and having lived there for 27 years &#8211; I can assure you, people in the middle east will fight and fight and fight until the yoke of the invader has been lifted.</p>
<p>Solution?  Don&#8217;t give them anything to fight about &#8211; lets get the hell out and bring home our boys!</p>
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		<title>By: Panda</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gee, so a country is civilization is greatly, flamboyantly unjust -- that certainly doesn&#039;t make it an inferior place to live!&quot;

This just shows your complete failure to stick your head outside your own little thought box. If that is the only excuse you need to invade another country, then NO WONDER pursuing atomic power becomes a high priority. It&#039;s the only way to deter US from steamrolling over them to force on them the Only Just, Right, True Way To Live(tm).
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<p>This just shows your complete failure to stick your head outside your own little thought box. If that is the only excuse you need to invade another country, then NO WONDER pursuing atomic power becomes a high priority. It&#8217;s the only way to deter US from steamrolling over them to force on them the Only Just, Right, True Way To Live(tm).</p>
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		<title>By: higgleDpiggle Snoats</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prokofy, no-one in this thread has put forward a convincing argument that war against Iran would be ethically justified, or practically effective.  You may not like the &#039;manner&#039; in which we are raising this issue, but as far as i know, we are the only group as yet attempting to bring this issue to wider attention within SL.  You seem to believe that US foreign policy must only be be criticised tentatively, with equivocation, and conditions. That is fine, if that is the approach you choose.  But the substance of the criticisms themselves remain valid, and must not be glossed over.  The US government has already disastrously pursued regime change in Iraq on a phoney pretext, and it *must* be held fully accountable, not least by its own citizens, and those of its allies, and especially if it is talking about pursuing further military intervention in the region on a bogus moral agenda of &#039;defeating evil&#039;.  If you genuinely want to see these criticisms raised within SL in a way that is more credible in your eyes, then why do you not attempt to organise an alternative political movement, which is able to achieve exactly that?  If you are not prepared to do so yourself, then your constantly ridiculing of those who ARE attempting to take some positive intiative in this direction begins to develop a distinctly hollow ring to it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prokofy, no-one in this thread has put forward a convincing argument that war against Iran would be ethically justified, or practically effective.  You may not like the &#8216;manner&#8217; in which we are raising this issue, but as far as i know, we are the only group as yet attempting to bring this issue to wider attention within SL.  You seem to believe that US foreign policy must only be be criticised tentatively, with equivocation, and conditions. That is fine, if that is the approach you choose.  But the substance of the criticisms themselves remain valid, and must not be glossed over.  The US government has already disastrously pursued regime change in Iraq on a phoney pretext, and it *must* be held fully accountable, not least by its own citizens, and those of its allies, and especially if it is talking about pursuing further military intervention in the region on a bogus moral agenda of &#8216;defeating evil&#8217;.  If you genuinely want to see these criticisms raised within SL in a way that is more credible in your eyes, then why do you not attempt to organise an alternative political movement, which is able to achieve exactly that?  If you are not prepared to do so yourself, then your constantly ridiculing of those who ARE attempting to take some positive intiative in this direction begins to develop a distinctly hollow ring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: LeBlanc</title>
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		<description>Panda: &quot;LeBlanc, nowhere has it been said that the matter of Iran &quot;different opinions&quot;.&quot;

Panda: I would prefer to live in the &quot;Western&quot; part, and someone from the middle-east would probably want to to live in the &quot;Eastern&quot; part. Are you saying my opinion is superior because I&#039;m already a westerner? If so, then you are indeed the retard here&quot;

&quot;No, killing gays for having sex is not justifiable,&quot;

Gee, so a country is civilization is greatly, flamboyantly unjust -- that certainly doesn&#039;t make it an inferior place to live!


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<p>Panda: I would prefer to live in the &#8220;Western&#8221; part, and someone from the middle-east would probably want to to live in the &#8220;Eastern&#8221; part. Are you saying my opinion is superior because I&#8217;m already a westerner? If so, then you are indeed the retard here&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, killing gays for having sex is not justifiable,&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, so a country is civilization is greatly, flamboyantly unjust &#8212; that certainly doesn&#8217;t make it an inferior place to live!</p>
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