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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27312</link>
		<dc:creator>shockwave yareach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When this first started, they asked for the residents who were developers to sign up.  I did so.  Now the developer group is created and running, and I&#039;m not a member?  Did I do something wrong?  I have received no notice.

I&#039;m one of the coders and builders for three islands and two clubs.  Losing the &quot;cred&quot; bit won&#039;t bother me in the least.  It does, however, make me think this is nothing but a clique instead of a professional skill-development organization.  You asked for volunteers and I volunteered.  If your principle requirements for membership were running a business selling stuff to the public and knowing the right people, I wish you&#039;d said so at the outset.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When this first started, they asked for the residents who were developers to sign up.  I did so.  Now the developer group is created and running, and I&#8217;m not a member?  Did I do something wrong?  I have received no notice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the coders and builders for three islands and two clubs.  Losing the &#8220;cred&#8221; bit won&#8217;t bother me in the least.  It does, however, make me think this is nothing but a clique instead of a professional skill-development organization.  You asked for volunteers and I volunteered.  If your principle requirements for membership were running a business selling stuff to the public and knowing the right people, I wish you&#8217;d said so at the outset.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholaz Beresford</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27311</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholaz Beresford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
Btw, admittedly being a tekkie, I find many of the names, especially those who are wordplay pretty cool.  Now, I did pick a normal one, but being inworld for months now and coming across a wide variety of those names, I&#039;ve smiled many times when it dawned on me that there&#039;s an extra layer of meaning in those.  Like a builder choosing Stonecutter, or Payne being popular among the BDSM folks.  Reminds me of some of those names Terry Pratchett is using for his book characters, like that dwarf called Stronginthearm :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, admittedly being a tekkie, I find many of the names, especially those who are wordplay pretty cool.  Now, I did pick a normal one, but being inworld for months now and coming across a wide variety of those names, I&#8217;ve smiled many times when it dawned on me that there&#8217;s an extra layer of meaning in those.  Like a builder choosing Stonecutter, or Payne being popular among the BDSM folks.  Reminds me of some of those names Terry Pratchett is using for his book characters, like that dwarf called Stronginthearm <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cocoanut Koala</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27310</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocoanut Koala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  I haven&#039;t been wanting the corporations to pay for an extra level of support AT ALL, Thraxis.

NOT ONE BIT.

I&#039;ve been wanting them to pay more for LAND, as sponsors.

(The idea of having corporations pay the same for land as us is similar to the idea of a married couple deciding that each will pay 50% of everything, when one of them makes $30k a year and the other makes $500k.)

Now you are talking about paying for level of support?  This would translate into:  REAL support for corporations who could afford it, but not for regular people, who could not.

Unlike charging corporations more for land, which is the same commodity, this would amount simply to pricing real support out of reach for regular people.

2.  I don&#039;t &quot;bitch and moan&quot; about the Developers Directory, because it was MY bloody idea in the first place that the Lindens create one!

Suggested to them by me!  So obviously, I&#039;m happy they have this directory.

As for these name issues, including &quot;how to improve the process&quot; and &quot;make it easier to get to the next step - NO, the developers aren&#039;t the be-all and end-all for these issues.

No, they don&#039;t have any special insight into this that the rest of us who&#039;ve tried to make a name don&#039;t have.  And no, they aren&#039;t the only people in SL with techy ability.

The Lindens just happen to have this handy little group, and they are using it for EVERYTHING, without consulting anyone else.  That&#039;s always bad.

coco
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  I haven&#8217;t been wanting the corporations to pay for an extra level of support AT ALL, Thraxis.</p>
<p>NOT ONE BIT.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wanting them to pay more for LAND, as sponsors.</p>
<p>(The idea of having corporations pay the same for land as us is similar to the idea of a married couple deciding that each will pay 50% of everything, when one of them makes $30k a year and the other makes $500k.)</p>
<p>Now you are talking about paying for level of support?  This would translate into:  REAL support for corporations who could afford it, but not for regular people, who could not.</p>
<p>Unlike charging corporations more for land, which is the same commodity, this would amount simply to pricing real support out of reach for regular people.</p>
<p>2.  I don&#8217;t &#8220;bitch and moan&#8221; about the Developers Directory, because it was MY bloody idea in the first place that the Lindens create one!</p>
<p>Suggested to them by me!  So obviously, I&#8217;m happy they have this directory.</p>
<p>As for these name issues, including &#8220;how to improve the process&#8221; and &#8220;make it easier to get to the next step &#8211; NO, the developers aren&#8217;t the be-all and end-all for these issues.</p>
<p>No, they don&#8217;t have any special insight into this that the rest of us who&#8217;ve tried to make a name don&#8217;t have.  And no, they aren&#8217;t the only people in SL with techy ability.</p>
<p>The Lindens just happen to have this handy little group, and they are using it for EVERYTHING, without consulting anyone else.  That&#8217;s always bad.</p>
<p>coco</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27309</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant that sincerely Inigo.  Without Prokofy, the discourse on any comment board would be fairly bland.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant that sincerely Inigo.  Without Prokofy, the discourse on any comment board would be fairly bland.</p>
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		<title>By: Inigo Chamerberlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inigo Chamerberlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &#039;blocked by those 6 million dead accounts&#039; is a very valid point.

Residents to LL: &#039;Just DELETE the millions of unused accounts please - you can still have your fake numbers up to impress the credulous, that&#039;s fine, but do some housekeeping please.

LL to Residents: Is housekeeping fun and cool? We don&#039;t think so! So the answer is NO!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8216;blocked by those 6 million dead accounts&#8217; is a very valid point.</p>
<p>Residents to LL: &#8216;Just DELETE the millions of unused accounts please &#8211; you can still have your fake numbers up to impress the credulous, that&#8217;s fine, but do some housekeeping please.</p>
<p>LL to Residents: Is housekeeping fun and cool? We don&#8217;t think so! So the answer is NO!</p>
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		<title>By: Inigo Chamerberlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inigo Chamerberlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica - you need to zero those sights in properly then.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica &#8211; you need to zero those sights in properly then.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Boomslang</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27306</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Boomslang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here am I thinking that my concierge level allready was making me a special tier worth of support. Oh well, I guess 200 US$ each month just won&#039;t cut it, then. But really - does anybody else think the idea of an additional tier added to your allready probably high tier just to get service is kinda insulting?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here am I thinking that my concierge level allready was making me a special tier worth of support. Oh well, I guess 200 US$ each month just won&#8217;t cut it, then. But really &#8211; does anybody else think the idea of an additional tier added to your allready probably high tier just to get service is kinda insulting?</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27305</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I gather, it&#039;s not a machine that is used for the names, but Daniel Linden picks them out of lists of things on Wikipedia, like &quot;all Supreme Court judges&quot; or &quot;famous Canadian hockey players&quot;. It&#039;s quite possible that this didn&#039;t &quot;scale&quot; and knowing of their love for programming, the Lindens cooked up some name generator that is little different from the thing that tries to dodge your spam filter on Yahoo.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I gather, it&#8217;s not a machine that is used for the names, but Daniel Linden picks them out of lists of things on Wikipedia, like &#8220;all Supreme Court judges&#8221; or &#8220;famous Canadian hockey players&#8221;. It&#8217;s quite possible that this didn&#8217;t &#8220;scale&#8221; and knowing of their love for programming, the Lindens cooked up some name generator that is little different from the thing that tries to dodge your spam filter on Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Nerd</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27304</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis Nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever considered that, because these people are on the developers directory, and more likely to be in contact with the bigger corporations coming in to SL, that they are in a better position to know what their clients are saying?

I myself am on the list because I have a small building company.  I get a lot of enquiries, but few of them turn into actual orders because I try to be honest and explain what SL is, and what people need to do to truly be a part of SL instead of being &#039;in&#039; SL, and they realise perhaps it&#039;s not for them.  I could just lie through my teeth, take the money and run, having provided a half-assed job like some of my bigger competitors who make a living out of SL - but that&#039;s not my style.  Many people who I do speak to say they like my &quot;no bullshit&quot; approach that they experience with other developer companies.

Anyone who knows me in SL knows that I&#039;m the same in pixel format.

Lewis
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever considered that, because these people are on the developers directory, and more likely to be in contact with the bigger corporations coming in to SL, that they are in a better position to know what their clients are saying?</p>
<p>I myself am on the list because I have a small building company.  I get a lot of enquiries, but few of them turn into actual orders because I try to be honest and explain what SL is, and what people need to do to truly be a part of SL instead of being &#8216;in&#8217; SL, and they realise perhaps it&#8217;s not for them.  I could just lie through my teeth, take the money and run, having provided a half-assed job like some of my bigger competitors who make a living out of SL &#8211; but that&#8217;s not my style.  Many people who I do speak to say they like my &#8220;no bullshit&#8221; approach that they experience with other developer companies.</p>
<p>Anyone who knows me in SL knows that I&#8217;m the same in pixel format.</p>
<p>Lewis</p>
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		<title>By: Thraxis Epsilon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/developers-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-27303</link>
		<dc:creator>Thraxis Epsilon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and BTW, when I see names like Ballinger, Cealwin, Etchegaray, Fimicoloud -- actual names in the list right now -- I see my made-up name list just above wasn&#039;t far off&quot;

Ballinger Family Crest - http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/ballinger-family-crest.htm

CEAWLIN (CEALWIN) King Of Wessex

Etchegaray - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Etchegaray

Fimicoloud - Obscure English Term meaning: Living in a dung heap

So of the 4 names you picked as justification to say the names weren&#039;t good... The first is an ancient scottish surname.  The second is the name of a King of Wessex (southwestern England) circa 593.  The third name is the surname of a French Cardinal Bishop of the Roman Catholic church.  The fourth is probably the closest one to something you could complain about due to the definition.

Three of those names may seem odd or worthless to someone in the USA.  But SL is accessed by people from all over the world, and those names may be just what they were looking for.

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Now for those of you who aren&#039;t technical and totaly missed what those two meeting notes said.

The first one: Registration and Name Selection

Says NOTHING AT ALL about picking what last names will be available.  What it does say is they are looking for a dialog on how to improve the process, to make it easier to get to the next step.

And as much as you bitch and moan.  The DEVELOPERS... yes the people you complain about because they get paid for their skills... are the people who will most likely know how to make meaningfull suggestions and who may have some experiance that will help with this process.

As for #2: Paid Tier Support
This is that extra level of payment everyone has been wanting the &quot;Corporations&quot; to pay.. Yes they would then get more support then Concierege, who get more support then Premium, who get more support then basic..

The extra services would be most likely be things like data access for places like SLBoutique or SLExchange for their transactions.  And whatever other premium services that a huge portion of the grid would have no need for.

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Did I know about the meetings?  No
Will I be at the meetings? No

But hey I&#039;m one of those people you like to complain about all the time... you know.. the ones who are helping work on the Open Source client... So after the next patch comes out, you can curse my name and how I&#039;m helping with the downfall of the modern world, when you find you have more control over your chat logging... like the inclusion of dates and the ability to have the regular chat log timestamped.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and BTW, when I see names like Ballinger, Cealwin, Etchegaray, Fimicoloud &#8212; actual names in the list right now &#8212; I see my made-up name list just above wasn&#8217;t far off&#8221;</p>
<p>Ballinger Family Crest &#8211; <a href="http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/ballinger-family-crest.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/ballinger-family-crest.htm</a></p>
<p>CEAWLIN (CEALWIN) King Of Wessex</p>
<p>Etchegaray &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Etchegaray" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Etchegaray</a></p>
<p>Fimicoloud &#8211; Obscure English Term meaning: Living in a dung heap</p>
<p>So of the 4 names you picked as justification to say the names weren&#8217;t good&#8230; The first is an ancient scottish surname.  The second is the name of a King of Wessex (southwestern England) circa 593.  The third name is the surname of a French Cardinal Bishop of the Roman Catholic church.  The fourth is probably the closest one to something you could complain about due to the definition.</p>
<p>Three of those names may seem odd or worthless to someone in the USA.  But SL is accessed by people from all over the world, and those names may be just what they were looking for.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Now for those of you who aren&#8217;t technical and totaly missed what those two meeting notes said.</p>
<p>The first one: Registration and Name Selection</p>
<p>Says NOTHING AT ALL about picking what last names will be available.  What it does say is they are looking for a dialog on how to improve the process, to make it easier to get to the next step.</p>
<p>And as much as you bitch and moan.  The DEVELOPERS&#8230; yes the people you complain about because they get paid for their skills&#8230; are the people who will most likely know how to make meaningfull suggestions and who may have some experiance that will help with this process.</p>
<p>As for #2: Paid Tier Support<br />
This is that extra level of payment everyone has been wanting the &#8220;Corporations&#8221; to pay.. Yes they would then get more support then Concierege, who get more support then Premium, who get more support then basic..</p>
<p>The extra services would be most likely be things like data access for places like SLBoutique or SLExchange for their transactions.  And whatever other premium services that a huge portion of the grid would have no need for.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Did I know about the meetings?  No<br />
Will I be at the meetings? No</p>
<p>But hey I&#8217;m one of those people you like to complain about all the time&#8230; you know.. the ones who are helping work on the Open Source client&#8230; So after the next patch comes out, you can curse my name and how I&#8217;m helping with the downfall of the modern world, when you find you have more control over your chat logging&#8230; like the inclusion of dates and the ability to have the regular chat log timestamped.</p>
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