Sincerely, thank you for making it worth reading this far down the page. My eyeballs were starting to bleed. The message in your re-engagement in the thread has made me feel that your original point, way up there, was worth making.

“In years to come, some people may look back and be ashamed of their behaviour here.” – Simondo Nebestanka, April 11 2007.

That fellow, even though not qualified to make such a broad statement, sums things up quite well I feel. I may have taken his words out of context, as he was reacting to being hit with a parking ticket AND an overdue video fine on the same day, but yes, he’s on the right track there.

Peace.

I did say that. And I apologize. What I should have said is…well,what does it matter now? I learned since then not to become agitated at either you or Prok’s particular brand of fuzzy logic. And being a medical professional does not preclude me from thinking some people are screaming assholes and need to be culled from the herd.

I sincerely think at times you have a head on your shoulders and can bring insights to this thread. But when you become a Prok puppet and mouthpiece, you will open yourself to a barrage of comments and garbage such as I posted to you before.

I am sorry that I told you to die in a fire. Now please leave me the fuck out of your drama.

SunShine

False. A more accurate statement would be :

“Both Josh and Arahan are extremely attractive and have enormous penises. Anyone can see that.”

Whatever clamminess she felt most assuredly didn’t come from me.

Also, Prok, if you “don’t go up to strange people and introduce myself,” who do you introduce yourself to? Do you only introduce yourself to people you already know, and if so, uh, why?

To give you an example: There is this really clever guy who does my taxes, and he manages to have me pay less than i would do on my own. Tax laws are obviously much more accesible to him than to me. However there is neither a law nor a custom that would stop me from aquiring a similar qualification myself. I just would need a lot of spare time to do this. Since i do not have the time i pay said guy for it.

On the other hand C/C++-code is much more accessible to me, than to most people, because i happen to have learned programming and had enough opportunity to practice it. There is however neither law nor custom that would stop you from aquiring the skills to work directly with the code. Furthermore and more important, there is neither law nor custom that would stop you from adapting free software in any way it suits you. If you do not have the time to learn it yourself, you can always pay someone who has the needed skills to do it for you. Closed source software will not allow you to this simply because you lack the source code. Several variations of open source software will not allow you to do this because they are under a license that restricts in what way you can use the source code or a program compiled from this source code.

Art, the point about open source is a point about the open source project generally and not just the open sourcing of the SL client.

As for Prok, he’s here for the signal not the noise. I’m sorry that you don’t find the signal compelling. I do.

Uh….no they don’t. What the Open Source allows you to do is change the viewer, not change the world. Any changes you make to the viewer are only available to those who download and use the viewers.

So i’m still confused as to how “the observation that “open source” is not really all that open, since it is only open to the technical elite that, as it were, know the secret handshakes.” fits into anything Prokofy is saying.

“Of course anyone who challenges this is ridiculed and called crazy and insane and a cat lady or whatever, but the critique is absolutely positively valid and important and I am grateful that there are people like Prok who can stand up to the ridicule and make the argument.”

I can’t speak for other people, but i’ve always argued Prokofy directly on the points initially, only when he has no point, or when he does his trademarked “lalalala i’m not listening!” form of typing and I have to repeat myself over and over, do I start getting irritated and resorting to more direct ridicule.

“It’s too bad that Prok gets sucked into these meaningless personal disputes with people like Josh.”

Saying he gets “sucked into” them, insinuates that he is an innocent victim, which anyone looking at the history of his threats and lies would see that Prokofy is almost always the person starting any personal conflict, because it seems to be extremely hard for him to hold a debate without personally attacking the subject. Even when he just started posting on the old forums he was calling people pigheaded fuckers.

But I understand the secrecy, the freak-show can’t know he’s the side-show freak attraction, or he might leave and go back to his blog.