So sorry – it seems you’re wrong about that 24-48 hour across the board assumption …. Gee, I guess it all has to do with the volume of information that has to be transfered – imagine that!

Of course the updates will have to be timely, real timely, truly real timely.

Uh, no. First of all, for weeks it has been at 24-48 hours, which has caused absolute havoc.

Secondly, I watch this constantly like a hawk — I have to, as I have a constant flow of customers doing stuff, wanting refunds or wanting moves to larger lots or increases of prims and resets or whatever. So I am here to tell you that that page does not, repeat NOT update in real time. It lagged hours for today for example.

So you’re the one throwing in a falsehood — unless we can speculate that you, with only a few transactions, have a page that does update but I, with hundreds going by, don’t have a page updating. It is not updating in real time!

As Khamon knows, you also seem completely unaware of the fact that this web-based account history always existed for years — in fact it used to go back to the beginning of your US dollar transactions even, but they dumped that in 2005. Again, toggling the pages is wear and tear, and crashy for some. I do it, but I find it uber-annoying.

Khamon, you are so touchingly innocent, believing in HTML on a prim. I wish I had your faith.

Still, I’m hoping that an inworld browser window will allow us to access the web services in the client. Perhaps I should change my title to Immersion Smasher.

Um, that page has been up to the minute for over a week now. When the Account History first disappeared from the First Look viewer a couple weeks back, they said the one on the web page would start being real time on the next Wednesday update, and that’s precisely what happened on the next update, and how it’s been ever since.

Your conspiracy theories are crazy enough already, throwing in outright falsehoods doesn’t help make them more believable.

Now that they’ve made that change, it’s actually a heck of a lot easier and nicer for small business owners like myself. I don’t even have to be in-world (although I can be) toI check up to the minute history. Between that and IM-to-email and back, I can get a lot more done off-line than I could before. I sure am glad that LL not only cares but actually understands the needs of small businesses like mine better than you do.

And yes, individual Lindens have often stated privately, and in small groups, exactly the opposite of the lab’s ultimate intention. I won’t say plan because LL have about as much plan as the Cylons. So if you ask them “do you want to foster an atmostphere and tool set that facilitates the success of inworld business ventures?” they’ll say “of course we’re very committed to exploring the compelling nature of mainland commuuuuunity building.” That commitment includes paying a hundred liasons to help resolve neighborly squabbles in the interest of making the mainland seem attractive. Or am I wrong; do those liasons spend more time aiding estate owners than I think they do?

I’m constantly redoing them and replacing them as a parcel rents and I put in a new one. But what I didn’t realize is that I have to scrupulously check the dates and delete any that weren’t on autorenew.

I noticed a few lots just weren’t getting any TPs and not renting. I thought, hmm, that’s odd, is there something wrong with those lots? Are they stuck on access-only? Do they have prim plywood all over them? I visited them, checked everything, checked the ad (so I thought) and then saw still, nothing happened. I didn’t think to look carefully in the classifieds list itself — sure enough, 3 days of business was lost because the ad wasn’t even visible when I thought it was.

>The barons did not create SL, build the hardware or write the codes that make the experience worthwhile. I don’t see why a couple of people should be able to game the system and make more money than the people who make it all possible in the first place.

Indeed they do create SL — they create the communities and often many of the builds on the sims. And even if they didn’t code the sims they buy, their payments are feeding Linden Lab’s bottom line to the tune of 80 percent. The Lindens have a profit-making system where they sell land. They encourage others to have the same profit-making system. If they didn’t have that system, people wouldn’t bother to develop land. Land would sell very slowly; content creators are 10-15 percent of any population.

This is a capitalist system, even though the Lindens do have fits of socialism at time and have utopian theory that has socialist elements.

Those who don’t like the land baron system have an understable complaint — I’d like to see changes to it myself, mainly by democratizing the auction system so that anyone can put their land on the auction to be bid on to create more resident-to-resident transactions. But the alternative is to make an open source system or clone of SL and pay for servers yourself. Once you have had some fun playing with servers and solving problems Lindens solve about networks and electricity and workers, you’ll find you have to charge for people’s sandboxes too. The Internet isn’t free; it costs something, somewhere.

Khamon, are you saying that they are using some old file that has the 4096s parcelled already along with the old dirt from the core sim as a short cut to get the sims terraformed faster? But there are terraforming scripts that do islands very quickly. Surely they can use those?

>But I don’t think it’s a Linden conspiracy. When we ask individuals, they tell us how much they love the wora’uld and admire the compelling nature of inworld commerce. And, to their credit, they honestly believe that they can, and are working very hard to, maintain Mainland World as a cohesive Second Life community. Even those of us that don’t love this world hack at this subproject. It helps greatly that, after having made the firm decision to produce an ambiguous platform to support any project for all people, LL are willing to continue pouring so much development and support money down the hole.

I’m not grasping this. You mean when you speak to individual Lindens? And what development money do you see them pouring down a rat hole on the mainland?

Me, I’d bring back “First Land” as a parcel of 1024m, and make 1/4 of new sims restricted to people who’ve never bought land before. New land for new landowners. Let everyone get a reasonable shot at having a place to call theirs as a reason to pay the monthly fee. Without any real chance at being able to have decent-sized land and build your own dreamhome, what advantage is there in paying for premium membership? 400L a week? Please – that won’t even buy decent clothing and I can get more lindens for less just by buying them and skipping the whole premium costs.

The barons did not create SL, build the hardware or write the codes that make the experience worthwhile. I don’t see why a couple of people should be able to game the system and make more money than the people who make it all possible in the first place.

Your classified can disappear under classifieds but NOT in your profile. So don’t think that because it is in your profile people can see it.

“Permanent revolution?” SL will never be fixed? You can’t stop the world to stabilize it? Well, that explains a lot.

“Suck it up, and shut up, as the forums trolls will tell you.” Indeed they do. I’m actually bitter about this. When I first joined, I made earnest suggestions for what I thought would be improvements, and gave my opinion on things.

To my surprise, no one wanted to actually discuss these issues, but focused first on explaining to me patiently why I wasn’t supposed to care about these things, and that I just didn’t understand the bigger picture. Then, when I persisted, the remarks became much more hateful and dismissive.

The lesson I learned from that – which I repeat to myself each day when I read the SL forums and hear other, newer players, bringing up these issues – is, “You’re not supposed to care.”

Man, did that get drummed into me. The good news is these fanboys (plain old meanies?) have largely much shut up for some reason. These newer people are allowed to state their opinions without being personally trashed for it. Maybe they just finally became the majority.

But I’m always sitting there, parroting back my lesson – “You’re not supposed to care.” And I think that part is still quite true.

To LL, the end is way more important than the means, and the greater vision always much more important than any individuals.

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