Comments on: When the Music Stops, Or When the Griefers Go Live http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Busta McNutter http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25305 Busta McNutter Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:26:55 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25305 All you have to do is rez 8 couches, in the same spot, all physical, to crash any sim. its easy, take 2 moments to 'create' from scratch. The solution is very simple. If Phsyics starts to get 'omg' make everything phantom that is involved in the 'omg' ing how hard can that be All you have to do is rez 8 couches, in the same spot, all physical, to crash any sim.

its easy, take 2 moments to ‘create’ from scratch.

The solution is very simple.

If Phsyics starts to get ‘omg’ make everything phantom that is involved in the ‘omg’ ing

how hard can that be

]]> By: anon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25304 anon Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:17:26 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25304 I was looking for a club to invade, and I stumbled across a club she was playing in... while dancing ham club invasions are usually pretty funny, she was damned good so out of respect for her being one of the few worthwhile things in SL, we just enjoyed the show. Too cool to grief I was looking for a club to invade, and I stumbled across a club she was playing in… while dancing ham club invasions are usually pretty funny, she was damned good so out of respect for her being one of the few worthwhile things in SL, we just enjoyed the show. Too cool to grief

]]> By: dick burns http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25303 dick burns Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:33:53 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25303 kim.. i have inside information that there is a committee of 14 griefers representing the 7 griefer groups in sl. 2 from each clan. this committee is called the "Holy Order of the Taint" and they are currently working on this very idea that you proposed. Apparently they have decided to create "the garden of eden project" in which they sell to the lindens the perfect sim...ungriefable and totally open-scripted. As best as I can tell they are currently looking for volunteers to help them in this project as test subjects for various situations "in-game". any one who has a registered account, or even more preferable a premium account should contact the group in game. "The Holy Order of the Taint" has not released any information as to whether or not Prokofy is part of their group, and we can only speculate at her(his) involvment. kim.. i have inside information that there is a committee of 14 griefers representing the 7 griefer groups in sl. 2 from each clan. this committee is called the “Holy Order of the Taint” and they are currently working on this very idea that you proposed. Apparently they have decided to create “the garden of eden project” in which they sell to the lindens the perfect sim…ungriefable and totally open-scripted.
As best as I can tell they are currently looking for volunteers to help them in this project as test subjects for various situations “in-game”. any one who has a registered account, or even more preferable a premium account should contact the group in game.

“The Holy Order of the Taint” has not released any information as to whether or not Prokofy is part of their group, and we can only speculate at her(his) involvment.

]]> By: Kim Seifert http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25302 Kim Seifert Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:19:48 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25302 I honestly don't think taking away free accounts will stop the griefing, and I believe to consider that is a very bad idea. Griefers will find another way around, just as they did when LL started banning IPs. Apparently a new client was developed to circumvent that. I can just see the lot of them sitting there rubbing their hands together, eyes filled with glee thinking "Ya buddy! They think they're gonna stop us with 'no free accounts,' we'll show them!" If the griefers are to be believed, then they are doing this because they are bored and want to be entertained. Kinda makes me think about my children on summer break...always naggin me to let them do something cuz they are bored. Only thing that quiets them is giving them housework to do. That stops them in their tracks every time. Lol...well, since my SL house pretty much cleans itself, that won't work (<---bad joke I know). But what about this? Only the best of all griefers could come up with an "ungriefable venue." All others are just wannabe griefers. So I'll put that challenge out there. Who is "smart" enough to come up with an impenetrable venue that allows scripts, as well as being open to the public but cannot be griefed? Any takers? I honestly don’t think taking away free accounts will stop the griefing, and I believe to consider that is a very bad idea. Griefers will find another way around, just as they did when LL started banning IPs. Apparently a new client was developed to circumvent that. I can just see the lot of them sitting there rubbing their hands together, eyes filled with glee thinking “Ya buddy! They think they’re gonna stop us with ‘no free accounts,’ we’ll show them!” If the griefers are to be believed, then they are doing this because they are bored and want to be entertained. Kinda makes me think about my children on summer break…always naggin me to let them do something cuz they are bored. Only thing that quiets them is giving them housework to do. That stops them in their tracks every time. Lol…well, since my SL house pretty much cleans itself, that won’t work (<—bad joke I know). But what about this? Only the best of all griefers could come up with an “ungriefable venue.” All others are just wannabe griefers. So I’ll put that challenge out there. Who is “smart” enough to come up with an impenetrable venue that allows scripts, as well as being open to the public but cannot be griefed? Any takers?

]]> By: Cocoanut Koala http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25301 Cocoanut Koala Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:48:12 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25301 "Coco, shall we take a step into what is and not what you wish to be?" Don't believe I ever said I thought people should be charged to be in SL. coco “Coco, shall we take a step into what is and not what you wish to be?”

Don’t believe I ever said I thought people should be charged to be in SL.

coco

]]> By: Candy Lemmon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25300 Candy Lemmon Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:46:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25300 Coco-- Your reading comprehension is poor. If you can't see the link between this article and prejudice after all that, I can't help you. Coco–

Your reading comprehension is poor. If you can’t see the link between this article and prejudice after all that, I can’t help you.

]]> By: Reality http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25299 Reality Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:26:33 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25299 Coco, shall we take a step into what <b>is</b> and not what you <b>wish to be</b>? Charging for access to Second Life <b>would</b> prevent quite a few people (those not willing to risk <b>any</b> money on this venture for example) from being able to see what it is like and decide if it would really be worth it. Before you even bring it up - the same can be said for any sort of trial account as well. There are quite a few productive and helpful people in Second Life that would not be there right now if they saw they had to pay to use the service. <b>That</b> is the reality Coco. Requiring them to pay - and leave if they refuse - <b>does</b> amount to banning them. Coco, shall we take a step into what is and not what you wish to be?

Charging for access to Second Life would prevent quite a few people (those not willing to risk any money on this venture for example) from being able to see what it is like and decide if it would really be worth it. Before you even bring it up – the same can be said for any sort of trial account as well.

There are quite a few productive and helpful people in Second Life that would not be there right now if they saw they had to pay to use the service.

That is the reality Coco. Requiring them to pay – and leave if they refuse – does amount to banning them.

]]> By: Brown Shower http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25298 Brown Shower Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:10:41 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25298 You cant charge for SL, because they would keep the hardcore users in and keep the normal people out. Nobody is going to pay for SL without trying it and enjoying it, it has a low player rentention to begin with, people try it out and realize its mostly perverts and overweight people trying to live like movie stars or as beautiful people. The only way for LL to stop griefing is to stop self replicating scripts all together and In whistled for a cab and when i came near, The license plate said 'Fresh',And had dice in the mirror, If anything i could say that this cab was rare But I thought 'Nah, forget it - Yo, home to Bel-Air!' Ipulled up to the house at bout seven or eight,I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo home, smell ya later!' I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there! To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air! You cant charge for SL, because they would keep the hardcore users in and keep the normal people out.

Nobody is going to pay for SL without trying it and enjoying it, it has a low player rentention to begin with, people try it out and realize its mostly perverts and overweight people trying to live like movie stars or as beautiful people.

The only way for LL to stop griefing is to stop self replicating scripts all together and In whistled for a cab and when i came near,
The license plate said ‘Fresh’,And had dice in the mirror,
If anything i could say that this cab was rare But I thought
‘Nah, forget it – Yo, home to Bel-Air!’

Ipulled up to the house at bout seven or eight,I yelled to the cabbie ‘Yo home, smell ya later!’ I looked at my kingdom,
I was finally there! To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air!

]]> By: Cocoanut Koala http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25297 Cocoanut Koala Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:00:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25297 I was referring to my own post as off-topic, branching off as it did from your post, rather than commenting on the article itself; not yours. Charging for access to Second Life would not necessarily be to get rid of griefers, nor would it amount to banning anyone, innocent or not. It wouldn't translate into prejudice in SL any more than it translates into prejudice anywhere else. coco I was referring to my own post as off-topic, branching off as it did from your post, rather than commenting on the article itself; not yours.

Charging for access to Second Life would not necessarily be to get rid of griefers, nor would it amount to banning anyone, innocent or not.

It wouldn’t translate into prejudice in SL any more than it translates into prejudice anywhere else.

coco

]]> By: Candy Lemmon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/07/when-the-music.html/comment-page-2#comment-25296 Candy Lemmon Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:12:16 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1180#comment-25296 Coco-- "Well, I said nothing about "because of an assumption that those who are nonpaying are more likely to be griefers." Nor did I say anything about "banning the innocent because of a guilty few." Charging for something has nothing to do with prejudice." Which, I'm assuming, is why you referred to my initial criticism of this article as "off-topic". One of the points this article is adamant about is the banning of - CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO ALL - free accounts, and how that suppposedly translates into griefer control, and resident protection. Saying that charging a fee for something doesn't translate into prejudice would be true almost everywhere - but NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS ARTICLE. If you have something to say after this, I would seriously recommend you re-read the post you're commenting on. Coco–

“Well, I said nothing about “because of an assumption that those who are nonpaying are more likely to be griefers.”

Nor did I say anything about “banning the innocent because of a guilty few.”

Charging for something has nothing to do with prejudice.”

Which, I’m assuming, is why you referred to my initial criticism of this article as “off-topic”. One of the points this article is adamant about is the banning of – CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO ALL – free accounts, and how that suppposedly translates into griefer control, and resident protection.

Saying that charging a fee for something doesn’t translate into prejudice would be true almost everywhere – but NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS ARTICLE. If you have something to say after this, I would seriously recommend you re-read the post you’re commenting on.

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