Comments on: Nissan Retools

By: Pompo Bombacci

Pompo Bombacci — Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:48:20 +0000

Lewis Nerd I completely agree with ya dammit!!

Well said!!!!!!

By: C.C.

C.C. — Wed, 02 May 2007 11:12:03 +0000

I’m part of the Virtual Thirst team at crayon and because people were asking about items such as rights and the prize in this thread I wanted to share a video that The Coca-Cola Company has posted in response to these questions.

It can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhJPgHDSeQ if curious.

By: Giff / Forseti

Giff / Forseti — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:18:03 +0000

I wasn’t referring to Uri regarding the quote Cocoa. I knew he didn’t write that quote, but I didn’t even realize it existed in the Nissan press release until I saw Uri’s post.

By: Cocoanut Koala

Cocoanut Koala — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:49:48 +0000

P.S. I’ll save you some time there, Forseti. I stuck that quote into google and got:

http://automotive.eventsquarterly.com/?p=104

Source seems to be Nissan. I think you would need to take up the innacuracies with them, rather than Uri.

coco

By: Cocoanut Koala

Cocoanut Koala — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:22:44 +0000

Forseti, I have asked some questions of you over on the SL forums, if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at those. They are in the “automated burglary” thread.

coco

By: Giff / Forseti

Giff / Forseti — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:49:29 +0000

Actually Uri, I never said or approved that quote, but that is a WHOLE other topic I now get to look into. Leave it to the Herald to bring some drama into my life. I am not the founder of ESC, by the way; Sibley Verbeck, our CEO, is the founder.

The open source scripts of the contraptions are not intended for the mass audience, but rather the vehicle community in SL. You don’t need to care about scripting to have fun with either the new flying car or the gadgets dreamed up by Kage, Kanker and Calum.

btw, I don’t mind it when Uri criticizes Sheep projects. There’s usually more to the story than gets presented, and his conjecture like in the above story is invariably wrong, but we’re always trying to get better.

By: Black Pot

Black Pot — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:41:27 +0000

Dunno, but after watching him light into the sheep for going on half a year now, it really seems he’s more a mole for millions of us.
plus, I mean come one: coke has done some great things for other nations, like south africa under apartheid! Think of all the white people they used to help!
Does this mean that every time uri criticizes some company in sl he should be giving full disclosure that he’s a mouthpiece for coke, crayon and mou? Or will he just hide under the idea that tabloid blogging isn’t serious journalism, or that it is new journalism like amanda congdon with Dow? Can’t wait to see.
Oh and by the way, overcompensating as a blogger/journalist by criticizing a contest you were paid to participate in is journalism conflict of interest 101. Unless you plan to refund coke, you should really just remain quiet because nothing you say on that score can be taken seriously, tongue-in-cheek aside. You lost your voice there, unfortunately.

By: urizenus

urizenus — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:20:30 +0000

Who says the Herald *won’t* criticize the contest? Indeed, why don’t you write an Op/Ed so we don’t have to wait?

By: kettlelover

kettlelover — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:24:41 +0000

>No one is being forced to enter the virtual thirst contest.

Well this is certainly true but not relevant it seems to me; no one was forced to look at the old Nissan build,(and indeed perhaps no one would have had the Herald not made such a big deal out of it) but you still criticized it. No one was forced to join the Edelman contest, but you still criticized it.

I can’t imagine that you don’t understand how silly this all looks. You make a big cyber-splash by calling marketers ‘fucktards,’ for their hyperventilation about SL, cluelessness and use of real-world techniques in this very surreal space, and their false first claims. You tear apart Edelman for offering a totally nominal prize and claiming ownership of the business plans their contestants submitted.

Flash forward 6 months:
You join up with Coca Cola, presumably because they’ve got some of this right. But certainly nobody thinks that Coke is a particularly well-behaved company (especially not people in India). And they offer a similar prize in which individuals lose the rights to their work. And probably somewhere or other they’ve made the mistake of claiming some of this stuff ‘first’.

So what’s the story here? Did you just give up? Or (I hope I hope I hope) are you a mole for us good guys?

By: urizenus

urizenus — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:38:17 +0000

No one is being forced to enter the virtual thirst contest. if people think the prize is worth it (given the surrender of IP rights) then they will enter, and if they don’t they won’t. If *you* don’t think its worth it, then don’t enter.

I recommended a prize of one million Linden dollars in addition to the SF trip. You’ll have to ask Coke and Crayon why they did what they did. They heard what I said and did otherwise. I understand that they have their reasons.