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	<title>Comments on: Is Second Life&#8217;s Economy Tanking?</title>
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		<title>By: Soma.</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25700</link>
		<dc:creator>Soma.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Soma overnight.&lt;/strong&gt;

Soma. Soma sen. Soma addiction and lying.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Soma overnight.</strong></p>
<p>Soma. Soma sen. Soma addiction and lying.</p>
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		<title>By: mobile phones with free gifts</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25701</link>
		<dc:creator>mobile phones with free gifts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;mobile phones with free gifts&lt;/strong&gt;

Don&#039;t buy your next mobile phone until you know about the free gidts avaiable from a trusted name like Tesco
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>mobile phones with free gifts</strong></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t buy your next mobile phone until you know about the free gidts avaiable from a trusted name like Tesco</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Sugar</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25699</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey Sugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think LL should open up the server code for developers to create their own grids and connect to the SL grid. We&#039;ll get better content, probably better support from the 3rd parties and I would think a better gaming experience. We had the client opened up recently ... the next best step would be for LL to open up the server code and allow mini-grids to attach to the main grid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think LL should open up the server code for developers to create their own grids and connect to the SL grid. We&#8217;ll get better content, probably better support from the 3rd parties and I would think a better gaming experience. We had the client opened up recently &#8230; the next best step would be for LL to open up the server code and allow mini-grids to attach to the main grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25698</link>
		<dc:creator>Sin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think SL is going down...all the problems are cummulative. I don&#039;t see too many newbies entering these days...as 4 or 5 months ago. And many people that entered then, are starting to leave.
-Voice: what for?..try talking in a crowd with 5 people at same time.
-Sex and ID verification
-Casinos
-No free 1st land
-Land too expensive: even with the new continent..Land Barons will buy it all and keep the price up.
-Land and L$ appearing from air. A great ticket into recession.
-People knowing is hard to get a RL income from SL.
-Bad News, Bad comments, Bad Blog posts
-Griefers
-add yours....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think SL is going down&#8230;all the problems are cummulative. I don&#8217;t see too many newbies entering these days&#8230;as 4 or 5 months ago. And many people that entered then, are starting to leave.<br />
-Voice: what for?..try talking in a crowd with 5 people at same time.<br />
-Sex and ID verification<br />
-Casinos<br />
-No free 1st land<br />
-Land too expensive: even with the new continent..Land Barons will buy it all and keep the price up.<br />
-Land and L$ appearing from air. A great ticket into recession.<br />
-People knowing is hard to get a RL income from SL.<br />
-Bad News, Bad comments, Bad Blog posts<br />
-Griefers<br />
-add yours&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock Ramona</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25697</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock Ramona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its really simple,6 months ago i was paying 165us in tier and spending 50 us on stuff id buy in world...soon,i couldnt move on my sim ,performance went to hell,unverifieds griefers rule the world,got to the point where i couldnt drive my cars,fly my planes or use my boats..i complained and the Lidens told me so sad,to bad,so to hell with them,i havent spent a penny in SecodLife in months on anything,and i never will again,no big mystery here folks,,this place is nothing to me but a free chat room nowadays,,,i used to be upset with the griefers,now i just laugh,log off and say let em grief,anyone who stays here and spends their money and supports these peopleis a fool,take that money and spend it on yer kids,give it to your church,buy a homeless person a Big Mac
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its really simple,6 months ago i was paying 165us in tier and spending 50 us on stuff id buy in world&#8230;soon,i couldnt move on my sim ,performance went to hell,unverifieds griefers rule the world,got to the point where i couldnt drive my cars,fly my planes or use my boats..i complained and the Lidens told me so sad,to bad,so to hell with them,i havent spent a penny in SecodLife in months on anything,and i never will again,no big mystery here folks,,this place is nothing to me but a free chat room nowadays,,,i used to be upset with the griefers,now i just laugh,log off and say let em grief,anyone who stays here and spends their money and supports these peopleis a fool,take that money and spend it on yer kids,give it to your church,buy a homeless person a Big Mac</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Rousselot</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25696</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Rousselot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan,

LL has only been providing the numbers needed for the analysis since September 2005. So, we can&#039;t look very far back to see if there is a trend. however, I did take a closer look at 2006 and there is a small drop in the economy in the summer of 2006. The 2007 drop is much more pronounced but then the population base is a lot bigger too.

There is a good possibility that we are seeing a summer slowdown which will start to pick up sometime in August or September. There isn&#039;t really enough data to do a real trend analysis and a number of factors have changed significantly since last year. Most notably:

- changes in the gambling industry (no casino advertising)
- changes in the sex industry (broadly offensive and age verification)
- changes in the land industry (no more First Land; which was broken anyway)
- more changes in the land industry (LL is only selling whole SIMs, no more small plots)
- huge increase in population since last fall

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan,</p>
<p>LL has only been providing the numbers needed for the analysis since September 2005. So, we can&#8217;t look very far back to see if there is a trend. however, I did take a closer look at 2006 and there is a small drop in the economy in the summer of 2006. The 2007 drop is much more pronounced but then the population base is a lot bigger too.</p>
<p>There is a good possibility that we are seeing a summer slowdown which will start to pick up sometime in August or September. There isn&#8217;t really enough data to do a real trend analysis and a number of factors have changed significantly since last year. Most notably:</p>
<p>- changes in the gambling industry (no casino advertising)<br />
- changes in the sex industry (broadly offensive and age verification)<br />
- changes in the land industry (no more First Land; which was broken anyway)<br />
- more changes in the land industry (LL is only selling whole SIMs, no more small plots)<br />
- huge increase in population since last fall</p>
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		<title>By: Tristin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if you looed back to all the summers that SL has had up to now and compared them...would it show that SL is takinging...personally I think SL has had a great run and its going down the tubes now. The lab refuses to listen to its customer base and instead listens to just the people on its fourms. I&#039;ll ride till SL is dead and burried I just wish a &quot;new&quot; SL would happen along before this one dies
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if you looed back to all the summers that SL has had up to now and compared them&#8230;would it show that SL is takinging&#8230;personally I think SL has had a great run and its going down the tubes now. The lab refuses to listen to its customer base and instead listens to just the people on its fourms. I&#8217;ll ride till SL is dead and burried I just wish a &#8220;new&#8221; SL would happen along before this one dies</p>
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		<title>By: Khamon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25694</link>
		<dc:creator>Khamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Prokofy, you&#039;re just being contrary telling me &quot;no&quot; then repeating me almost verbatim.

If there is more Mainland than there was a year ago, and fewer premium accounts than there was a year ago, then either the residents own more land per capita, or Governor Linden owns more land. The only way to argue those points is to tell me no, I&#039;m wrong, then repeat them as your own.

I do agree that we need separate figures for average cost of estate and Mainland parcels, and that Linden Lab prints land for the sole purpose of balancing the quarterly bottom line. But those points don&#039;t invalidate my statement.

If you want to talk seriously about this stuff, communicate something other than &quot;everything anybody else says is automatically wrong.&quot; That&#039;s the impression I get from most of your posts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Prokofy, you&#8217;re just being contrary telling me &#8220;no&#8221; then repeating me almost verbatim.</p>
<p>If there is more Mainland than there was a year ago, and fewer premium accounts than there was a year ago, then either the residents own more land per capita, or Governor Linden owns more land. The only way to argue those points is to tell me no, I&#8217;m wrong, then repeat them as your own.</p>
<p>I do agree that we need separate figures for average cost of estate and Mainland parcels, and that Linden Lab prints land for the sole purpose of balancing the quarterly bottom line. But those points don&#8217;t invalidate my statement.</p>
<p>If you want to talk seriously about this stuff, communicate something other than &#8220;everything anybody else says is automatically wrong.&#8221; That&#8217;s the impression I get from most of your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/is-second-lifes.html/comment-page-1#comment-25693</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khamon, no, the quote is still wrong. One problem is that the Lindens appear to be showing the average price per meter by mixing in both island parcels for sale and mainland parcels for sale. We need to get clarity on that, but it does appear that&#039;s what they&#039;re doing. Those parcels are all in the for-sale list, so like them or not, consider them really &quot;for sale&quot; or not, they are in the for sale list and hence likely the source for the data.

The Lindens continue to print land for one simple reason: they need money. People pay money for auction sims -- sometimes double or triple what they pay for islands. So it&#039;s ready cash. They have a cover story up that they print land based on &quot;demand,&quot; that is, number of premium accounts. All we need to do to see that is not true is note that...the number of premium accounts are going down, but the number of sims being printed -- and owned by somebody (land flippers) -- is going up.

Does that mean that more land owners on the mainland own more land? Perhaps compared to a year ago, the per-person amount is higher, but given that the number of premiums is dropping AND the number of parcels for sale is increasing, we merely have a lot of flippers.

People hate flippers; they are a necessary part of the economy, however. What we&#039;re about to see is a lot of flippers bail out. I&#039;ve been noting more Governor-Linden land seized again lately, and not being immediately hurried into auction but just left in &#039;maintenance&#039; -- anecdotally. Have to study it more to see if this is a trend.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khamon, no, the quote is still wrong. One problem is that the Lindens appear to be showing the average price per meter by mixing in both island parcels for sale and mainland parcels for sale. We need to get clarity on that, but it does appear that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing. Those parcels are all in the for-sale list, so like them or not, consider them really &#8220;for sale&#8221; or not, they are in the for sale list and hence likely the source for the data.</p>
<p>The Lindens continue to print land for one simple reason: they need money. People pay money for auction sims &#8212; sometimes double or triple what they pay for islands. So it&#8217;s ready cash. They have a cover story up that they print land based on &#8220;demand,&#8221; that is, number of premium accounts. All we need to do to see that is not true is note that&#8230;the number of premium accounts are going down, but the number of sims being printed &#8212; and owned by somebody (land flippers) &#8212; is going up.</p>
<p>Does that mean that more land owners on the mainland own more land? Perhaps compared to a year ago, the per-person amount is higher, but given that the number of premiums is dropping AND the number of parcels for sale is increasing, we merely have a lot of flippers.</p>
<p>People hate flippers; they are a necessary part of the economy, however. What we&#8217;re about to see is a lot of flippers bail out. I&#8217;ve been noting more Governor-Linden land seized again lately, and not being immediately hurried into auction but just left in &#8216;maintenance&#8217; &#8212; anecdotally. Have to study it more to see if this is a trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Khamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&#039;When the percentage of premiums falls, it means the land owners must each own more land. After all, you can&#039;t own land without a premium.&#039;

I got as far as this inaccurate quote before i quit reading. If he/she has a basic fact as this wrong, I can only imagine how wrong the rest of it is. NPI&#039;s can own estate land.&quot; - Joe

The OP was referring to the fact that Linden Lab require premium accounts to own all of the Mainland they print. If the number of premium accounts is declining, and LL are continuing to print Mainland, then the persistent premiums must be owning more land per capita. The only other possibility is that LL are getting stuck with increasing amounts of abandoned land.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;When the percentage of premiums falls, it means the land owners must each own more land. After all, you can&#8217;t own land without a premium.&#8217;</p>
<p>I got as far as this inaccurate quote before i quit reading. If he/she has a basic fact as this wrong, I can only imagine how wrong the rest of it is. NPI&#8217;s can own estate land.&#8221; &#8211; Joe</p>
<p>The OP was referring to the fact that Linden Lab require premium accounts to own all of the Mainland they print. If the number of premium accounts is declining, and LL are continuing to print Mainland, then the persistent premiums must be owning more land per capita. The only other possibility is that LL are getting stuck with increasing amounts of abandoned land.</p>
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