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		<title>By: Faerie Hax</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/prokofy_neva_fi.html/comment-page-1#comment-28560</link>
		<dc:creator>Faerie Hax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said:  ...&quot;The language/country sims, if they stick close to what people actually want to do, will likely do well, but it might turn out that the last thing that people want to do coming into SL is hang around on their own country&#039;s island, they may wish to leave it as quickly as possible.&quot;....

The language and country based sims have one big advantage over &quot;regular&quot; sims:  timezone.

As an Australian many so called &quot;popular&quot; places are deserted when I visit them and hold events at times that are impossible for me to attend.  So in desperation I started looking up Australian places just to find places with people in them who weren&#039;t camping.

If the language/country sims are half decent then they have a large advantage when it comes to attrcting people from their own timezone!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said:  &#8230;&#8221;The language/country sims, if they stick close to what people actually want to do, will likely do well, but it might turn out that the last thing that people want to do coming into SL is hang around on their own country&#8217;s island, they may wish to leave it as quickly as possible.&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The language and country based sims have one big advantage over &#8220;regular&#8221; sims:  timezone.</p>
<p>As an Australian many so called &#8220;popular&#8221; places are deserted when I visit them and hold events at times that are impossible for me to attend.  So in desperation I started looking up Australian places just to find places with people in them who weren&#8217;t camping.</p>
<p>If the language/country sims are half decent then they have a large advantage when it comes to attrcting people from their own timezone!</p>
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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
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		<dc:creator>shockwave yareach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok:

then your issue is with people behaving like assholes.  Not all those people in the oft mentioned but never seen FIC.  I have no issue with that - SL does seem to have more than its fair share of twits and punks in it.  But whoever this Taco is, what about him makes him part of this uber-techy FIC?  The ability to upload a picture?  His being an ass to you?  Or does he have a company which has access to hidden parts of the SL servers&#039; databases?

Not everyone with tech skill is a jackass and not every jackass is someone with tech skill.  I&#039;ll admit there is a sort of heirarchy in tech circles, yes.  It goes:

knows nothing
beginner
amateur
journeyman/pro-am
master/professional
expert

In general, folks limit their tech talk to those one above or one below their own level.  This isn&#039;t because of an elitest attitude so much as it is difficult to communicate well if the skill level is too far apart.  For example:  Amateurs can demonstrate getting started ideas to beginners and help them learn enough to grow and progress, whereas an expert has moved so far beyond such times that he&#039;s hard pressed to remember basics which are now second nature to him.

You don&#039;t find 20 year tenured professors of English teaching 1st grade reading - it&#039;s the exact same thing.  You can have people who know nothing come up and ask for help, sure.  But about the only thing the experts can do to help the virgin programmer is point them to primers and examples and tell them to learn the basics.  This isn&#039;t egalitarianism though I can see how one who is outside the tech world could misconstrue it as such.  It&#039;s merely a huge difference in skill level.

And quite a few of us teach scripting and building to newcomers.  Taught a physics lesson yesterday after installing the elevator in RCFM, in fact.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok:</p>
<p>then your issue is with people behaving like assholes.  Not all those people in the oft mentioned but never seen FIC.  I have no issue with that &#8211; SL does seem to have more than its fair share of twits and punks in it.  But whoever this Taco is, what about him makes him part of this uber-techy FIC?  The ability to upload a picture?  His being an ass to you?  Or does he have a company which has access to hidden parts of the SL servers&#8217; databases?</p>
<p>Not everyone with tech skill is a jackass and not every jackass is someone with tech skill.  I&#8217;ll admit there is a sort of heirarchy in tech circles, yes.  It goes:</p>
<p>knows nothing<br />
beginner<br />
amateur<br />
journeyman/pro-am<br />
master/professional<br />
expert</p>
<p>In general, folks limit their tech talk to those one above or one below their own level.  This isn&#8217;t because of an elitest attitude so much as it is difficult to communicate well if the skill level is too far apart.  For example:  Amateurs can demonstrate getting started ideas to beginners and help them learn enough to grow and progress, whereas an expert has moved so far beyond such times that he&#8217;s hard pressed to remember basics which are now second nature to him.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t find 20 year tenured professors of English teaching 1st grade reading &#8211; it&#8217;s the exact same thing.  You can have people who know nothing come up and ask for help, sure.  But about the only thing the experts can do to help the virgin programmer is point them to primers and examples and tell them to learn the basics.  This isn&#8217;t egalitarianism though I can see how one who is outside the tech world could misconstrue it as such.  It&#8217;s merely a huge difference in skill level.</p>
<p>And quite a few of us teach scripting and building to newcomers.  Taught a physics lesson yesterday after installing the elevator in RCFM, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/prokofy_neva_fi.html/comment-page-1#comment-28558</link>
		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok said &quot;It&#039;s not for me to persuade a non-entity on a forums who imagines he has delivered &quot;suckah punches&quot; *stifles horse laugh*.&quot;

Well that&#039;s too late now, don&#039;t you think? Cause you already posted. (idiot)

Prok said &quot;I don&#039;t play Slingo or Tringo; never have, never will.&quot;
Yeah, I know, thanks for proving my point. (double sucka?)

Prok said &quot;I participate in all kinds of communities of all sorts.&quot;
Care to list them out before you truly say what you believe about your &quot;community&quot;?

Prok said &quot;Um, ever heard the term &quot;windmilling&quot;?&quot;
Yup.   Kinda a pity in your case, actually. All that ill manner to have attention-desire in forum and posting crap. ;)

Keep posting, Porky, it&#039;s funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok said &#8220;It&#8217;s not for me to persuade a non-entity on a forums who imagines he has delivered &#8220;suckah punches&#8221; *stifles horse laugh*.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s too late now, don&#8217;t you think? Cause you already posted. (idiot)</p>
<p>Prok said &#8220;I don&#8217;t play Slingo or Tringo; never have, never will.&#8221;<br />
Yeah, I know, thanks for proving my point. (double sucka?)</p>
<p>Prok said &#8220;I participate in all kinds of communities of all sorts.&#8221;<br />
Care to list them out before you truly say what you believe about your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>Prok said &#8220;Um, ever heard the term &#8220;windmilling&#8221;?&#8221;<br />
Yup.   Kinda a pity in your case, actually. All that ill manner to have attention-desire in forum and posting crap. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep posting, Porky, it&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, ever heard the term &quot;windmilling&quot;?

I don&#039;t play Slingo or Tringo; never have, never will.

I participate in all kinds of communities of all sorts. It&#039;s not for me to persuade a non-entity on a forums who imagines he has delivered &quot;suckah punches&quot; *stifles horse laugh*.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, ever heard the term &#8220;windmilling&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t play Slingo or Tringo; never have, never will.</p>
<p>I participate in all kinds of communities of all sorts. It&#8217;s not for me to persuade a non-entity on a forums who imagines he has delivered &#8220;suckah punches&#8221; *stifles horse laugh*.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Prok... I love you... but 3700+ words?
I made it through the first 1000 or so, and really liked what you had to say. Even your opinions.

&gt;But, my god, 3700 words? At some point that&#039;s abusing your readers and it detracts heavily from what you are saying. You are better than that

Don&#039;t be silly. Nobody is required to read my long texts. They can skim anything longer than their hand if they have attention issues.

And I simply disagree. I&#039;m not here to play Joe Pulitzer Prize Winning journalist for winning news stories in the mass media vein. I&#039;m here to keep the public record. At the opening of a controversial Linden project, I&#039;ve travelled to many of the sites, talked to their developers, and recorded what is happening.

I&#039;ve also recorded the reaction on the forums, and outlined all the policy issues. I think it&#039;s great. I like to think I could follow in the fine traditions of I.F. Stone, whom I knew and used to talk to occasionally. He would have those densely-packed newsletters in columns with voluminous documents he&#039;d dig up from testimony on the Hill and such -- I&#039;d like to be the I.F. Stone of Second Life, but of course, I&#039;m a mere pale imitation. If only Izzy were alive today. He&#039;d love to pour over chatlogs and mine them, I have no doubt.

I think it&#039;s an important service. It&#039;s not for everybody, and that&#039;s why they can stop reading after the first page with the nut graphs. And if they keep reading, they can skim headlines in bold.

If it weren&#039;t for the descriptions of the trips around the portals, and the policy recommendations, it could be half as long. Or it could be a 3-part series. But who would want a three-part series?

Normally I put long pieces on my own blog precisely to avoid  having people like you bitch. But I feel some issues are just so hugely important for the public to know about and weigh in on that I post them here.

&lt;Prok, the example you gave of a girl enticing a new resident to a club and then propositioning them is different than the example you gave in your article

Jessica, you suffer from a very bad case of tekkie literalism. Pan out, broaden your mind, and try to grasp that both are true, and neither are contradictions and they are in the same genre. To what purpose your trying to pry them apart and claim some discrepancy in their particulars, when they are in the same genre???

1. Madames troll Welcome Areas to recruit dancers and escorts. Or existing dancers recruit new dancers. They catch them, take them back to the club, hire them.

2. The Time reporter happened to get hit on by one of these touts, brought to a club, and propositioned. Go and read it.

Now, both of these are the same thing in essence and in outcome -- newbies are shanghaied by girls or madames trying to get them into clubs, and get them paying escorts OR get them into sexual relationships that may not initially be about payment, but involve getting the girl a house, clothing, etc. Potential clients of the girls are also shanghaied and propositioned. *Same genre*.

Both of these types of incidents spell out the same thing: clubs and girls with little empires of sex work and sugar daddy relationships as well as pimps recruiting both girls and their potential clients from WAs. My God, why on earth is this so hard for you to admit??? Seriously, what is you PURPOSE in trying to pry apart two examples illustrating the different sides of the same *genre*, merely to be a little annoying mosquito trying to focus on the different facets of these two shanghaiing incidents???

shockwave, you still aren&#039;t getting it, though it was already spelled out, so let&#039;s try again, shall we?

&gt;Prok: Never been to second citizen, no. I base my views on you solely on what you yourself write, here and here alone. You seem to strongly dislike anyone who can do something everyone else cannot.

No, that&#039;s silly. I admire all kinds of people in SL who do wonderous tekkie and artistic things. Here&#039;s the difference: those who do this, and yet behave like dicks to other people, arrogant assholes, people who behave badly.

Example: I am putting a picture into SC, and it won&#039;t go in, I&#039;m forgetting exactly what the trick is from Photobucket, which I haven&#039;t used in a while, and on SC, where I don&#039;t post that often, except in self defense, and where picture uploading isn&#039;t the routine it is for all those half-assed kitty posters.

So as I&#039;m trying to put this in, and refreshing a few times and not getting it, this loser who lives in his mom&#039;s basement, Taco Rubio, this loser whose chief claim to fame in SL is making the Upskirt Museum, is sitting there with nothing better to do than refresh his own page, watching me to struggle to upload a picture. He waits until it is in place, then snottily and arrogantly posts something like &quot;Theeerre you go! The Internet is sooo hard, isn&#039;t it!&quot; with dripping sarcasm and superiority.

What a dick! I mean, honestly, can&#039;t you get that? It&#039;s not about *all* technically proficient people. It&#039;s about people like THAT, people like Taco Rubio who shine on this superior shit, and take great evil glee in the fact that you might have a hard time with some little bit of rote technical learning on the Internet ilke IMG or URL or whatsis on a picture. I mean, Jesus, like it&#039;s a big deal to try to humiliate or ridicule a person for??? That someone would have time, and the evil energy of will to harass you like that? They need to be slapped for behaving like that. Can you see the issue?

&gt;Or at least you dislike businesses which some of these creative types form, even though they provide a number of people real money for their labors. I can&#039;t help but wonder if you dislike Honda because they can make a car while you (and I) cannot.

That&#039;s just plain retarded, and you are being dense and literalist in your thinking. Why would I care if Honda can make a car and I can&#039;t? The world exists as a vast exchange of goods and services. If anything, the FIC can&#039;t accept that diversity of goods and services and some of them, like Cristiano, are always beating up on land barons (in that regard it&#039;s funny to hear him rant about Catherine Cotton&#039;s critique, when his has been even more hysterical).

That SL is so stratified and hierarchical is an aberration. That some people find themselves feeling superior is an aberration, not the norm.

&gt;That a kid can come out of nowhere and start building with the same tools everyone else has, and make something marketable, shows a very level playing field to me. And a pretty sharp newbie, too.

No, not really, because he can master the tools, but not get into the star machine and the FIC. And what&#039;s to be resented about him, if he does get to the top of the heap isn&#039;t his skills or his Horatio Alger story, but his being a dick and being condescending and stepping on others. It&#039;s all about the evil glee.

&gt;The system may not be perfect, but it&#039;s far closer to it than RL. You would not believe the cost of the tools needed to be an electronic hobbiest or professional these days.

Yes, we all have a cheap hobby with SL.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Prok&#8230; I love you&#8230; but 3700+ words?<br />
I made it through the first 1000 or so, and really liked what you had to say. Even your opinions.</p>
<p>>But, my god, 3700 words? At some point that&#8217;s abusing your readers and it detracts heavily from what you are saying. You are better than that</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be silly. Nobody is required to read my long texts. They can skim anything longer than their hand if they have attention issues.</p>
<p>And I simply disagree. I&#8217;m not here to play Joe Pulitzer Prize Winning journalist for winning news stories in the mass media vein. I&#8217;m here to keep the public record. At the opening of a controversial Linden project, I&#8217;ve travelled to many of the sites, talked to their developers, and recorded what is happening.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also recorded the reaction on the forums, and outlined all the policy issues. I think it&#8217;s great. I like to think I could follow in the fine traditions of I.F. Stone, whom I knew and used to talk to occasionally. He would have those densely-packed newsletters in columns with voluminous documents he&#8217;d dig up from testimony on the Hill and such &#8212; I&#8217;d like to be the I.F. Stone of Second Life, but of course, I&#8217;m a mere pale imitation. If only Izzy were alive today. He&#8217;d love to pour over chatlogs and mine them, I have no doubt.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s an important service. It&#8217;s not for everybody, and that&#8217;s why they can stop reading after the first page with the nut graphs. And if they keep reading, they can skim headlines in bold.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the descriptions of the trips around the portals, and the policy recommendations, it could be half as long. Or it could be a 3-part series. But who would want a three-part series?</p>
<p>Normally I put long pieces on my own blog precisely to avoid  having people like you bitch. But I feel some issues are just so hugely important for the public to know about and weigh in on that I post them here.</p>
<prok , the example you gave of a girl enticing a new resident to a club and then propositioning them is different than the example you gave in your article</p>
<p>Jessica, you suffer from a very bad case of tekkie literalism. Pan out, broaden your mind, and try to grasp that both are true, and neither are contradictions and they are in the same genre. To what purpose your trying to pry them apart and claim some discrepancy in their particulars, when they are in the same genre???</p>
<p>1. Madames troll Welcome Areas to recruit dancers and escorts. Or existing dancers recruit new dancers. They catch them, take them back to the club, hire them.</p>
<p>2. The Time reporter happened to get hit on by one of these touts, brought to a club, and propositioned. Go and read it.</p>
<p>Now, both of these are the same thing in essence and in outcome -- newbies are shanghaied by girls or madames trying to get them into clubs, and get them paying escorts OR get them into sexual relationships that may not initially be about payment, but involve getting the girl a house, clothing, etc. Potential clients of the girls are also shanghaied and propositioned. *Same genre*.</p>
<p>Both of these types of incidents spell out the same thing: clubs and girls with little empires of sex work and sugar daddy relationships as well as pimps recruiting both girls and their potential clients from WAs. My God, why on earth is this so hard for you to admit??? Seriously, what is you PURPOSE in trying to pry apart two examples illustrating the different sides of the same *genre*, merely to be a little annoying mosquito trying to focus on the different facets of these two shanghaiing incidents???</p>
<p>shockwave, you still aren't getting it, though it was already spelled out, so let's try again, shall we?</p>
<p>>Prok: Never been to second citizen, no. I base my views on you solely on what you yourself write, here and here alone. You seem to strongly dislike anyone who can do something everyone else cannot.</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s silly. I admire all kinds of people in SL who do wonderous tekkie and artistic things. Here&#8217;s the difference: those who do this, and yet behave like dicks to other people, arrogant assholes, people who behave badly.</p>
<p>Example: I am putting a picture into SC, and it won&#8217;t go in, I&#8217;m forgetting exactly what the trick is from Photobucket, which I haven&#8217;t used in a while, and on SC, where I don&#8217;t post that often, except in self defense, and where picture uploading isn&#8217;t the routine it is for all those half-assed kitty posters.</p>
<p>So as I&#8217;m trying to put this in, and refreshing a few times and not getting it, this loser who lives in his mom&#8217;s basement, Taco Rubio, this loser whose chief claim to fame in SL is making the Upskirt Museum, is sitting there with nothing better to do than refresh his own page, watching me to struggle to upload a picture. He waits until it is in place, then snottily and arrogantly posts something like &#8220;Theeerre you go! The Internet is sooo hard, isn&#8217;t it!&#8221; with dripping sarcasm and superiority.</p>
<p>What a dick! I mean, honestly, can&#8217;t you get that? It&#8217;s not about *all* technically proficient people. It&#8217;s about people like THAT, people like Taco Rubio who shine on this superior shit, and take great evil glee in the fact that you might have a hard time with some little bit of rote technical learning on the Internet ilke IMG or URL or whatsis on a picture. I mean, Jesus, like it&#8217;s a big deal to try to humiliate or ridicule a person for??? That someone would have time, and the evil energy of will to harass you like that? They need to be slapped for behaving like that. Can you see the issue?</p>
<p>>Or at least you dislike businesses which some of these creative types form, even though they provide a number of people real money for their labors. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if you dislike Honda because they can make a car while you (and I) cannot.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just plain retarded, and you are being dense and literalist in your thinking. Why would I care if Honda can make a car and I can&#8217;t? The world exists as a vast exchange of goods and services. If anything, the FIC can&#8217;t accept that diversity of goods and services and some of them, like Cristiano, are always beating up on land barons (in that regard it&#8217;s funny to hear him rant about Catherine Cotton&#8217;s critique, when his has been even more hysterical).</p>
<p>That SL is so stratified and hierarchical is an aberration. That some people find themselves feeling superior is an aberration, not the norm.</p>
<p>>That a kid can come out of nowhere and start building with the same tools everyone else has, and make something marketable, shows a very level playing field to me. And a pretty sharp newbie, too.</p>
<p>No, not really, because he can master the tools, but not get into the star machine and the FIC. And what&#8217;s to be resented about him, if he does get to the top of the heap isn&#8217;t his skills or his Horatio Alger story, but his being a dick and being condescending and stepping on others. It&#8217;s all about the evil glee.</p>
<p>>The system may not be perfect, but it&#8217;s far closer to it than RL. You would not believe the cost of the tools needed to be an electronic hobbiest or professional these days.</p>
<p>Yes, we all have a cheap hobby with SL.</prok>
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		<title>By: Nacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok said &quot;Actually, I do, but it&#039;s not for me to persuade you.&quot;

HAHHAHAHA!  I was expecting you would say that. Now let me dig you up from your grave.

Is the FIC people, that you made up, always against you, is your &quot;community&quot;?

All the Herald people which you said &quot;Being in the &quot;community&quot; called the &quot;Herald pool of reporters&quot; confers no tribal bonhomie and espirt de corps that you might imagine&quot; is your &quot;community&quot;? (duh, from your statement, no)

All the people who rants and posts against you in Herald is your &quot;community&quot;?

All the people from SC forum is your &quot;community&quot;?

All the people you play with at Tingo or Sligno, whom only want to win more money... is your &quot;community&quot;?

All the goons and morons from W-Hat, for some likes to dress up like you with a Nazi uniform on... is your &quot;community&quot;?

Clearly, you don&#039;t have any &quot;community&quot; except one... The people who rents from your lands... is your community.

Oops! shouldn&#039;t you call that &quot;Business Portal&quot;? If renting is not your business, then what the hell is it?

Now let me push you back in your own grave where you&#039;ve gotten into.

Prok said &quot;Again, this is merely your tendentious and bilious judgement, not &quot;reality&quot;.&quot;
Right, that&#039;s what you thought, but my judgement is merely based on your own judgement about how they should do their business.  Ever heard of term &quot;the Sucka Punch&quot;? ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok said &#8220;Actually, I do, but it&#8217;s not for me to persuade you.&#8221;</p>
<p>HAHHAHAHA!  I was expecting you would say that. Now let me dig you up from your grave.</p>
<p>Is the FIC people, that you made up, always against you, is your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>All the Herald people which you said &#8220;Being in the &#8220;community&#8221; called the &#8220;Herald pool of reporters&#8221; confers no tribal bonhomie and espirt de corps that you might imagine&#8221; is your &#8220;community&#8221;? (duh, from your statement, no)</p>
<p>All the people who rants and posts against you in Herald is your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>All the people from SC forum is your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>All the people you play with at Tingo or Sligno, whom only want to win more money&#8230; is your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>All the goons and morons from W-Hat, for some likes to dress up like you with a Nazi uniform on&#8230; is your &#8220;community&#8221;?</p>
<p>Clearly, you don&#8217;t have any &#8220;community&#8221; except one&#8230; The people who rents from your lands&#8230; is your community.</p>
<p>Oops! shouldn&#8217;t you call that &#8220;Business Portal&#8221;? If renting is not your business, then what the hell is it?</p>
<p>Now let me push you back in your own grave where you&#8217;ve gotten into.</p>
<p>Prok said &#8220;Again, this is merely your tendentious and bilious judgement, not &#8220;reality&#8221;.&#8221;<br />
Right, that&#8217;s what you thought, but my judgement is merely based on your own judgement about how they should do their business.  Ever heard of term &#8220;the Sucka Punch&#8221;? <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ouchquack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ouchquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok... I love you... but 3700+ words?
I made it through the first 1000 or so, and really liked what you had to say. Even your opinions.

But, my god, 3700 words? At some point that&#039;s abusing your readers and it detracts heavily from what you are saying. You are better than that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok&#8230; I love you&#8230; but 3700+ words?<br />
I made it through the first 1000 or so, and really liked what you had to say. Even your opinions.</p>
<p>But, my god, 3700 words? At some point that&#8217;s abusing your readers and it detracts heavily from what you are saying. You are better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok:  Never been to second citizen, no.  I base my views on you solely on what you yourself write, here and here alone.  You seem to strongly dislike anyone who can do something everyone else cannot.  Or at least you dislike businesses which some of these creative types form, even though they provide a number of people real money for their labors.  I can&#039;t help but wonder if you dislike Honda because they can make a car while you (and I) cannot.

That a kid can come out of nowhere and start building with the same tools everyone else has, and make something marketable, shows a very level playing field to me.  And a pretty sharp newbie, too.  The system may not be perfect, but it&#039;s far closer to it than RL.  You would not believe the cost of the tools needed to be an electronic hobbiest or professional these days.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok:  Never been to second citizen, no.  I base my views on you solely on what you yourself write, here and here alone.  You seem to strongly dislike anyone who can do something everyone else cannot.  Or at least you dislike businesses which some of these creative types form, even though they provide a number of people real money for their labors.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder if you dislike Honda because they can make a car while you (and I) cannot.</p>
<p>That a kid can come out of nowhere and start building with the same tools everyone else has, and make something marketable, shows a very level playing field to me.  And a pretty sharp newbie, too.  The system may not be perfect, but it&#8217;s far closer to it than RL.  You would not believe the cost of the tools needed to be an electronic hobbiest or professional these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Yeah yeah yeah... You always feel like that because ESC is part of it.

I think it&#039;s important for the free media to keep a watch on big business, yes. In RL as in SL.

&gt;Here&#039;s a thing, Prok, when you want to take a stand about how it shouldn&#039;t be called &quot;community&quot;... keep in mind, you don&#039;t have any &quot;community&quot;, not even yourself counts.

Actually, I do, but it&#039;s not for me to persuade you. There are many communities in SL. You&#039;re not the judge.

&gt;And of course, they owns their own sims and servers, you&#039;re just feeling upset because you&#039;re too poor to make a difference or even having a &quot;community&quot;. You&#039;re just not worth to have a &quot;community&quot; with you, so speak for yourself.

Again, this is merely your tendentious and bilious judgement, not &quot;reality&quot;.

&gt;Of course you&#039;re just writing this because you&#039;re &quot;Herald&quot; reporter, duty to speak for the readers.. but still not a real one either. Too many people still hate your ill gut because you don&#039;t know when to shut up. ;)

Yes, I realize it&#039;s a geeky Internetoid concept now, that we see in this case of Jason Calacanis, the blogger, that reporters from RL media asking for telephone interviews, for example, are challenged that they &quot;don&#039;t represent the public&quot; and have no authority. Like...bloggers do lol?

Of course the free media has already represented the public&#039;s right to know. The failure of a new generation of tekkies schooled on the Internet and fatuous social media junk thinking to get this is really a grave liability for this generation that will have a huge impact that will ultimately bite them in the ass.

&gt;(btw, are you just now ditching your &quot;Herald&quot; friend, Tenshi? Hahaha, what a world.)

Tenshi has never been my friend, anywhere. I don&#039;t know what she means by her &quot;friend&quot; in her ranting on SC, it must be someone else.

Being in the &quot;community&quot; called the &quot;Herald pool of reporters&quot; confers no tribal bonhomie and espirt de corps that you might imagine. Uri barely tolerates me, for example, and has never bought me a RL drink, not even a Diet Coke. Pixeleen recently bought rats and let them loose in the Herald office and they nibble at my Lime Tostata chips, which has been really icky.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Yeah yeah yeah&#8230; You always feel like that because ESC is part of it.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important for the free media to keep a watch on big business, yes. In RL as in SL.</p>
<p>>Here&#8217;s a thing, Prok, when you want to take a stand about how it shouldn&#8217;t be called &#8220;community&#8221;&#8230; keep in mind, you don&#8217;t have any &#8220;community&#8221;, not even yourself counts.</p>
<p>Actually, I do, but it&#8217;s not for me to persuade you. There are many communities in SL. You&#8217;re not the judge.</p>
<p>>And of course, they owns their own sims and servers, you&#8217;re just feeling upset because you&#8217;re too poor to make a difference or even having a &#8220;community&#8221;. You&#8217;re just not worth to have a &#8220;community&#8221; with you, so speak for yourself.</p>
<p>Again, this is merely your tendentious and bilious judgement, not &#8220;reality&#8221;.</p>
<p>>Of course you&#8217;re just writing this because you&#8217;re &#8220;Herald&#8221; reporter, duty to speak for the readers.. but still not a real one either. Too many people still hate your ill gut because you don&#8217;t know when to shut up. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I realize it&#8217;s a geeky Internetoid concept now, that we see in this case of Jason Calacanis, the blogger, that reporters from RL media asking for telephone interviews, for example, are challenged that they &#8220;don&#8217;t represent the public&#8221; and have no authority. Like&#8230;bloggers do lol?</p>
<p>Of course the free media has already represented the public&#8217;s right to know. The failure of a new generation of tekkies schooled on the Internet and fatuous social media junk thinking to get this is really a grave liability for this generation that will have a huge impact that will ultimately bite them in the ass.</p>
<p>>(btw, are you just now ditching your &#8220;Herald&#8221; friend, Tenshi? Hahaha, what a world.)</p>
<p>Tenshi has never been my friend, anywhere. I don&#8217;t know what she means by her &#8220;friend&#8221; in her ranting on SC, it must be someone else.</p>
<p>Being in the &#8220;community&#8221; called the &#8220;Herald pool of reporters&#8221; confers no tribal bonhomie and espirt de corps that you might imagine. Uri barely tolerates me, for example, and has never bought me a RL drink, not even a Diet Coke. Pixeleen recently bought rats and let them loose in the Herald office and they nibble at my Lime Tostata chips, which has been really icky.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet Prok, this &quot;newb&quot; is clearly one of the technocrati and self-created developers you seem to loathe so much. He makes things, so he must be part of the FIC class. After all, he can do things that most residents cannot, which is blatantly unfair. Right?

shockwave, you must read Second Citizen too much or not read my long posts. The FIC isn&#039;t &quot;allt hose who are technocrati and self-created developers&quot;. The FIC is those who are those things *and behave like arrogant dicks lording it over others, and actively trying to discriminate against them and seek rites and rituals of favouritism for their class vis-a-vis Linden Lab*.

The FIC or people I criticize (not &quot;hate&quot;) aren&#039;t &quot;all technically proficient people&quot; or &quot;all talented people&quot; but some of the people in those classes of residents who also advocate that others should be activtely discouraged from a level playing field.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet Prok, this &#8220;newb&#8221; is clearly one of the technocrati and self-created developers you seem to loathe so much. He makes things, so he must be part of the FIC class. After all, he can do things that most residents cannot, which is blatantly unfair. Right?</p>
<p>shockwave, you must read Second Citizen too much or not read my long posts. The FIC isn&#8217;t &#8220;allt hose who are technocrati and self-created developers&#8221;. The FIC is those who are those things *and behave like arrogant dicks lording it over others, and actively trying to discriminate against them and seek rites and rituals of favouritism for their class vis-a-vis Linden Lab*.</p>
<p>The FIC or people I criticize (not &#8220;hate&#8221;) aren&#8217;t &#8220;all technically proficient people&#8221; or &#8220;all talented people&#8221; but some of the people in those classes of residents who also advocate that others should be activtely discouraged from a level playing field.</p>
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