Prokofy dearie?

“In the Metaverse, everybody knows you’re a dog.”

Hmmm …. what is wrong with this statement?

Shall we list them and see how long it may be?

1. This ‘Metaverse’ you mention does not exist – second Life and all similar programs are just that, programs.

2. Your Avatar is not the real you – therefore everybody with a single shred of sanity knows that you are not a dog: Dogs cannot use a computer.

3. The statement alone shows a rather alarming mixture of fantasy and reality of the sort which can lead one to actually believe that the fantasy world on their screen – be it text or image – is in fact the real world.

Rest of us: ZOMG, AGEPLAY! Take her away!!

This is truth.

I told you already, you came to the sim after me, YOU BOUGHT the waterfront. I did not have waterfront “EINSTEIN”. You blocked my view with a big house. Lee or Leo? (not Linden and his last name escapes me at the moment, it’s been almost a year since I last spoke to him) is the person who told me to not rent from you after I expressed a little concern over seeing how you behave when interacting with others. It isn’t “trumped up” at all. God, I have to hold your hand and step you through this just like I had to when you claimed I have some sort of morality slider. As far as you building there blocking the view, shrug, it didn’t bother me to be honest. You don’t need help to make yourself look bad, and that wasn’t my intent at all, I was just trying to make a point that it’s nearly impossible to build to please everyone. I just moved along rather than make a stink. Shrug.

Walking up to people at a public gathering and making them uncomfortable and indeed possibly a bit freaked out by employing school yard gestures is asinine and and so fucking childish I can’t even wrap my brain around it.

You are a child. Have fun saving the world, clown.

Honk Honk!

Um, guess what, Einstein. I moved into the neighbourhood first by buying an entire sim? My houses and purchasers were already in place? And then Pahoa Jade moved into an entire half sim next door AFTERWARDS, and out of the entire mainland island and miles of water she possessed, she picked an odd square right smack in front of the viewline of my buyer’s waterfront to place a kitschy statue. Not King Kong, which was on the other side of her island, and not even visible to my sim — and not at issue, except as an indication of the character of this group of people, that they could inflict a thing like that on everyone for miles around.

She was contacted and asked to *sell the little square* and she took a fit over *the mere request to sell a small square*. That’s what it’s all about.

>Your building blocked my view. How? Because it was between the water and my house. AMAZING!

Um, if you are leasing waterfront, how can MY build be in your view? hello? WTF is this about? Name the sim, and the build. There wouldn’t be a build between your house and the water. I can think of some sims where there are houses up on a hill, and a boardwalk or stores underneath them but that doesn’t block their view of the water.

>Funny thing is, it was not leased and I considered renting it – but one of your “friends” (he identified himself thus) who is also in the rental business talked me out of it. He said you were just way to abrasive, so I moved to a private island rental. I didn’t go to IMs or some forums and start screaming at people.

Um, that would be retarded to do about a *rental* when you can just click refund and move to another of the gadzillion rentals out there. This sounds completely trumped up.

>And don’t try to play off what he said as acting in his own self interest, he never even tried to get me to rent from him.

I could care less. People in SL are out for themselves. It’s not surprising. It’s how they survive. What’s peculiar is why you would rent a house that you felt had a “blocked view” in the first place.

>And yeah, it’s all too obvious you don’t care about looking like an ass. Otherwise you wouldn’t be using playground devices like flashing the L and crosses at people.

I think flashing an L at someone who is incapable of grasping the basics of the stories here and is just venting his spleen is quite in order.

>Grow the fuck up and maybe people will heed some of what you say. After 5 decades on this planet, you’d think you would have outgrown playground bully tactics. That sort of thing makes only the person who does such childish things the LAMER LOSER.

The only person engaging in playground bully tactics is you, dredging up some fake cockamamie story that is designed to make my business look bad, to portray people who you imagine are “my friends” appear to be in fact enemies, and many other nasty undermining tactics.

Apparently you are unhappy in your own SL, and need to vent and project in this fashion.

>How any grown adult could go to a public event and flash the finger cross and the L at people is just mind boggling and so far beyond pathetic that it leaves me baffled.

It’s fitting. The alternative would be to get into some kind of long polemics with them, which they’d only tendentiously misrepresent. A cross or an L is a very clear and unambigious sign : )

Your building blocked my view. How? Because it was between the water and my house. AMAZING!

Funny thing is, it was not leased and I considered renting it – but one of your “friends” (he identified himself thus) who is also in the rental business talked me out of it. He said you were just way to abrasive, so I moved to a private island rental. I didn’t go to IMs or some forums and start screaming at people. And don’t try to play off what he said as acting in his own self interest, he never even tried to get me to rent from him.

And yeah, it’s all too obvious you don’t care about looking like an ass. Otherwise you wouldn’t be using playground devices like flashing the L and crosses at people.

Grow the fuck up and maybe people will heed some of what you say. After 5 decades on this planet, you’d think you would have outgrown playground bully tactics. That sort of thing makes only the person who does such childish things the LAMER LOSER. How any grown adult could go to a public event and flash the finger cross and the L at people is just mind boggling and so far beyond pathetic that it leaves me baffled.

I do believe in being considerate of one’s neighbour. It’s hard work. Often that neighbour asking you to be considerate is fussy and intrusive and out of line. It’s a fine line. But it’s worth trying to harmonize. And that can be done by a few basic items in a code of decency.

Morality is a good thing. It’s not a bad thing. People might disagree on where lines should be drawn. But there’s no question that you should *try* to draw them. That means people will have to advocate different platforms strenuously and make their case. And that’s what I do.

All you can do is sputter and fume and whine that somebody is restraining your fuck-you hedonism. That’s not very attractive, and not very supportable.

I haven’t done any tekkie-wiki literalism here — but you have. I think any intelligent person can see how hilarious your position is. On the one hand, you can affirm “standard morals” like “thou shalt not kill” but just like people who argue whether abortion is murder or not, you immediately began arguing against the concept of universal values and wish to seek some sliding scale of your own.

I have no idea of which rental you lived in that could have possibly blocked the view of the water even if you were “there first”. Sounds bogus to me. Since people can pretty much chose their own house on any parcel, it’s hard to picture how “my rental” and not “your house” blocked the view.

I can’t picture a house that would block water, but — whatever. It’s a rule and one that I enforce. And I don’t believe that SL tastes are so wildly subjective and so wildly different that we can’t have a few basic good neighbour rules. The minute people can make covenants and rules, they make the same ones. No spinning signs. No building SMACK on the property line — they’re pretty basic, and MOST PEOPLE abide by them and understand their value.

King Kong is a novelty item that should not be left out in the water permanently. It offsets the value of all the land around it. There’d be no reason, again, to put this statue out on the EDGE of CONSIDERABLE land holdings of some half a sim, when it could have gone IN THE MIDDLE of the holdings and not bother everyone on the periphery. But like that kitsch statue in the water, the owners themselves didn’t want to have to look at the stuff all day, they wanted their special little waterfront view and suburban house at the center of their property with no blocked view *just like anybody else* and just put the junk out on the periphery to look at some times, making everyone else look at it all the time. Nice work!

No, this isn’t “legislating taste” to ask that people be considerate, in a world where most people are trying to make the beautiful versimilitude of real life waterfront scenes, and not crap it up for them. Buy and island and put out a zoo if you must, Go on some cheap crappy flat land and put out spinning junk. Don’t invade everybody’s high-priced waterfront with crap that you yourself can’t bear to look at 24/7. Consideration is an act of empathy and care. It’s not about legislating morality. It’s about building into a moral code basic common sense and consideration.

I disagree that simple good-neighbour policies like “don’t use orbs that teleport people home” or “no spinning signs” are matters of such wildly subjective taste, and such impossible-to-agree-on issues that they can’t be affirmed, and begin to spread as norms.

One thing I care least about is looking like an ass, as I can’t possibly look like more of an ass than somebody typing hysterically in all-caps “when we speak of self determined morals OUSTIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ACCEPTED STANDARD SET OF MORALS,” completely heedless of his own internal contradictions!

I don’t see anything “personal” and “uber-subjective” in a statement like “spinning signs are ugly and stupid, they annoy neighbours and don’t bring sales”. Millions of SL subscribers likely agree with me.

I see the arguments in the comments though going oddly back and forth over your statements relating to crime in SL and degeneracy. The land crimes and the money crimes are a problem in SL. The ad farms, the residents blocking your views, are things that are RW illegal with limited opportunity for correction in SL. Fraud is also something that you can’t correct in SL. You can possibly make sure it doesn’t happen again, but there’s no way to rectify that. Added to this list is the fact that the Lindens would never involve themselves in an in-world legal system and what results you could get from a court system in RL you can’t do in SL.

Obscenity is a legal definition that is against the law in RL. However, pornography not featuring children, and subject to obscenity restrictions, is not illegal. Instead of arguing “sexual morality”, and this goes to *everyone* who is posting back and forth in the comment area, how about just accepting that everyone has different sexual beliefs, and so long as you don’t impose your beliefs on others or try to stop someone else from following there own beliefs, then everything will be peaceful, outside of the contention of the comments.

You’re not missing out on much anyway, you’re looking at 85% concentrated AIDS in that water.

“I’ll be preparing my “L” sign to be able to flash LOSER to you, lametard.”

Oh zing!

You ARE a virtual busybody. You ARE the virtual Falwell. We saw how impotent he really was in the end (RIAA), so I can’t think of a more analogous character.

I was AGREEING with you, on the law, and murder. That is what I meant by “standard”. You ARE thick, because you are so blinded by self righteousness and rage that you cannot even detect something as un-nuanced as my agreement that there are mores we all must live by, or face the consequences. Instead, you get caught up in the pedantry of semantics. Tekkie wikki literalist!

See, we have enforced morals and then a secondary set that are left up to the individual (within the realm of lawfulness). You would love arbitrarily to encroach on that sort of individual freedom. That is my point, and that has got nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with a personal agenda driven by self righteous control issues.

I once lived next to one of your rentals – it blocked my view of the water AND I was there first. Shrug. Who was the hedonist? Or is hedonism in the name of profit ok? Two legs bad four legs good? If its a king kong or a big building, is there a difference? I don’t think so, I still couldn’t see the sunset across the water. The point is, you cannot legislate taste, and people with poor taste are not criminals, they are simply people with a poor sense of aestheticism, which is wholly subjective AND THAT is what I meant by morality being subjective, when we speak of self determined morals OUSTIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ACCEPTED STANDARD SET OF MORALS, such as murder, rape, theft and so on.. Do you understand now?

You go right ahead and flash the loser hand gesture at me, if you see me. You will have achieved nothing more than to have made yourself look like MORE of an ass, and you will edge yourself closer to the complete irrelevancy of The Village Idiot.

Serious now, good bye and good luck in your crusade to force SL and its makers and inhabitants to adopt your personal value system. And yeah, tell me again how it’s not YOUR value ssytems you’re fighting for. I’ll laugh again (without the disingenous and juvenile “ROFL” you’re so fond of).