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		<title>By: Hank Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome prok! :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome prok! <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Zmajrax</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/no_worky.html/comment-page-2#comment-30996</link>
		<dc:creator>Zmajrax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hazim Gazov</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/no_worky.html/comment-page-2#comment-30995</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazim Gazov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, the last poster was just a tad mentally retarded. He meant brought to you by ebaumsworld.com
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		<title>By: Anonylol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonylol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prokofy, you are not a competent journalist. Stop acting like you have a fucking clue as to what you&#039;re talking about.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prokofy, you are not a competent journalist. Stop acting like you have a fucking clue as to what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: The 9th Circuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 9th Circuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 03:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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Of course camping chairs are worthless.  Anyone trying to somehow support camping chairs is utterly clueless.

All camping chairs do is eat up all of the resources of a sim with afk zombies.  How anyone can muster up the energy to support this completely worthless piece of crap concept is either gaming the system themselves, is marketing trash masquerading for merchandise/product, or has no marketing business savvy/is too lazy to use their imagination to market their business without the help of an outside entity like LL.

I have an idea for you.  Why don&#039;t you grow a brain? hmmm?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course camping chairs are worthless.  Anyone trying to somehow support camping chairs is utterly clueless.</p>
<p>All camping chairs do is eat up all of the resources of a sim with afk zombies.  How anyone can muster up the energy to support this completely worthless piece of crap concept is either gaming the system themselves, is marketing trash masquerading for merchandise/product, or has no marketing business savvy/is too lazy to use their imagination to market their business without the help of an outside entity like LL.</p>
<p>I have an idea for you.  Why don&#8217;t you grow a brain? hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis Fate</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/no_worky.html/comment-page-2#comment-30992</link>
		<dc:creator>Artemis Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 22:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Only parody, satire, and polemicization -- not some kind of wire-service straight journalism -- works on a country like this where they make things in secret, keep you in the dark, change things that effect you profoundly without your participation AND get you to pay for all of this, with poor performance to boot.

If you want &quot;journalism&quot; go to Reuters or SLNN or wherever, and stop complaining about the style of community journalist that works for this world.&quot;

Yeah, it&#039;s working VERY well.  Most people think you&#039;re a crazy jackass, and the rest just think you&#039;re a jackass so assuming you&#039;re trying for that, you&#039;re doing a very good job.  Now the Herald just needs some reporters to tell us what&#039;s going on, not what they BELIEVE is going on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only parody, satire, and polemicization &#8212; not some kind of wire-service straight journalism &#8212; works on a country like this where they make things in secret, keep you in the dark, change things that effect you profoundly without your participation AND get you to pay for all of this, with poor performance to boot.</p>
<p>If you want &#8220;journalism&#8221; go to Reuters or SLNN or wherever, and stop complaining about the style of community journalist that works for this world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s working VERY well.  Most people think you&#8217;re a crazy jackass, and the rest just think you&#8217;re a jackass so assuming you&#8217;re trying for that, you&#8217;re doing a very good job.  Now the Herald just needs some reporters to tell us what&#8217;s going on, not what they BELIEVE is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*They are not demonstrably *going to make something better, but will very likely make something worse.

Proof of my point: campchairs became worse, more aggressive, and more widespread AFTER they removed the Developers&#039; Awards designed to get rid of them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*They are not demonstrably *going to make something better, but will very likely make something worse.</p>
<p>Proof of my point: campchairs became worse, more aggressive, and more widespread AFTER they removed the Developers&#8217; Awards designed to get rid of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Perhaps more to the point . . .does anyone know what the new search ordering algorithm is to be? If not traffic, what? Relevance? That would just spawn an avalanche of keywords, accurate or not.

Obscure, you&#039;re just not GETTING IT. You don&#039;t see that to keep asking questions like this is ABSURD. Because they do not tell you, and may not know that themselves.

They have NOT TOLD US this information. They should, of course, if they&#039;re going to do something like whack the economy with a big stick to shake off campchairs and traffic in general but they don&#039;t. They don&#039;t care. The inworld economy is a by-product of what they are doing. They don&#039;t really give a good goddamn whether search works. &quot;Someone will make everything,&quot; Philip Linden says impatiently. Sure, someone will make a search, someday. It will have a way of ranking, and that will be hotly argued about, and tweaked, or ignored, or it won&#039;t matter.

And duh, because even those of us not tekkie enough to follow everything about algoriths DO realize that return by relevance/clicking/keywords will spawn avalanches of concentrated Google bombing, we are objecting to what they are doing. Because they are not demonstrably.

Only parody, satire, and polemicization -- not some kind of wire-service straight journalism -- works on a country like this where they make things in secret, keep you in the dark, change things that effect you profoundly without your participation AND get you to pay for all of this, with poor performance to boot.

If you want &quot;journalism&quot; go to Reuters or SLNN or wherever, and stop complaining about the style of community journalist that works for this world.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Perhaps more to the point . . .does anyone know what the new search ordering algorithm is to be? If not traffic, what? Relevance? That would just spawn an avalanche of keywords, accurate or not.</p>
<p>Obscure, you&#8217;re just not GETTING IT. You don&#8217;t see that to keep asking questions like this is ABSURD. Because they do not tell you, and may not know that themselves.</p>
<p>They have NOT TOLD US this information. They should, of course, if they&#8217;re going to do something like whack the economy with a big stick to shake off campchairs and traffic in general but they don&#8217;t. They don&#8217;t care. The inworld economy is a by-product of what they are doing. They don&#8217;t really give a good goddamn whether search works. &#8220;Someone will make everything,&#8221; Philip Linden says impatiently. Sure, someone will make a search, someday. It will have a way of ranking, and that will be hotly argued about, and tweaked, or ignored, or it won&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>And duh, because even those of us not tekkie enough to follow everything about algoriths DO realize that return by relevance/clicking/keywords will spawn avalanches of concentrated Google bombing, we are objecting to what they are doing. Because they are not demonstrably.</p>
<p>Only parody, satire, and polemicization &#8212; not some kind of wire-service straight journalism &#8212; works on a country like this where they make things in secret, keep you in the dark, change things that effect you profoundly without your participation AND get you to pay for all of this, with poor performance to boot.</p>
<p>If you want &#8220;journalism&#8221; go to Reuters or SLNN or wherever, and stop complaining about the style of community journalist that works for this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis Fate</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/no_worky.html/comment-page-2#comment-30989</link>
		<dc:creator>Artemis Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Once removed, how will one judge the list of websites that will suddenly srpawl across my screne? How will I know &quot;Ooh, almost assuredly camping Chairs or Gambling or Whatever there, I&#039;ll go over here&quot; or &quot;Oh, this store looks neat, and has very lower traffic so is probably new&quot;. These are choices and decisions actual people are making using the system as it exist. Remove it and you remove a source of information that the people utilizing SL for the actual &#039;stuff&#039; of SL, the Cyber-Sex, the Yiffing, the Horseback Riding, Blowing Things Up, Chatting, Dancing, the Gorean RP, the crafting of Giant Robots that Look cool for the Sake of Lookign Cool and so forth, are using.&quot;

You&#039;re right!  If only there were some way to put in some sort of &quot;keyword&quot; to search for what you want, instead of that old outdated traffic only search.  Perhaps the Lindens ought to make a system where you can search for places by this, &quot;keyword&quot; if you will, like camping, horseback riding, blowing things up, chatting dancing, and gorean RP, and get a list of
results.

&quot;Artemis, we already long since got your point: as an IRC channeller, tekki, builder for the Sheep, blah blah blah, you have a different set of views than me. But you&#039;re not &quot;right&quot; any more than you believe me not to be &quot;right&quot;. Get over yourself.&quot;

Let me translate for the people who don&#039;t speak Prokofian:

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;Artemis, I don&#039;t really listen, but I think you go to IRC, and you build for the sheep, and therefore i&#039;ve decided you are evil and what your views are based on who you&#039;re around, not what you say.  Therefore you&#039;re not right, because I am the just crusader of light.  Get over yourself.&quot;

&quot;This is a fact. They are embarrassed. It&#039;s been discussed all over the Internet. If you missed it, well, you&#039;re oblivious, and now that you work for one of these metaversal agencies, suspect in your claims.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;This is something I made up, but am so deluded I can only see it as a fact.  God knows I couldn&#039;t quote a source or two, being the super-journalist I see myself as.  So i&#039;m just going to perpetrate it as a fact and then throw some insults out as my source, that&#039;s how journalism works right?&quot;

&quot;I promote my viewpoint, yes, I can be reliably depended upon to do that : )&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;I never change my mind because I believe I am always right.  You can never be wrong if you believe yourself to always be right, sometimes in my case though I have to wish upon like, 20 shooting stars.&quot;

&quot;Truth hurts, Artemis.&quot;

So does getting hit in the face with Manure

&quot;Um, no, I assault them for trying to get rid of a public metric that helps the world just to kill the messenger of the news that yeah, newbies need jobs and want in on the economy, and that yeah, somebody other than Adam Zaius wants to be at the top of the classifieds list? hello? hell, yeah.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;I&#039;m going to try to be demeaning and pretend like what I said is already a well-accepted fact, this largely makes me look ridiculous, but I think it&#039;s a risk worth taking.&quot;

&quot;You aren&#039;t making sense.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;What?  Oh, sorry, I was talking to myself again.&quot;

&quot;No, traffic, when it isn&#039;t gamed, which is 90 percent of the time on 90 percent of the lots, is fine as a metric, a good public measure of merit and and accountability. Hardly a game, that.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;Nothing makes for a good journalist like making up statistics on the spot!&quot;

&quot;BOY are you in for a surprise!&quot;

I imagine so will be your friends and family when you have to tell them you&#039;re schizophrenic, no...wait, that wouldn&#039;t be surprising for them at all.  Never mind.

&quot;Who says anything about helping newbies? They objectively help newbies by paying them. But they help themselves by having those same payouts come right back in the form of casino takings or in vendor sales. But it&#039;s all consenting adults, eh?
So, away with your net-nannying please.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;Despite making the same claims against camping chairs, i&#039;m going to wittily switch my view so I can attack my opponent for the same points that I made!  Oh ho ho, Prokofy you are the clever one!&quot;

&quot;I&#039;m chuckling to myself, since I know a great deal more about this than you do now, or forever, but it&#039;s not important, you only look stupid making comments like that.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;I&#039;m chuckling to myself, because I can never stop laughing.  My cats keep telling great jokes to me.  But also, it gives me time to be demeaning on a subject I don&#039;t really have the right to be on.  But hey, as long as I BELIEVE i&#039;m a journalist and believe I know a lot about journalism, despite ALL evidence to the contrary, that still makes me a journalist right?&quot;

&quot;You seem to fail to grasp the point: journalism *of this sort* is just the ticket for a closed, controlled, synthetic world. Just the ticket.&quot;

Translation:
&gt;&gt;&quot;Can&#039;t you see that I am the great and mighty savior of the metaverse?  I mean, I don&#039;t dress in these pajamas and carry around this wooden sword for nothing.  My words help liberate countries, my insults are like sledgehammers to the walls of injustice!  Remember those walls?  The ones I created here when people disagreed with me!  Oh if only you could see my glory as the only savior of this dark and twisted world.  But one day, statues of me will be put up in every park, and no one will be allowed to say one dissenting word to my glory, oh yes, this will be the day of true justice!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once removed, how will one judge the list of websites that will suddenly srpawl across my screne? How will I know &#8220;Ooh, almost assuredly camping Chairs or Gambling or Whatever there, I&#8217;ll go over here&#8221; or &#8220;Oh, this store looks neat, and has very lower traffic so is probably new&#8221;. These are choices and decisions actual people are making using the system as it exist. Remove it and you remove a source of information that the people utilizing SL for the actual &#8216;stuff&#8217; of SL, the Cyber-Sex, the Yiffing, the Horseback Riding, Blowing Things Up, Chatting, Dancing, the Gorean RP, the crafting of Giant Robots that Look cool for the Sake of Lookign Cool and so forth, are using.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right!  If only there were some way to put in some sort of &#8220;keyword&#8221; to search for what you want, instead of that old outdated traffic only search.  Perhaps the Lindens ought to make a system where you can search for places by this, &#8220;keyword&#8221; if you will, like camping, horseback riding, blowing things up, chatting dancing, and gorean RP, and get a list of<br />
results.</p>
<p>&#8220;Artemis, we already long since got your point: as an IRC channeller, tekki, builder for the Sheep, blah blah blah, you have a different set of views than me. But you&#8217;re not &#8220;right&#8221; any more than you believe me not to be &#8220;right&#8221;. Get over yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me translate for the people who don&#8217;t speak Prokofian:</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;Artemis, I don&#8217;t really listen, but I think you go to IRC, and you build for the sheep, and therefore i&#8217;ve decided you are evil and what your views are based on who you&#8217;re around, not what you say.  Therefore you&#8217;re not right, because I am the just crusader of light.  Get over yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a fact. They are embarrassed. It&#8217;s been discussed all over the Internet. If you missed it, well, you&#8217;re oblivious, and now that you work for one of these metaversal agencies, suspect in your claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;This is something I made up, but am so deluded I can only see it as a fact.  God knows I couldn&#8217;t quote a source or two, being the super-journalist I see myself as.  So i&#8217;m just going to perpetrate it as a fact and then throw some insults out as my source, that&#8217;s how journalism works right?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I promote my viewpoint, yes, I can be reliably depended upon to do that : )&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;I never change my mind because I believe I am always right.  You can never be wrong if you believe yourself to always be right, sometimes in my case though I have to wish upon like, 20 shooting stars.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Truth hurts, Artemis.&#8221;</p>
<p>So does getting hit in the face with Manure</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, no, I assault them for trying to get rid of a public metric that helps the world just to kill the messenger of the news that yeah, newbies need jobs and want in on the economy, and that yeah, somebody other than Adam Zaius wants to be at the top of the classifieds list? hello? hell, yeah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;I&#8217;m going to try to be demeaning and pretend like what I said is already a well-accepted fact, this largely makes me look ridiculous, but I think it&#8217;s a risk worth taking.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You aren&#8217;t making sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;What?  Oh, sorry, I was talking to myself again.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, traffic, when it isn&#8217;t gamed, which is 90 percent of the time on 90 percent of the lots, is fine as a metric, a good public measure of merit and and accountability. Hardly a game, that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;Nothing makes for a good journalist like making up statistics on the spot!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;BOY are you in for a surprise!&#8221;</p>
<p>I imagine so will be your friends and family when you have to tell them you&#8217;re schizophrenic, no&#8230;wait, that wouldn&#8217;t be surprising for them at all.  Never mind.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who says anything about helping newbies? They objectively help newbies by paying them. But they help themselves by having those same payouts come right back in the form of casino takings or in vendor sales. But it&#8217;s all consenting adults, eh?<br />
So, away with your net-nannying please.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>Despite making the same claims against camping chairs, i&#8217;m going to wittily switch my view so I can attack my opponent for the same points that I made!  Oh ho ho, Prokofy you are the clever one!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m chuckling to myself, since I know a great deal more about this than you do now, or forever, but it&#8217;s not important, you only look stupid making comments like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;I&#8217;m chuckling to myself, because I can never stop laughing.  My cats keep telling great jokes to me.  But also, it gives me time to be demeaning on a subject I don&#8217;t really have the right to be on.  But hey, as long as I BELIEVE i&#8217;m a journalist and believe I know a lot about journalism, despite ALL evidence to the contrary, that still makes me a journalist right?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You seem to fail to grasp the point: journalism *of this sort* is just the ticket for a closed, controlled, synthetic world. Just the ticket.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:<br />
>>&#8221;Can&#8217;t you see that I am the great and mighty savior of the metaverse?  I mean, I don&#8217;t dress in these pajamas and carry around this wooden sword for nothing.  My words help liberate countries, my insults are like sledgehammers to the walls of injustice!  Remember those walls?  The ones I created here when people disagreed with me!  Oh if only you could see my glory as the only savior of this dark and twisted world.  But one day, statues of me will be put up in every park, and no one will be allowed to say one dissenting word to my glory, oh yes, this will be the day of true justice!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/no_worky.html/comment-page-2#comment-30988</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 12:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebel,

Re: &quot;Word of mouth, brand building, and visibility all lend towards your target market arriving at your shop. Now, I do think Cory sort of threw the baby out with the bathwater with this announcement.&quot;

Ok, go ahead, run your business just on that alone, as if you were deep in the dark Middle Ages, with men in tights, like a MMORPG game, oops, you are...

He threw out the entire bath tub with this one.
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<p>Re: &#8220;Word of mouth, brand building, and visibility all lend towards your target market arriving at your shop. Now, I do think Cory sort of threw the baby out with the bathwater with this announcement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, go ahead, run your business just on that alone, as if you were deep in the dark Middle Ages, with men in tights, like a MMORPG game, oops, you are&#8230;</p>
<p>He threw out the entire bath tub with this one.</p>
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