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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you two IDIOTS take your tongue dance somewhere else?

No small wonder you were both banned from CC.

Actually, on second thought, keep going, do it everywhere you can, then maybe you two jackaranders will get banned from some more places and we wont have to wade through quite as many pages of your puffed up, back and forth banter.

As for the ACTUAL TOPIC - I don&#039;t think this French group is nearly as worrisome as what we are going to face when the American religious right starts to really get wind of SL. I am building my SLallout shelter as we speak.

*Buys several years worth of beef jerky, bottled water, black cherry soda and TWINKIES!*
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you two IDIOTS take your tongue dance somewhere else?</p>
<p>No small wonder you were both banned from CC.</p>
<p>Actually, on second thought, keep going, do it everywhere you can, then maybe you two jackaranders will get banned from some more places and we wont have to wade through quite as many pages of your puffed up, back and forth banter.</p>
<p>As for the ACTUAL TOPIC &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this French group is nearly as worrisome as what we are going to face when the American religious right starts to really get wind of SL. I am building my SLallout shelter as we speak.</p>
<p>*Buys several years worth of beef jerky, bottled water, black cherry soda and TWINKIES!*</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/watchdogs_yap_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-28596</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Kryss, allow me to suggest to you a shut-the-fuck-up sandwich. You haven&#039;t followed the whole thing, you&#039;re tuning in at the 11th hour, and just being a bitch. I don&#039;t care what C. Sven does. Over the years, the percentage of posts devoted to C. Sven are something like .0002 or something. Sometimes arguments must be made, and made persistently, and made forcefully, and made repeatedly, until trolls operating in profoundly cynical bad faith give up. So I&#039;ve succeeded here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Kryss, allow me to suggest to you a shut-the-fuck-up sandwich. You haven&#8217;t followed the whole thing, you&#8217;re tuning in at the 11th hour, and just being a bitch. I don&#8217;t care what C. Sven does. Over the years, the percentage of posts devoted to C. Sven are something like .0002 or something. Sometimes arguments must be made, and made persistently, and made forcefully, and made repeatedly, until trolls operating in profoundly cynical bad faith give up. So I&#8217;ve succeeded here.</p>
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		<title>By: JTG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kryss Wanweird</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/watchdogs_yap_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-28594</link>
		<dc:creator>Kryss Wanweird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Prokofy,

I noticed that you mention *csven* on 100% of your posts. I just hope you didn&#039;t fall in love with him, because he left you, too, some posts ago.

&quot;Well folks, my time on this issue is done. It was an interesting couple of weeks and I look forward to hearing further news on all fronts in the near future. All the best.
Posted by: csven &#124; June 04, 2007 at 03:41 PM &quot;

Allow me to suggest a day-spa :)




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Prokofy,</p>
<p>I noticed that you mention *csven* on 100% of your posts. I just hope you didn&#8217;t fall in love with him, because he left you, too, some posts ago.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well folks, my time on this issue is done. It was an interesting couple of weeks and I look forward to hearing further news on all fronts in the near future. All the best.<br />
Posted by: csven | June 04, 2007 at 03:41 PM &#8221;</p>
<p>Allow me to suggest a day-spa <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/watchdogs_yap_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-28593</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, where do you get this concept that I&#039;m &quot;pro-regulation&quot;? I&#039;m not for the Lindens regulating speech. I&#039;ve never called for that. I myself wish to use my own free speech to condemn extremism. If the Lindens have a policy against this extremism, too, I can only applaud them as I share their concerns. If the First Amendment were applicable to them, I&#039;d wish to apply it, however, regardless of my own morals. My own morals can&#039;t be imposed on other people, but other people can&#039;t impose theirs on me, either, and that&#039;s what they do when they invade the public domain. I think we can agree the private domain should be unregulated.

The Lindens have actually told us in office hours that we ourselves will define what is extreme under their new &quot;safety&quot; stuff and report it. Will I be reporting swingsets? No, of course not. And I wouldn&#039;t run screaming to Lindens anyway, I&#039;d remove it myself, duh. Will I be camming into my tenants&#039; homes? No, not unless I have &quot;probable cause,&quot; and with lots of parcels and constantly moving and changing content, I doubt I&#039;ll have that luxury. Like Lindens, I&#039;ll have to wait for a complaint and investigate it. Will I follow the government&#039;s directive in our subways now, &quot;If you see something, say something!&quot; -- sure, if I see RL child porn or stuff that is so extremely violent or nasty that it seems like if I *don&#039;t* report it and/or return it, someone will report ME to settle scores. See how this sick system works?

I feel it necessary to make a challenge to each and every Herald reporter. Who but we can try to secure freedom of speech, free of fear or favour? That&#039;s why I think we need to show social solidarity in situations like that. It doesn&#039;t mean getting involved in some kind of drama fest or writing or reading large amounts. It&#039;s one line. It says &quot;You&#039;re out of line and I condemn what you&#039;re doing&#039; when someone tries to intimidate a Herald reporter.

My God, I sure went to the mat for you when that dingbat in Terra Nova was trying to wipe the floor with you, he was way out of line.

No, you&#039;re under no obligation to do a damn thing. Since you&#039;re writing on this subject however, going far afield from your beat, I thought, well, why go to France? Why not look down the road in Patagonia? And BTW, I did write you first inworld, didn&#039;t get a response for a day, and then figured I&#039;d comment here.

&gt;sven&#039;s terrible debate practices are too obvious to even need comment.

Oh? Well, you&#039;d never know it, would you? Because nobody ever says so. They need to say so. There needs to be a cacophonous chorus. Everyone who sees this too-obvious thing needs to say &quot;you&#039;re debate practices are terrible&quot; and then it will force him to think twice -- peer pressure is all we have, precisely because it&#039;s an environment that should NOT be regulated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, where do you get this concept that I&#8217;m &#8220;pro-regulation&#8221;? I&#8217;m not for the Lindens regulating speech. I&#8217;ve never called for that. I myself wish to use my own free speech to condemn extremism. If the Lindens have a policy against this extremism, too, I can only applaud them as I share their concerns. If the First Amendment were applicable to them, I&#8217;d wish to apply it, however, regardless of my own morals. My own morals can&#8217;t be imposed on other people, but other people can&#8217;t impose theirs on me, either, and that&#8217;s what they do when they invade the public domain. I think we can agree the private domain should be unregulated.</p>
<p>The Lindens have actually told us in office hours that we ourselves will define what is extreme under their new &#8220;safety&#8221; stuff and report it. Will I be reporting swingsets? No, of course not. And I wouldn&#8217;t run screaming to Lindens anyway, I&#8217;d remove it myself, duh. Will I be camming into my tenants&#8217; homes? No, not unless I have &#8220;probable cause,&#8221; and with lots of parcels and constantly moving and changing content, I doubt I&#8217;ll have that luxury. Like Lindens, I&#8217;ll have to wait for a complaint and investigate it. Will I follow the government&#8217;s directive in our subways now, &#8220;If you see something, say something!&#8221; &#8212; sure, if I see RL child porn or stuff that is so extremely violent or nasty that it seems like if I *don&#8217;t* report it and/or return it, someone will report ME to settle scores. See how this sick system works?</p>
<p>I feel it necessary to make a challenge to each and every Herald reporter. Who but we can try to secure freedom of speech, free of fear or favour? That&#8217;s why I think we need to show social solidarity in situations like that. It doesn&#8217;t mean getting involved in some kind of drama fest or writing or reading large amounts. It&#8217;s one line. It says &#8220;You&#8217;re out of line and I condemn what you&#8217;re doing&#8217; when someone tries to intimidate a Herald reporter.</p>
<p>My God, I sure went to the mat for you when that dingbat in Terra Nova was trying to wipe the floor with you, he was way out of line.</p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re under no obligation to do a damn thing. Since you&#8217;re writing on this subject however, going far afield from your beat, I thought, well, why go to France? Why not look down the road in Patagonia? And BTW, I did write you first inworld, didn&#8217;t get a response for a day, and then figured I&#8217;d comment here.</p>
<p>>sven&#8217;s terrible debate practices are too obvious to even need comment.</p>
<p>Oh? Well, you&#8217;d never know it, would you? Because nobody ever says so. They need to say so. There needs to be a cacophonous chorus. Everyone who sees this too-obvious thing needs to say &#8220;you&#8217;re debate practices are terrible&#8221; and then it will force him to think twice &#8212; peer pressure is all we have, precisely because it&#8217;s an environment that should NOT be regulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Onder Skall</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/watchdogs_yap_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-28592</link>
		<dc:creator>Onder Skall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prokofy - I&#039;m not going to go point-by-point with you here about censorship. We have our opinions and won&#039;t ever dissuade each other. You&#039;re pro-regulation, and I&#039;m anti. Points are obvious, well investigated and fleshed out on both sides, have been for a  decade, so... bleh. Done.

I am, however, dismayed that you interpret my &quot;silence&quot; as &quot;endorsement&quot; with the Csven situation. Others might interpret it as &quot;too damn busy to get involved in political drama&quot;, or perhaps &quot;only bothers writing about something if there&#039;s an article in it.&quot; I haven&#039;t even read comments to my own articles in a couple of weeks... today was a bit of an exception.

I focus on writing news articles. They&#039;re generally about games and business whenever possible, although if something is amusing (like this story) I&#039;ll send it in to the Herald so that we can all have a laugh. I am, however, making a sincere effort to get the hell out of the drama biz.

So I&#039;m not interested in debating what public statements I should have made or what my personal situation is so that I might somehow justify my opinion. I&#039;ll keep my opinion to myself whenever it suits me and feel 100% justified in doing so for reasons I feel 100% justified NOT explaining. I don&#039;t owe anybody an explanation for anything I do or don&#039;t do.

I linked your blog about the Csven situation from here http://www.metaversed.com/onder-skall/blog/30-may-2007/linktasticness-may-30-2007 last week, and allowed it to speak for itself... Csven&#039;s terrible debate practices are too obvious to even need comment. That&#039;s not the point though... the key point is that I&#039;m not under any OBLIGATION to comment further. My not making any particular statement DOES NOT CONDONE A DAMN THING. You can interpret it that way if you feel like it, but that&#039;s going to be your problem, not mine. I&#039;ll deal with my problems and live my life my way, not yours. OK?

Apologies for being so repetitive and vehement. It&#039;s aggravating to be dealing with this kind of accusation in a public forum rather than through email.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prokofy &#8211; I&#8217;m not going to go point-by-point with you here about censorship. We have our opinions and won&#8217;t ever dissuade each other. You&#8217;re pro-regulation, and I&#8217;m anti. Points are obvious, well investigated and fleshed out on both sides, have been for a  decade, so&#8230; bleh. Done.</p>
<p>I am, however, dismayed that you interpret my &#8220;silence&#8221; as &#8220;endorsement&#8221; with the Csven situation. Others might interpret it as &#8220;too damn busy to get involved in political drama&#8221;, or perhaps &#8220;only bothers writing about something if there&#8217;s an article in it.&#8221; I haven&#8217;t even read comments to my own articles in a couple of weeks&#8230; today was a bit of an exception.</p>
<p>I focus on writing news articles. They&#8217;re generally about games and business whenever possible, although if something is amusing (like this story) I&#8217;ll send it in to the Herald so that we can all have a laugh. I am, however, making a sincere effort to get the hell out of the drama biz.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not interested in debating what public statements I should have made or what my personal situation is so that I might somehow justify my opinion. I&#8217;ll keep my opinion to myself whenever it suits me and feel 100% justified in doing so for reasons I feel 100% justified NOT explaining. I don&#8217;t owe anybody an explanation for anything I do or don&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>I linked your blog about the Csven situation from here <a href="http://www.metaversed.com/onder-skall/blog/30-may-2007/linktasticness-may-30-2007" rel="nofollow">http://www.metaversed.com/onder-skall/blog/30-may-2007/linktasticness-may-30-2007</a> last week, and allowed it to speak for itself&#8230; Csven&#8217;s terrible debate practices are too obvious to even need comment. That&#8217;s not the point though&#8230; the key point is that I&#8217;m not under any OBLIGATION to comment further. My not making any particular statement DOES NOT CONDONE A DAMN THING. You can interpret it that way if you feel like it, but that&#8217;s going to be your problem, not mine. I&#8217;ll deal with my problems and live my life my way, not yours. OK?</p>
<p>Apologies for being so repetitive and vehement. It&#8217;s aggravating to be dealing with this kind of accusation in a public forum rather than through email.</p>
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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
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		<dc:creator>shockwave yareach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pierre-Olivier</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/06/watchdogs_yap_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-28590</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre-Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Famille de France is a really - small - ultra-conservative group. We just know them because of these stupid actions, made by them mainly for buzz.

I think that we should block MSN Messenger, Google Images, Meetic and MySpace too. By the way, take care to the Teletubbies !

Please do not imagine this is a way of thinking in France or Europe !

Pierre-Olivier... from France (pcarles at gmail dot com)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Famille de France is a really &#8211; small &#8211; ultra-conservative group. We just know them because of these stupid actions, made by them mainly for buzz.</p>
<p>I think that we should block MSN Messenger, Google Images, Meetic and MySpace too. By the way, take care to the Teletubbies !</p>
<p>Please do not imagine this is a way of thinking in France or Europe !</p>
<p>Pierre-Olivier&#8230; from France (pcarles at gmail dot com)</p>
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		<title>By: Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok - drop the bullshit m&#039;kay? it&#039;s apparent to anyone with even a single brain cell that you&#039;re pissed off at being locked out from yet another venue into which to spew your attempts at logical debate, along with your badly skewed world view within which you are some sort of moral crusader fighting for the little guy.

They &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; few people that give a shit that you were locked out of another web page will contact you to bolster your ego ....

do not bother trying to make a rebuttal to any of this either Prokofy dear - You&#039;ll just be proving each and every word true as you always do when &#039;pushing back&#039; or any other such nonsense you may spew to justify what amounts to a hissy fit from someone who, by all accounts, should be old enough to have grown out of that grade school mentality.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok &#8211; drop the bullshit m&#8217;kay? it&#8217;s apparent to anyone with even a single brain cell that you&#8217;re pissed off at being locked out from yet another venue into which to spew your attempts at logical debate, along with your badly skewed world view within which you are some sort of moral crusader fighting for the little guy.</p>
<p>They <b>very</b> few people that give a shit that you were locked out of another web page will contact you to bolster your ego &#8230;.</p>
<p>do not bother trying to make a rebuttal to any of this either Prokofy dear &#8211; You&#8217;ll just be proving each and every word true as you always do when &#8216;pushing back&#8217; or any other such nonsense you may spew to justify what amounts to a hissy fit from someone who, by all accounts, should be old enough to have grown out of that grade school mentality.</p>
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