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		<title>By: Big Horkenheiser</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30908</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Horkenheiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn, I am not even sure if the toe headed, starry eyed, wonder boy Philip actually realizes how fucked up SL is right now.

In fact I am starting to wonder if they aren&#039;t still so intoxicated by their &quot;success&quot; (after opening registration to every griefer and his uncle), that they (the upper Lindens) are just really are that out of touch.

It&#039;s just one bad decision after another, and it will catch up to them eventually, especially when big biz comes to the realization that Philly Dawg is running this operation like a hippie love-in.

Then they will be left with Ghost Grid, bots, and their pets. Personally, after nearly 5 years in SL, loving it and now hating it, I hope it fails. They don&#039;t deserve success any more, because they&#039;ve shown that they are totally unwilling to listen to the very people who gave them that success by steadfastly supporting them.

Like the poster above (Inigo I think?) I&#039;m pissed at Rosedale too, and not for any one blunder. It&#039;s the overall impression that this platform/game/widget isn&#039;t for &quot;us&quot; anymore and that the Lindens now view it as a cash cow because beig media and big biz have noticed.

Short version - they don&#039;t think they need our input anymore, because instead of being humble about their success and giving credit where credit is due for that, they just keep steamrolling us with  unwanted CRAP, while sticking their fingers in their ears.

I get SO sick of formulaic responses from Phil, Robin, Cory, etc., that I could just puke. They treat us like ignorant children for chrissakes. This has me seriously considering walking away and never looking back.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn, I am not even sure if the toe headed, starry eyed, wonder boy Philip actually realizes how fucked up SL is right now.</p>
<p>In fact I am starting to wonder if they aren&#8217;t still so intoxicated by their &#8220;success&#8221; (after opening registration to every griefer and his uncle), that they (the upper Lindens) are just really are that out of touch.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one bad decision after another, and it will catch up to them eventually, especially when big biz comes to the realization that Philly Dawg is running this operation like a hippie love-in.</p>
<p>Then they will be left with Ghost Grid, bots, and their pets. Personally, after nearly 5 years in SL, loving it and now hating it, I hope it fails. They don&#8217;t deserve success any more, because they&#8217;ve shown that they are totally unwilling to listen to the very people who gave them that success by steadfastly supporting them.</p>
<p>Like the poster above (Inigo I think?) I&#8217;m pissed at Rosedale too, and not for any one blunder. It&#8217;s the overall impression that this platform/game/widget isn&#8217;t for &#8220;us&#8221; anymore and that the Lindens now view it as a cash cow because beig media and big biz have noticed.</p>
<p>Short version &#8211; they don&#8217;t think they need our input anymore, because instead of being humble about their success and giving credit where credit is due for that, they just keep steamrolling us with  unwanted CRAP, while sticking their fingers in their ears.</p>
<p>I get SO sick of formulaic responses from Phil, Robin, Cory, etc., that I could just puke. They treat us like ignorant children for chrissakes. This has me seriously considering walking away and never looking back.</p>
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		<title>By: The 9th Circuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 9th Circuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 10:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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Voice implementation will doom SL.  It will predominantly establish SL as a long distance telephone provider and give businesses another option in which you can employ business conferencing. Which would be fine if there weren&#039;t other mediums by which these can be currently employed to much better efficiency than in SL.

Yes, SL can be much more than a game, but a game is intricately ingrained within its concept.  In other words, you have to be in the mood to &quot;play&quot; in order to indulge in the service.

If you are serious about communicating with a prospective client(s), or you have important presentations and meetings to attend with your company/organization, the last thing youre going to tell them is to download SL and log into your monkey avatar.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voice implementation will doom SL.  It will predominantly establish SL as a long distance telephone provider and give businesses another option in which you can employ business conferencing. Which would be fine if there weren&#8217;t other mediums by which these can be currently employed to much better efficiency than in SL.</p>
<p>Yes, SL can be much more than a game, but a game is intricately ingrained within its concept.  In other words, you have to be in the mood to &#8220;play&#8221; in order to indulge in the service.</p>
<p>If you are serious about communicating with a prospective client(s), or you have important presentations and meetings to attend with your company/organization, the last thing youre going to tell them is to download SL and log into your monkey avatar.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart in SL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart in SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 07:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;About the last town hall meeting&lt;/strong&gt;


The Second Life Herald has a very interesting, but also opiniated, piece about the last town hall meetingearlier this week with Cory Linden. To put it simple: the writer was not impressed at all and thinks that the Lindens are working on the wrong prior
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>About the last town hall meeting</strong></p>
<p>The Second Life Herald has a very interesting, but also opiniated, piece about the last town hall meetingearlier this week with Cory Linden. To put it simple: the writer was not impressed at all and thinks that the Lindens are working on the wrong prior</p>
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		<title>By: Montana Corleone</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30906</link>
		<dc:creator>Montana Corleone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ marilyn murphy: too right!

Well that&#039;s it really, end of Second Life, and with it the 3D internet. They didn&#039;t address the core issues in the Open Letter, in fact they waited a whole day before announcing Voice AND sculpties are in the next release, a week after they get this bug fix hurriedly out the door, 16 whole days before a double whammy of new bugs hits us &quot;because they work in Beta but fail under load on the main grid&quot;...

So in addition, you&#039;re gonna have to give out your passport or other critical personal data leaving you open to identity theft to get validated? It&#039;s already virtually impossible for a European like me to get validated without a credit card (not so ubiquitous in Europe, we don&#039;t live on credit), but this 3rd Pary is bound to be US, only taking US cards, so now, instead of a few places, I&#039;ll be banned out of a lot of mainland, and virtually every private estate. One gaming machine or SexGen bed will make the entire sim out of bounds.

I work in an adult club (most are, they have escort panels and gaming machines), so I&#039;ll lose my job which supports my establishing businesses. A horde of people will leave, making business more difficult than it already is. I&#039;ll lose my rented house, and probably will have to find a cheap 32m to put a couple of servers on and just sell through slx and slb. That will hurt my landlords, and in turn other businesses. In fact there won&#039;t be a lot of point coming into SL, and I might as well quit after 7 months&#039; hard work.

SL will implode with this measure....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ marilyn murphy: too right!</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s it really, end of Second Life, and with it the 3D internet. They didn&#8217;t address the core issues in the Open Letter, in fact they waited a whole day before announcing Voice AND sculpties are in the next release, a week after they get this bug fix hurriedly out the door, 16 whole days before a double whammy of new bugs hits us &#8220;because they work in Beta but fail under load on the main grid&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>So in addition, you&#8217;re gonna have to give out your passport or other critical personal data leaving you open to identity theft to get validated? It&#8217;s already virtually impossible for a European like me to get validated without a credit card (not so ubiquitous in Europe, we don&#8217;t live on credit), but this 3rd Pary is bound to be US, only taking US cards, so now, instead of a few places, I&#8217;ll be banned out of a lot of mainland, and virtually every private estate. One gaming machine or SexGen bed will make the entire sim out of bounds.</p>
<p>I work in an adult club (most are, they have escort panels and gaming machines), so I&#8217;ll lose my job which supports my establishing businesses. A horde of people will leave, making business more difficult than it already is. I&#8217;ll lose my rented house, and probably will have to find a cheap 32m to put a couple of servers on and just sell through slx and slb. That will hurt my landlords, and in turn other businesses. In fact there won&#8217;t be a lot of point coming into SL, and I might as well quit after 7 months&#8217; hard work.</p>
<p>SL will implode with this measure&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: marilyn murphy</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30905</link>
		<dc:creator>marilyn murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually.  this whole letter/town meeting thing has me in a sl depression.  it has finally stamped indelibly the fact that sl is messed up, and it&#039;s going to stay that way.  i don&#039;t think its due to mis management any more, i kept thinking they just had to grasp the problem.  now i know it&#039;s truly incompetence run amok.  they know its got problems, and they can&#039;t fix it cuz they don&#039;t know how to fix it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually.  this whole letter/town meeting thing has me in a sl depression.  it has finally stamped indelibly the fact that sl is messed up, and it&#8217;s going to stay that way.  i don&#8217;t think its due to mis management any more, i kept thinking they just had to grasp the problem.  now i know it&#8217;s truly incompetence run amok.  they know its got problems, and they can&#8217;t fix it cuz they don&#8217;t know how to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30904</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 12:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*69* percent, yes, that lets us know their attitude toward the world...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*69* percent, yes, that lets us know their attitude toward the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30903</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 11:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, &#039;architectural&#039; is a tekkie buzzword, but it actually refers to coming up with a whole new system to do something in a different way, instead of fixing or adjusting the old system.  The connotation is that it will work much better once you change over to the new system.

Personally, I think it means they aren&#039;t fixing the current server code because those 69% are working on redesigning the server code so that other companies can run SL servers, not just LL.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, &#8216;architectural&#8217; is a tekkie buzzword, but it actually refers to coming up with a whole new system to do something in a different way, instead of fixing or adjusting the old system.  The connotation is that it will work much better once you change over to the new system.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it means they aren&#8217;t fixing the current server code because those 69% are working on redesigning the server code so that other companies can run SL servers, not just LL.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 10:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WooHoo voice and sculpties soon to a client near you, plus extra code to ensure those big bad kids can&#039;t get into an entire ESTATE if one 16M block is marked mature.

Nice one lindens, thanks for listening.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WooHoo voice and sculpties soon to a client near you, plus extra code to ensure those big bad kids can&#8217;t get into an entire ESTATE if one 16M block is marked mature.</p>
<p>Nice one lindens, thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Too yellow to use my real name</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30901</link>
		<dc:creator>Too yellow to use my real name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 08:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I managed to get:
&#039;What we are asking for is that these problems are addressed immediately, ahead of new features, and that we are able to see tangible improvements. Are you going to do this - yes or no?&#039; submitted.

The Reply - &#039;69&#039;...

That&#039;s the CTO&#039;s answer to the core point of the Open Letter. Not &#039;yes&#039;. Not &#039;no&#039;. Not even &#039;maybe&#039;.

Just the new standard &#039;69&#039; &#039;response.

I mean, why even bother PRETENDING to answer? Why not simply ignore the question?
I actually find it somewhat insulting. A large number of customers are clearly unhappy with the current situation and are sufficiently so to get together and make a public demonstration of their unhappiness and make a request.

And LL&#039;s response? &#039;69&#039; wrapped in some irrelevant nonsense.

Frankly I&#039;d have preferred &#039;If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t let the door hit your ass on the way out&#039;. That would at least have been honest.

Oh! Wait - that&#039;s what Cory DID say, isn&#039;t it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I managed to get:<br />
&#8216;What we are asking for is that these problems are addressed immediately, ahead of new features, and that we are able to see tangible improvements. Are you going to do this &#8211; yes or no?&#8217; submitted.</p>
<p>The Reply &#8211; &#8217;69&#8242;&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the CTO&#8217;s answer to the core point of the Open Letter. Not &#8216;yes&#8217;. Not &#8216;no&#8217;. Not even &#8216;maybe&#8217;.</p>
<p>Just the new standard &#8217;69&#8242; &#8216;response.</p>
<p>I mean, why even bother PRETENDING to answer? Why not simply ignore the question?<br />
I actually find it somewhat insulting. A large number of customers are clearly unhappy with the current situation and are sufficiently so to get together and make a public demonstration of their unhappiness and make a request.</p>
<p>And LL&#8217;s response? &#8217;69&#8242; wrapped in some irrelevant nonsense.</p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;d have preferred &#8216;If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t let the door hit your ass on the way out&#8217;. That would at least have been honest.</p>
<p>Oh! Wait &#8211; that&#8217;s what Cory DID say, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Alyx Stoklitsky</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/05/town_hall_cliff.html/comment-page-1#comment-30900</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyx Stoklitsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading half way through one of the comments here, I noticed that SL was being compared to old Russian politics. Instantly, I thought &quot;This post is by Prokofy Neva, isn&#039;t it?&quot;

I scrolled down, and what do you know? I was right.

Where does your obsession come from, Prok?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading half way through one of the comments here, I noticed that SL was being compared to old Russian politics. Instantly, I thought &#8220;This post is by Prokofy Neva, isn&#8217;t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>I scrolled down, and what do you know? I was right.</p>
<p>Where does your obsession come from, Prok?</p>
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