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	<title>Comments on: Op/Ed: Philip Linden&#8217;s Folly</title>
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		<title>By: archie lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>archie lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UK data protection Act would make it illegal to sell customer information.

However if they get you to sign a disclaimer telling you that the data will be held in the US, where they have no respect or laws for data privacy - you are basically shafted.

Spam was a US initiative
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<p>However if they get you to sign a disclaimer telling you that the data will be held in the US, where they have no respect or laws for data privacy &#8211; you are basically shafted.</p>
<p>Spam was a US initiative</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Ay</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Ay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, in a few hours, one of the largest private TV-Station in Germany (RTL 22:15 German Time) know for there &quot;Yellow Press&quot; attitude is bringing another SL-ChildPorn report.

Titel : &quot;Brutale Welt: Kindesmissbrauch und Folter in “Second Life”.
Warum die Justiz machtlos ist.&quot;

loosely translated to

Title : &quot;Brutal World: Childmolesting and Torture in &#039;Second Life&#039;.
And the reason why Justice is helpless&quot;

That will bring the news to much more people who have no idea of what SL is (usually called Main-Stream, or Pop&amp;Mom). The whole thing is going to run out of control.

Linden Lab, I think this is too late, that you can do anything anymore. Wait a couple of weeks and then see Islands like &quot;Mercedes&quot; and &quot;BMW&quot; and other German Companies closing. That will be the beginning of the End.

And still nothing in the Blog of Linden Lab, nothing, since Thursday.
Get up people, you can not stick your head into the sand and wait until it is over.

TJ Ay
(sorry for my bad english, smile.)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem, in a few hours, one of the largest private TV-Station in Germany (RTL 22:15 German Time) know for there &#8220;Yellow Press&#8221; attitude is bringing another SL-ChildPorn report.</p>
<p>Titel : &#8220;Brutale Welt: Kindesmissbrauch und Folter in “Second Life”.<br />
Warum die Justiz machtlos ist.&#8221;</p>
<p>loosely translated to</p>
<p>Title : &#8220;Brutal World: Childmolesting and Torture in &#8216;Second Life&#8217;.<br />
And the reason why Justice is helpless&#8221;</p>
<p>That will bring the news to much more people who have no idea of what SL is (usually called Main-Stream, or Pop&#038;Mom). The whole thing is going to run out of control.</p>
<p>Linden Lab, I think this is too late, that you can do anything anymore. Wait a couple of weeks and then see Islands like &#8220;Mercedes&#8221; and &#8220;BMW&#8221; and other German Companies closing. That will be the beginning of the End.</p>
<p>And still nothing in the Blog of Linden Lab, nothing, since Thursday.<br />
Get up people, you can not stick your head into the sand and wait until it is over.</p>
<p>TJ Ay<br />
(sorry for my bad english, smile.)</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Loon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/oped_philip_lin.html/comment-page-1#comment-30598</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 09:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a link to a petition against the age verification if anyone is interested

http://yanai.blackmage.org/sky2/?page_id=2543
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a link to a petition against the age verification if anyone is interested</p>
<p><a href="http://yanai.blackmage.org/sky2/?page_id=2543" rel="nofollow">http://yanai.blackmage.org/sky2/?page_id=2543</a></p>
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		<title>By: Miraren Firefly</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/oped_philip_lin.html/comment-page-1#comment-30597</link>
		<dc:creator>Miraren Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 02:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inigo:

When it comes to actual child pornography, i, along with every ageplayer i know, condemn it thoroughly, outright, and with vicious, unwavering impunity, and it does chill me that child porn peddlers seem to have found a market within the ageplay community in SL. However, it remains that ageplay, even at its worst and least psychologically functional, is not and never will be child abuse. As Mr. Fairplay said, it is &quot;all smoke and no fire.&quot; If there is someone being abused, that someone is not a child. i think it is awful that LL, in their efforts at ass-covering, have chosen to sweep the ageplayers into the dustbin along with the child porn.

i would really hate to see Second Life go, i really would. i have been in Second Life for almost three years, and have gotten an absolute ton of value out of it. Like any long-time resident, i have seen the doomsday bell rung many times for SL, and have rung it once or twice myself. i love Second Life. The fact remains, though, that i love it more as a concept than as an implementation.

i&#039;d say that most residents would probably agree that they&#039;re only in Second Life because it is the most successful implementation of the metaverse concept so far. Like early successful implementations of any revolutionary computing concept, SL is heavily bogged down by various limitations that put a large gap between what it can do and what it may potentially be able to do. i have for some time privately predicted that SL will, before long, go the way of Netscape, Ultima Online, and so many others - it will be overtaken by vastly superior competitors, and will be written in the annals of history as the Hallowed Original, the first successful implementation of this amazing idea. Perhaps, like Netscape, its guts will be salvaged, improved upon, and reinvented into an open-source application (a la Firefox). Perhaps, like UO, it will live on in an eternal twilight, largely abandoned but not forgotten. What is certain to me is that the metaverse technology itself will be reinvented, improved and resold to coming generations of Internet denizens, and i don&#039;t doubt that there will probably be fierce competiton between virtual world providers somewhere along the road.

What i hope is that this sort of technology can eventually be turned into a free and open standard a la the World Wide Web, and can be implemented in a manner such that private companies can build upon the base standards set by a standards committee a la the W3C. In other words, a virtual world that has shed all vestiges of gaming and has become much more like the Metaverse envisioned in cyberpunk novels.

Hopefully, somewhere along the way, a John Stuart Mill-style maxim of &quot;total freedom except in cases in which those freedoms are causing direct and grievous harm&quot; can be engineered into the standard platform of the Metaverse.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inigo:</p>
<p>When it comes to actual child pornography, i, along with every ageplayer i know, condemn it thoroughly, outright, and with vicious, unwavering impunity, and it does chill me that child porn peddlers seem to have found a market within the ageplay community in SL. However, it remains that ageplay, even at its worst and least psychologically functional, is not and never will be child abuse. As Mr. Fairplay said, it is &#8220;all smoke and no fire.&#8221; If there is someone being abused, that someone is not a child. i think it is awful that LL, in their efforts at ass-covering, have chosen to sweep the ageplayers into the dustbin along with the child porn.</p>
<p>i would really hate to see Second Life go, i really would. i have been in Second Life for almost three years, and have gotten an absolute ton of value out of it. Like any long-time resident, i have seen the doomsday bell rung many times for SL, and have rung it once or twice myself. i love Second Life. The fact remains, though, that i love it more as a concept than as an implementation.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d say that most residents would probably agree that they&#8217;re only in Second Life because it is the most successful implementation of the metaverse concept so far. Like early successful implementations of any revolutionary computing concept, SL is heavily bogged down by various limitations that put a large gap between what it can do and what it may potentially be able to do. i have for some time privately predicted that SL will, before long, go the way of Netscape, Ultima Online, and so many others &#8211; it will be overtaken by vastly superior competitors, and will be written in the annals of history as the Hallowed Original, the first successful implementation of this amazing idea. Perhaps, like Netscape, its guts will be salvaged, improved upon, and reinvented into an open-source application (a la Firefox). Perhaps, like UO, it will live on in an eternal twilight, largely abandoned but not forgotten. What is certain to me is that the metaverse technology itself will be reinvented, improved and resold to coming generations of Internet denizens, and i don&#8217;t doubt that there will probably be fierce competiton between virtual world providers somewhere along the road.</p>
<p>What i hope is that this sort of technology can eventually be turned into a free and open standard a la the World Wide Web, and can be implemented in a manner such that private companies can build upon the base standards set by a standards committee a la the W3C. In other words, a virtual world that has shed all vestiges of gaming and has become much more like the Metaverse envisioned in cyberpunk novels.</p>
<p>Hopefully, somewhere along the way, a John Stuart Mill-style maxim of &#8220;total freedom except in cases in which those freedoms are causing direct and grievous harm&#8221; can be engineered into the standard platform of the Metaverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fairplay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fairplay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 23:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole debate is descending into the depths of stupidity.  The Supreme Court has already held age players are doing nothing against the law. all smoke and no fire. Lindens have way better things to do than to pander to people that have nothing better better to do than to push morals on everyone else. To the people griping, they wouldn&#039;t know anything like this was going on unless they are LOOKING for it.  If it offends people so much then don&#039;t subject yourself to it.  The Lindens need to take a sensible line on this. Unless it has to do with real world child images to stay out of it and do their jobs and fix grid problems and take care of griefers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole debate is descending into the depths of stupidity.  The Supreme Court has already held age players are doing nothing against the law. all smoke and no fire. Lindens have way better things to do than to pander to people that have nothing better better to do than to push morals on everyone else. To the people griping, they wouldn&#8217;t know anything like this was going on unless they are LOOKING for it.  If it offends people so much then don&#8217;t subject yourself to it.  The Lindens need to take a sensible line on this. Unless it has to do with real world child images to stay out of it and do their jobs and fix grid problems and take care of griefers.</p>
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		<title>By: Inigo Chamerberlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inigo Chamerberlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Miraren - the issue now is not specifically &#039;age play&#039; practitioners.

It&#039;s RL child porn merchants IN Second Life. They have been using the &#039;age play&#039; scene to attempt to sell their &#039;products&#039;, uploading and displaying samples to prospective customers in world.
If you&#039;d read the mainstream media reports before posting you&#039;d have known this.

This has placed Second Life and Linden Lab in an incredibly precarious position. Firstly there are the legal ramifications of Linden Lab hosting such content on their servers. Then there are the associations this activity has attached to Second Life as a product.

Frankly I could care less about the &#039;age play&#039; crew right now. They can be dealt with at leisure. What matters now is saving Second Life. The issue is THAT serious.
The only way I, and many others, can see of resolving that is by accurately and positively identifying every user of Second Life and limiting access to those who can be identified in future, should the need arise.
The point that that will also settle the under age issue is neither here nor there.
What is essential now is that any AV in Second Life must be securely and positively linked to a real life person who can be held responsible for their actions in Second Life.
It&#039;s not that difficult, PayPal manages it.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Miraren &#8211; the issue now is not specifically &#8216;age play&#8217; practitioners.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s RL child porn merchants IN Second Life. They have been using the &#8216;age play&#8217; scene to attempt to sell their &#8216;products&#8217;, uploading and displaying samples to prospective customers in world.<br />
If you&#8217;d read the mainstream media reports before posting you&#8217;d have known this.</p>
<p>This has placed Second Life and Linden Lab in an incredibly precarious position. Firstly there are the legal ramifications of Linden Lab hosting such content on their servers. Then there are the associations this activity has attached to Second Life as a product.</p>
<p>Frankly I could care less about the &#8216;age play&#8217; crew right now. They can be dealt with at leisure. What matters now is saving Second Life. The issue is THAT serious.<br />
The only way I, and many others, can see of resolving that is by accurately and positively identifying every user of Second Life and limiting access to those who can be identified in future, should the need arise.<br />
The point that that will also settle the under age issue is neither here nor there.<br />
What is essential now is that any AV in Second Life must be securely and positively linked to a real life person who can be held responsible for their actions in Second Life.<br />
It&#8217;s not that difficult, PayPal manages it.</p>
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		<title>By: Miraren Firefly</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/oped_philip_lin.html/comment-page-1#comment-30594</link>
		<dc:creator>Miraren Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s become, unfortunately, all too blindingly obvious to me that, no matter how sound the arguments made in favor of ageplay are, very few people will listen. An unfortunate logic loop happens with these sort of taboo topics: people gross out and stop listening. Their reply to any and all arguments is &quot;BUT IT&#039;S GROOOOSSSS!!! Destruction of innocence yucky wrong etc.&quot; They never stop to think: why do they consider it gross? Is their argument logically consistent?

Ageplay has got nothing - absolutely NOTHING - to do with pedophilia. Allow me to explain how this works.

Ageplay, as i refer to it here, involves psychological age regression. That is, the &quot;little&quot; in the interaction allows their inner child to surface and take over. The &quot;little&quot; seeks - and, hopefully, gets - nurturing, love and care from the &quot;Big&quot; or &quot;Daddy&quot; (or Mommy) in the relationship. The little may dress up in childish clothing, play with toys, and so on. It&#039;s important to note that this is completely different from &quot;spank me, daddy!&quot;-type roleplay. Ageplay is distinct from age roleplay in that one is letting one&#039;s inner child out, not playing a role.

Here&#039;s where it gets complicated: In real life, at least, ageplayers are usually in some sort of romantic relationship. Let&#039;s not forget, also, that what is happening inside the little&#039;s mind is still happening inside an adult brain, and therefore has an adult decision-making capability, adult libido and an adult sense of romance. It&#039;s not all that surprising that sexuality would get mixed up in it, considering that the ageplayers, when they&#039;re done with the scene, are likely going to sleep in the same bed; in adult-mode, they probably have sex.

This does *not* mean that most RL ageplayers have sex while ageplaying; according to my estimation, the majority do not. Many simply cannot get over the psychological block of &quot;OMG SIMULATING PEDOPHILIA!!!!&quot; Those who do are usually in an established, trusting long-term relationship, and are doing so with great psychological care. i can&#039;t speak for the whole ageplaying community, but according to my experience, this is how things typically happen. Ageplay is meant to be a happy, warm fuzzy, healing and nurturing experience at its core - not a simulation of pedophilia at all.

Reinforcing this is the fact that even the mention of pedophilia - in fantasy *or* in reality - sends shivers up the most disciplined ageplayer&#039;s spine. Many will fume at the mention of it; many are parents themselves. In online communities, it is usually fairly easy to tell if a newcomer is looking to play out pedophilic fantasies, and those people are typically spurned viciously by the community.

Now, that being said, what happens IRL and what happens in SL regarding ageplay are different beasts entirely. i have seen many &quot;ageplay&quot; interactions in SL that struck me as entirely inappropriate, either on the level of psychological danger or on the level of bordering on immorality. i have never ageplayed in SL for this reason. In my mind, this is something that should be done with the utmost love, care and caution, not recklessly with someone you meet and talk to for a couple minutes on the Internet.

Also, most of these people seem to be performing age roleplay, not actual ageplay. This is a different - and way creepier - beast, and i do resent that they are calling it &quot;ageplay.&quot; It is directly and primarily sexual in nature, and bears very little resemblance to the ageplay i know.

On the whole, i do not like or approve of most of the things being done in SL under the guise of &quot;ageplay.&quot; However, none of it is illegal, and none of it deserves to be banned. The mob mentality that has formed around this subject is absolutely frightening and disgusting, and is to be feared at least as much as the object that the mob mentality has formed against.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s become, unfortunately, all too blindingly obvious to me that, no matter how sound the arguments made in favor of ageplay are, very few people will listen. An unfortunate logic loop happens with these sort of taboo topics: people gross out and stop listening. Their reply to any and all arguments is &#8220;BUT IT&#8217;S GROOOOSSSS!!! Destruction of innocence yucky wrong etc.&#8221; They never stop to think: why do they consider it gross? Is their argument logically consistent?</p>
<p>Ageplay has got nothing &#8211; absolutely NOTHING &#8211; to do with pedophilia. Allow me to explain how this works.</p>
<p>Ageplay, as i refer to it here, involves psychological age regression. That is, the &#8220;little&#8221; in the interaction allows their inner child to surface and take over. The &#8220;little&#8221; seeks &#8211; and, hopefully, gets &#8211; nurturing, love and care from the &#8220;Big&#8221; or &#8220;Daddy&#8221; (or Mommy) in the relationship. The little may dress up in childish clothing, play with toys, and so on. It&#8217;s important to note that this is completely different from &#8220;spank me, daddy!&#8221;-type roleplay. Ageplay is distinct from age roleplay in that one is letting one&#8217;s inner child out, not playing a role.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where it gets complicated: In real life, at least, ageplayers are usually in some sort of romantic relationship. Let&#8217;s not forget, also, that what is happening inside the little&#8217;s mind is still happening inside an adult brain, and therefore has an adult decision-making capability, adult libido and an adult sense of romance. It&#8217;s not all that surprising that sexuality would get mixed up in it, considering that the ageplayers, when they&#8217;re done with the scene, are likely going to sleep in the same bed; in adult-mode, they probably have sex.</p>
<p>This does *not* mean that most RL ageplayers have sex while ageplaying; according to my estimation, the majority do not. Many simply cannot get over the psychological block of &#8220;OMG SIMULATING PEDOPHILIA!!!!&#8221; Those who do are usually in an established, trusting long-term relationship, and are doing so with great psychological care. i can&#8217;t speak for the whole ageplaying community, but according to my experience, this is how things typically happen. Ageplay is meant to be a happy, warm fuzzy, healing and nurturing experience at its core &#8211; not a simulation of pedophilia at all.</p>
<p>Reinforcing this is the fact that even the mention of pedophilia &#8211; in fantasy *or* in reality &#8211; sends shivers up the most disciplined ageplayer&#8217;s spine. Many will fume at the mention of it; many are parents themselves. In online communities, it is usually fairly easy to tell if a newcomer is looking to play out pedophilic fantasies, and those people are typically spurned viciously by the community.</p>
<p>Now, that being said, what happens IRL and what happens in SL regarding ageplay are different beasts entirely. i have seen many &#8220;ageplay&#8221; interactions in SL that struck me as entirely inappropriate, either on the level of psychological danger or on the level of bordering on immorality. i have never ageplayed in SL for this reason. In my mind, this is something that should be done with the utmost love, care and caution, not recklessly with someone you meet and talk to for a couple minutes on the Internet.</p>
<p>Also, most of these people seem to be performing age roleplay, not actual ageplay. This is a different &#8211; and way creepier &#8211; beast, and i do resent that they are calling it &#8220;ageplay.&#8221; It is directly and primarily sexual in nature, and bears very little resemblance to the ageplay i know.</p>
<p>On the whole, i do not like or approve of most of the things being done in SL under the guise of &#8220;ageplay.&#8221; However, none of it is illegal, and none of it deserves to be banned. The mob mentality that has formed around this subject is absolutely frightening and disgusting, and is to be feared at least as much as the object that the mob mentality has formed against.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I own the information produced by me and thus it is very weird that somebody suggested that my information, like an entry on voter list, can be sold by a third party. Yes, it can be sold, but only by me. Have I understood right that American anarchists (libertarians) are mentally commies seizing private property? :-)

Once you cede it to a company, depending on their TOS, you no longer own it. But you&#039;re making a bid deal out of nothing. Delete the spam, throw out the junk mail, put your answering machine on, welcome to modern life.

Anarchists are the communists, always thinking they can obtain everything for free, that nobody&#039;s labour ever has to be paid for through profits.

&gt;The EU is the most important economic area in the world, as you have noticed in SL, and Bushland&#039;s spies are mostly fishing information from Europe for commercial spying.

How poorly the Internet-educated get on in life. Europe, especially Old Europe, is aging and dying economically. Asia is the powerhouse, and Eurasia, and Latin America, and Latinos as a population in the United States. Not Europe. Germany may be the wealthiest country in the world but it cannot project its power in the way other powers can. Europe fills up its countries with immigrants because it&#039;s own aging and unionized and socialist population can&#039;t or won&#039;t do the work required for modern, open economies -- and that&#039;s a good thing, except for the religious and culture clash inevitably spawned by the hastiness of the change.

Bushland has no need to spy on Europe, which is dying, changing, and has no competitive economies, if in fact there even is a Bushland that engages in commercial spying; what&#039;s more the real issue is that Bushland exploits new EU members from the old captive nations group to place their black detention sites in the war on terror. If you&#039;re going to be paranoid about Bushland, at least pick real issues, and not fake issues.

&gt;It is not uncommon to meet CIA agents in international business in Europe. Most of the trade restrictions originate from the USA or from 3rd world.

This is one of those meaningless Internet statements that comes from a poorly educated anonymous avatar or a trained operative placing propaganda on sites.

&gt;Linden Lab has taken steps to confront the privacy and tax laws of its most important market area. I assume you know nothing yet about the tax problems. LL does say that they do not conform to the EU privacy laws, but legally that kind of statement is useless.

There are no precedent cases yet to establish the law, so anything you&#039;re saying is mere speculation, and uneducated speculation at that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>I own the information produced by me and thus it is very weird that somebody suggested that my information, like an entry on voter list, can be sold by a third party. Yes, it can be sold, but only by me. Have I understood right that American anarchists (libertarians) are mentally commies seizing private property? <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Once you cede it to a company, depending on their TOS, you no longer own it. But you&#8217;re making a bid deal out of nothing. Delete the spam, throw out the junk mail, put your answering machine on, welcome to modern life.</p>
<p>Anarchists are the communists, always thinking they can obtain everything for free, that nobody&#8217;s labour ever has to be paid for through profits.</p>
<p>>The EU is the most important economic area in the world, as you have noticed in SL, and Bushland&#8217;s spies are mostly fishing information from Europe for commercial spying.</p>
<p>How poorly the Internet-educated get on in life. Europe, especially Old Europe, is aging and dying economically. Asia is the powerhouse, and Eurasia, and Latin America, and Latinos as a population in the United States. Not Europe. Germany may be the wealthiest country in the world but it cannot project its power in the way other powers can. Europe fills up its countries with immigrants because it&#8217;s own aging and unionized and socialist population can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t do the work required for modern, open economies &#8212; and that&#8217;s a good thing, except for the religious and culture clash inevitably spawned by the hastiness of the change.</p>
<p>Bushland has no need to spy on Europe, which is dying, changing, and has no competitive economies, if in fact there even is a Bushland that engages in commercial spying; what&#8217;s more the real issue is that Bushland exploits new EU members from the old captive nations group to place their black detention sites in the war on terror. If you&#8217;re going to be paranoid about Bushland, at least pick real issues, and not fake issues.</p>
<p>>It is not uncommon to meet CIA agents in international business in Europe. Most of the trade restrictions originate from the USA or from 3rd world.</p>
<p>This is one of those meaningless Internet statements that comes from a poorly educated anonymous avatar or a trained operative placing propaganda on sites.</p>
<p>>Linden Lab has taken steps to confront the privacy and tax laws of its most important market area. I assume you know nothing yet about the tax problems. LL does say that they do not conform to the EU privacy laws, but legally that kind of statement is useless.</p>
<p>There are no precedent cases yet to establish the law, so anything you&#8217;re saying is mere speculation, and uneducated speculation at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius Goodliffe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I believe that returning to the previous system, where you had to submit a valid credit card and RL contact data to even sign up for an trial, which served Second Life well for several years is the only solution at present.&quot;

I believe it&#039;s time to wake up and smell the 21st century.  CC &quot;verification&quot; is no better than no verification at all, because that&#039;s precisely what it is.  These little plastic cards are getting to the point of almost replacing cash entirely.  Anyone can get one these days, including minors.  It&#039;s getting easier and easier to get one with less and less information required to do so.  This wasn&#039;t even close to being a valid verification system a year ago, and it&#039;s even further away now, and getting further every day.  Once they stopped being &quot;credit cards&quot; (the majority of them these days are debit cards and the like), and became as near ubiquitous as they are now, they stopped being any more useful for verification as asking someone to send you a dollar bill.  The fact that they could put a dollar bill in an envelope and send it to you don&#039;t prove who they are or how old they are, only only proves that they had a dollar.  Nowadays, they can give you a 16 digit number, and it proves just as much, i.e., almost nothing.

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<p>I believe it&#8217;s time to wake up and smell the 21st century.  CC &#8220;verification&#8221; is no better than no verification at all, because that&#8217;s precisely what it is.  These little plastic cards are getting to the point of almost replacing cash entirely.  Anyone can get one these days, including minors.  It&#8217;s getting easier and easier to get one with less and less information required to do so.  This wasn&#8217;t even close to being a valid verification system a year ago, and it&#8217;s even further away now, and getting further every day.  Once they stopped being &#8220;credit cards&#8221; (the majority of them these days are debit cards and the like), and became as near ubiquitous as they are now, they stopped being any more useful for verification as asking someone to send you a dollar bill.  The fact that they could put a dollar bill in an envelope and send it to you don&#8217;t prove who they are or how old they are, only only proves that they had a dollar.  Nowadays, they can give you a 16 digit number, and it proves just as much, i.e., almost nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: idiftl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Join the Patriotic Nigras today, wrecking Second Life since 2006!

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