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		<title>By: Nbkvqdx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nbkvqdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://5.freesexxnet.info x
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		<title>By: Inigo Chamerberlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inigo Chamerberlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 07:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;it set up the slippery slope that will make SL obey *every* law in *every* country.

Heh! Any Saudi residents out there? Hope not for your sake! :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;it set up the slippery slope that will make SL obey *every* law in *every* country.</p>
<p>Heh! Any Saudi residents out there? Hope not for your sake! <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is reasonable for adults (of any country) to be concerned that they may be inadvertently getting into a sexual relationship with a minor.

I hardly think that&#039;s a concern to make fun of.

coco
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is reasonable for adults (of any country) to be concerned that they may be inadvertently getting into a sexual relationship with a minor.</p>
<p>I hardly think that&#8217;s a concern to make fun of.</p>
<p>coco</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on... &quot;metaverse pedo-community&quot;... thats extreme even for this gutter rag. Not all age-players are pedo, if they were all the married couples who play school girl in the bedroom would be. No?

I think it&#039;s a good thing though, it shows that the Lindens are doing exactly what I said they would when those bible bashing idiots went after the kid community, it set up the slippery slope that will make SL obey *every* law in *every* country.

If cartoon kid sex is illegal in one country and the Lindens close it down then it is only right and fair that gambling, illegal in some countries, is also closed just as firmly. Also any account that asserts

Likewise with furs (beastiality), Gor (Slavery), Vamp (Necrophillia), Mafia (murder and crime) and so onthey play in casino should be closed.

The Lindens *must* stamp out all Metaverse activity that is not Male, Human, 21, Buffed Blonde Model Looks, Straight and American based.

I am cheering that now we will finally have voice chat to allow confirmation of sex and also a method to allow confirmation of true age and country (or even state) of origin. This is a great thing and one that will go a long way to ease paranoia for those Americans who dread the thought they might be in the same sim as a 17 year old Iraqi. Heaven forbid!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on&#8230; &#8220;metaverse pedo-community&#8221;&#8230; thats extreme even for this gutter rag. Not all age-players are pedo, if they were all the married couples who play school girl in the bedroom would be. No?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a good thing though, it shows that the Lindens are doing exactly what I said they would when those bible bashing idiots went after the kid community, it set up the slippery slope that will make SL obey *every* law in *every* country.</p>
<p>If cartoon kid sex is illegal in one country and the Lindens close it down then it is only right and fair that gambling, illegal in some countries, is also closed just as firmly. Also any account that asserts</p>
<p>Likewise with furs (beastiality), Gor (Slavery), Vamp (Necrophillia), Mafia (murder and crime) and so onthey play in casino should be closed.</p>
<p>The Lindens *must* stamp out all Metaverse activity that is not Male, Human, 21, Buffed Blonde Model Looks, Straight and American based.</p>
<p>I am cheering that now we will finally have voice chat to allow confirmation of sex and also a method to allow confirmation of true age and country (or even state) of origin. This is a great thing and one that will go a long way to ease paranoia for those Americans who dread the thought they might be in the same sim as a 17 year old Iraqi. Heaven forbid!</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling makes up a big part of the economy. My own estimate is that it has to be at least 25 percent or more. Why? Because in the old days, a year ago, when the Lindens ran a streaming ticker on the front page of &quot;last 10 things bought in world,&quot; a big chunk of them was gambling related. Of course sex-related, too, but that&#039;s just it -- most typical SL emporiums combine sex, casinos, dance-pads/camp-chairs, and vending of clothing, so it&#039;s hard to say which thing really makes the most, when they all feed into each other.

I personally took down most of my casino objects long ago, because I didn&#039;t like two things about them: the frightful way in which newbies would pour huge amounts of money into them, which I felt bad to be contributing to -- the old &quot;Lost Wages&quot; problem of &quot;Los Vegas&quot; -- and the fact that a few people figured out how to game them or exploit them, and I&#039;d find them suddenly hitting me and taking a slot machine down for its total 3 times in a row using a rapid succession of buy amounts. So I just removed all but the ones that seemed sort of more fun than usual, like &quot;FICer Picker&quot; and the horse racing.

I wonder if we are to understand these new policies to mean we should completely remove all casino objects, even if not advertised anywhere.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling makes up a big part of the economy. My own estimate is that it has to be at least 25 percent or more. Why? Because in the old days, a year ago, when the Lindens ran a streaming ticker on the front page of &#8220;last 10 things bought in world,&#8221; a big chunk of them was gambling related. Of course sex-related, too, but that&#8217;s just it &#8212; most typical SL emporiums combine sex, casinos, dance-pads/camp-chairs, and vending of clothing, so it&#8217;s hard to say which thing really makes the most, when they all feed into each other.</p>
<p>I personally took down most of my casino objects long ago, because I didn&#8217;t like two things about them: the frightful way in which newbies would pour huge amounts of money into them, which I felt bad to be contributing to &#8212; the old &#8220;Lost Wages&#8221; problem of &#8220;Los Vegas&#8221; &#8212; and the fact that a few people figured out how to game them or exploit them, and I&#8217;d find them suddenly hitting me and taking a slot machine down for its total 3 times in a row using a rapid succession of buy amounts. So I just removed all but the ones that seemed sort of more fun than usual, like &#8220;FICer Picker&#8221; and the horse racing.</p>
<p>I wonder if we are to understand these new policies to mean we should completely remove all casino objects, even if not advertised anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Babu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Babu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the &quot;officious linden blawg&quot; a lot of the responses seem to think casino owners rake in the big bucks. Some probably do - some probably cheat. But I&#039;ve found that the more popular places have been big loss leaders for the owners, serving as a meeting place to play games with people you enjoy the company of and/or for newbies with no means of earning L$ in-game to make a few for spending. In fact, that&#039;s how I made rent money to rent my first plot of land where I learned to build and script.

I don&#039;t think that restricting the language of ads will close down the casino culture here - what worries me is the A/S/L &quot;age/identity/jurisdiction&quot; thing. How will this be implemented?

&quot;Your papers please, sir. Yes, they all *seem* to be in order but we must detain you for improper dress code (lolipop and shorts). Please accompany me to the National Normalization and Reform Building for your rehabilitation. I see by your jurisdiction that you live in Rocinante, TN. A federal agent will visit your residence within 3 days to confirm your illegalities and take any action deemed necessary under US law. In the meantime your AV will be well cared for at the Normalization Reform Building. Have a nice day.&quot;

(heading over to my account website to fux with it some - why, of course I live in freakin&#039; Bangla-Desh, my name now Immibi Suliman - me spick no inglich)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the &#8220;officious linden blawg&#8221; a lot of the responses seem to think casino owners rake in the big bucks. Some probably do &#8211; some probably cheat. But I&#8217;ve found that the more popular places have been big loss leaders for the owners, serving as a meeting place to play games with people you enjoy the company of and/or for newbies with no means of earning L$ in-game to make a few for spending. In fact, that&#8217;s how I made rent money to rent my first plot of land where I learned to build and script.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that restricting the language of ads will close down the casino culture here &#8211; what worries me is the A/S/L &#8220;age/identity/jurisdiction&#8221; thing. How will this be implemented?</p>
<p>&#8220;Your papers please, sir. Yes, they all *seem* to be in order but we must detain you for improper dress code (lolipop and shorts). Please accompany me to the National Normalization and Reform Building for your rehabilitation. I see by your jurisdiction that you live in Rocinante, TN. A federal agent will visit your residence within 3 days to confirm your illegalities and take any action deemed necessary under US law. In the meantime your AV will be well cared for at the Normalization Reform Building. Have a nice day.&#8221;</p>
<p>(heading over to my account website to fux with it some &#8211; why, of course I live in freakin&#8217; Bangla-Desh, my name now Immibi Suliman &#8211; me spick no inglich)</p>
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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
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		<dc:creator>shockwave yareach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just taking the word &quot;casino&quot; off the search engines is a &quot;weasel step&quot;, designed to keep the weasels from blaming LL.  If it works, then fine.

But I begin to suspect we citizens of SL need to build a second, offsite SEARCH for the &#039;banned&#039; stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just taking the word &#8220;casino&#8221; off the search engines is a &#8220;weasel step&#8221;, designed to keep the weasels from blaming LL.  If it works, then fine.</p>
<p>But I begin to suspect we citizens of SL need to build a second, offsite SEARCH for the &#8216;banned&#8217; stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: urizenus</title>
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		<dc:creator>urizenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a little experiment that I conducted, 80% of the money changing hands  (&quot;dollars spent&quot; in Linden speak) was gambling related.  That means that when LL says 1 million lindens was spent, it 800,000 L of that was money moving back and forth between gamblers and gambling machines.  Obviously, a Linden is passed back and forth quite a few times before the house finally gets to keep it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a little experiment that I conducted, 80% of the money changing hands  (&#8220;dollars spent&#8221; in Linden speak) was gambling related.  That means that when LL says 1 million lindens was spent, it 800,000 L of that was money moving back and forth between gamblers and gambling machines.  Obviously, a Linden is passed back and forth quite a few times before the house finally gets to keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis Fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemis Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting, because Casinos seem to pay a lot to SL.  I mean, a lot of the top paying classifieds are from casinos, but then, I don&#039;t know if LL can sell lindens.  So maybe the classifieds makes them no money whatsoever.

Really though, i&#039;d say besides the classifieds potentially giving lots of money to LL, they don&#039;t add much of anything to the economy, rather take money out of the economy by ripping off newbies who might otherwise spend money on stores, and using it for advertising or classified adds or whatever they spend their money on.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I doubt it&#039;ll stop any casino owners from operating, they&#039;ll just have to figure out a way to operate differently to get around it like the ageplayers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting, because Casinos seem to pay a lot to SL.  I mean, a lot of the top paying classifieds are from casinos, but then, I don&#8217;t know if LL can sell lindens.  So maybe the classifieds makes them no money whatsoever.</p>
<p>Really though, i&#8217;d say besides the classifieds potentially giving lots of money to LL, they don&#8217;t add much of anything to the economy, rather take money out of the economy by ripping off newbies who might otherwise spend money on stores, and using it for advertising or classified adds or whatever they spend their money on.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I doubt it&#8217;ll stop any casino owners from operating, they&#8217;ll just have to figure out a way to operate differently to get around it like the ageplayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Onder Skall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onder Skall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does anyone know how much Gambling contributes to the SL economy?&quot;

Actually, nobody knows anything. The claim is USUALLY that SL&#039;s economy is entirely based upon sex, but that claim is generally made only when sex is in the news. There are no reliable statistics here, and any guesses are easy to pick apart and criticize.

So for all we know, if the casinos disappeared tomorrow everything would be fine... or explode... either/or.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does anyone know how much Gambling contributes to the SL economy?&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, nobody knows anything. The claim is USUALLY that SL&#8217;s economy is entirely based upon sex, but that claim is generally made only when sex is in the news. There are no reliable statistics here, and any guesses are easy to pick apart and criticize.</p>
<p>So for all we know, if the casinos disappeared tomorrow everything would be fine&#8230; or explode&#8230; either/or.</p>
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