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		<title>By: Mhaijik</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22907</link>
		<dc:creator>Mhaijik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The person that interviewed me was the Harvard student associate of the ABC news guy. What I said as well, was taken out of context in the sense that he did not include the rest of my sentence which explained what I meant.  He did correctly quote me, I will give him credit- that I did NOT say it was just like a party in &#039;Second Life&#039;. I specifically just said &#039;an online party&#039; as I inhabit many online worlds.
A group of us had actually spent a lot of the 2 days with the ABC news guy, not the student, and had spoken with him at great length about presenting the convention truthfully and not sensationalizing it.
The convention was a great 2 full days of educational and fun panel discussions in the tracks, business, education, social, and machinima. I gathered a wealth of information and met many wonderful people.
I guess news is only news when it creates a lot of attention - else why write it up......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person that interviewed me was the Harvard student associate of the ABC news guy. What I said as well, was taken out of context in the sense that he did not include the rest of my sentence which explained what I meant.  He did correctly quote me, I will give him credit- that I did NOT say it was just like a party in &#8216;Second Life&#8217;. I specifically just said &#8216;an online party&#8217; as I inhabit many online worlds.<br />
A group of us had actually spent a lot of the 2 days with the ABC news guy, not the student, and had spoken with him at great length about presenting the convention truthfully and not sensationalizing it.<br />
The convention was a great 2 full days of educational and fun panel discussions in the tracks, business, education, social, and machinima. I gathered a wealth of information and met many wonderful people.<br />
I guess news is only news when it creates a lot of attention &#8211; else why write it up&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gando</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22906</link>
		<dc:creator>Gando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the SLCC, and we have no one to blame but the media for the coverage seen here. All of the sessions I attended were eye opening and well put together. I heard a lot of the same from others. I also met a lot of great people, heard a lot of amazing ideas, and had fantastic discussions on all sorts of SL topics. It would have been great to see the focus of big media &quot;journalists&quot; be on the hard work presented in the sessions. Oh well.

The Ball was a great deal of fun. I wore mostly the same thing I did for the whole conference (a kilt and tee-shirt), so I fit in pretty well between the dressed in costume, and those who were not dressed in costume. There was nothing terribly surprising to me, I&#039;ve been to more bawdy Renaissance Faires. People need to get over sex.

I turned down all media interviews when at SLCC, mostly because I figured they were just out to interview some &quot;weirdo&quot; in a kilt. I new that I was unprepared and would certainly be taken out of context, if what I said even had a chance of getting out into the media world.

Just say no. Until the media and their &quot;journalists&quot; pull their collective money grubbing heads out of their asses, just tell them to take a hike.

&quot;Quote me as saying I was misquoted.&quot; ~  Groucho Marx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the SLCC, and we have no one to blame but the media for the coverage seen here. All of the sessions I attended were eye opening and well put together. I heard a lot of the same from others. I also met a lot of great people, heard a lot of amazing ideas, and had fantastic discussions on all sorts of SL topics. It would have been great to see the focus of big media &#8220;journalists&#8221; be on the hard work presented in the sessions. Oh well.</p>
<p>The Ball was a great deal of fun. I wore mostly the same thing I did for the whole conference (a kilt and tee-shirt), so I fit in pretty well between the dressed in costume, and those who were not dressed in costume. There was nothing terribly surprising to me, I&#8217;ve been to more bawdy Renaissance Faires. People need to get over sex.</p>
<p>I turned down all media interviews when at SLCC, mostly because I figured they were just out to interview some &#8220;weirdo&#8221; in a kilt. I new that I was unprepared and would certainly be taken out of context, if what I said even had a chance of getting out into the media world.</p>
<p>Just say no. Until the media and their &#8220;journalists&#8221; pull their collective money grubbing heads out of their asses, just tell them to take a hike.</p>
<p>&#8220;Quote me as saying I was misquoted.&#8221; ~  Groucho Marx</p>
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		<title>By: FlipperPA Peregrine</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22905</link>
		<dc:creator>FlipperPA Peregrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uri: I should have noted, my snarky comments were aimed squarely at Tenshi&#039;s &quot;zOMG I&#039;M SO EMBARRASSED FOR THE CHILDREN&quot; and not at the article. :) We all know Tenshi has done nothing but bring pride and valor to the Herald and Second Life as a whole. ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri: I should have noted, my snarky comments were aimed squarely at Tenshi&#8217;s &#8220;zOMG I&#8217;M SO EMBARRASSED FOR THE CHILDREN&#8221; and not at the article. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  We all know Tenshi has done nothing but bring pride and valor to the Herald and Second Life as a whole. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Giff Constable</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22904</link>
		<dc:creator>Giff Constable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That comment of mine in ABC was erroneous -- thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt Uri.  How Cocoa could jump to her conclusion when I&#039;m clearly a believer in this space and platform is beyond me.

I did not discourage the friend in question, but rather encouraged him to try SL.  However, after he tried it, he was confused and left unsure why and how he would use the service.  I actually know quite a few people like this.

As I&#039;ve written on my blog, I think SL adoption will be purpose-driven.  I don&#039;t think it is mainstream yet, evidenced by the high churn rate and the constant &quot;what do I do?&quot; question.

I&#039;m not fussed if someone isn&#039;t ready for Second Life, because it probably means that Second Life isn&#039;t ready for them.  All in good time.  I view the technology and market as very early, but none of this makes me question the fundamentals of this space.

I&#039;m not surprised the journalist saw this all as a bit strange, and of course he was going to focus in on the titillating activities of the masquerade ball.  Surprise surprise surprise.

more of my thoughts (from a few days ago) here: http://blogs.electricsheepcompany.com/giff/?p=440

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comment of mine in ABC was erroneous &#8212; thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt Uri.  How Cocoa could jump to her conclusion when I&#8217;m clearly a believer in this space and platform is beyond me.</p>
<p>I did not discourage the friend in question, but rather encouraged him to try SL.  However, after he tried it, he was confused and left unsure why and how he would use the service.  I actually know quite a few people like this.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written on my blog, I think SL adoption will be purpose-driven.  I don&#8217;t think it is mainstream yet, evidenced by the high churn rate and the constant &#8220;what do I do?&#8221; question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not fussed if someone isn&#8217;t ready for Second Life, because it probably means that Second Life isn&#8217;t ready for them.  All in good time.  I view the technology and market as very early, but none of this makes me question the fundamentals of this space.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised the journalist saw this all as a bit strange, and of course he was going to focus in on the titillating activities of the masquerade ball.  Surprise surprise surprise.</p>
<p>more of my thoughts (from a few days ago) here: <a href="http://blogs.electricsheepcompany.com/giff/?p=440" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.electricsheepcompany.com/giff/?p=440</a></p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22903</link>
		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, why should anyone CARE about the way the media shows SL?

If anything, it will keep a lot of people OUT, that shouldn&#039;t be in SL in the first place. Like my mom. Wouldn&#039;t want her to know all the things I get up to in SL, and if she sees this report, she&#039;ll just go back to playing Bejeweled. *wo-hoo :D*

Seriously tho.
Everyone should be doing what they enjoy, and not care what others, especially others that don&#039;t matter in any way (like the media), think about it.

Just shrug it off, and go back to your Second Life... Wether that involves building a chapel and giving virtual sermons (spelling? hell if I know), shooting at people in combat sims, or getting your kink on leashed to a pole in the middle of a BDSM sim for everyone to use.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, why should anyone CARE about the way the media shows SL?</p>
<p>If anything, it will keep a lot of people OUT, that shouldn&#8217;t be in SL in the first place. Like my mom. Wouldn&#8217;t want her to know all the things I get up to in SL, and if she sees this report, she&#8217;ll just go back to playing Bejeweled. *wo-hoo <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> *</p>
<p>Seriously tho.<br />
Everyone should be doing what they enjoy, and not care what others, especially others that don&#8217;t matter in any way (like the media), think about it.</p>
<p>Just shrug it off, and go back to your Second Life&#8230; Wether that involves building a chapel and giving virtual sermons (spelling? hell if I know), shooting at people in combat sims, or getting your kink on leashed to a pole in the middle of a BDSM sim for everyone to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Lulz Vigilante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Second Lulz Vigilante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@das_fuhrer

&quot;Yes, second life is gross. This article is very well written and well thought out.

No shame on anyone there, that IS second life.

Fucking gross.&quot;

You obviously haven&#039;t seen the rest of the internet then...or RL for that matter. But hey, enjoy being sheltered! lol!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@das_fuhrer</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, second life is gross. This article is very well written and well thought out.</p>
<p>No shame on anyone there, that IS second life.</p>
<p>Fucking gross.&#8221;</p>
<p>You obviously haven&#8217;t seen the rest of the internet then&#8230;or RL for that matter. But hey, enjoy being sheltered! lol!</p>
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		<title>By: Xerses Goff</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22901</link>
		<dc:creator>Xerses Goff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually stopped and talked to the reporter on the way in and was quoted in the article.

I went from an elf (which is how I was dressed), who was going to a mascarade ball and talking about how SL could help people who might not otherwise be comfortable starting business or with handicaps;  to being portrayed in the article as a pirate in black and gold trimmed costume going to a fetish party looking for a place where people could explore things they were not comfortable with in first life.

If that was not twisting the facts to support a point of view, I don&#039;t know what is. ABCnews.com had a skewed point of view going into this series.

There were a few people dressed more exotically, though the majority were not dressed up at all.  This was much calmer and less unusual than other parties happening on college campuses and other places around the world.  SL has its folks looking for sex and more bizarre behavior, in that way it mirrors the web and RL.  But most there were not looking for that, at least not publicly.

But I guess that doesn&#039;t sell papers or attract web hits.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually stopped and talked to the reporter on the way in and was quoted in the article.</p>
<p>I went from an elf (which is how I was dressed), who was going to a mascarade ball and talking about how SL could help people who might not otherwise be comfortable starting business or with handicaps;  to being portrayed in the article as a pirate in black and gold trimmed costume going to a fetish party looking for a place where people could explore things they were not comfortable with in first life.</p>
<p>If that was not twisting the facts to support a point of view, I don&#8217;t know what is. ABCnews.com had a skewed point of view going into this series.</p>
<p>There were a few people dressed more exotically, though the majority were not dressed up at all.  This was much calmer and less unusual than other parties happening on college campuses and other places around the world.  SL has its folks looking for sex and more bizarre behavior, in that way it mirrors the web and RL.  But most there were not looking for that, at least not publicly.</p>
<p>But I guess that doesn&#8217;t sell papers or attract web hits.</p>
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		<title>By: Victorria Paine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victorria Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see the Herald &quot;evangelizing&quot; kink.  Reporting on something is nogt evangelizing, and to be honest, kink is so common in SL that to *not* report on it would be a calculated slant, really.

There isn&#039;t much BDSM &quot;evangelization&quot; that goes on.  People who are curious (and there are a lot of those) come and see ... and if they like it, they stay.  If they don&#039;t, they leave.  It&#039;s very straightforward, really, like anyplace else on the grid.  The difference is that there are a *lot* of people who find SL a &quot;safe&quot; place to explore these kinds of fantasies in a way that they would never do in the material world for varying reasons.  What that means is that there are more people like this than the &quot;why can&#039;t we just be normal&quot; people like to think, and that, rather to the contrary, being into BDSM, or at least curious about it, isn&#039;t &quot;freaky&quot; at all, but is quite common.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see the Herald &#8220;evangelizing&#8221; kink.  Reporting on something is nogt evangelizing, and to be honest, kink is so common in SL that to *not* report on it would be a calculated slant, really.</p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t much BDSM &#8220;evangelization&#8221; that goes on.  People who are curious (and there are a lot of those) come and see &#8230; and if they like it, they stay.  If they don&#8217;t, they leave.  It&#8217;s very straightforward, really, like anyplace else on the grid.  The difference is that there are a *lot* of people who find SL a &#8220;safe&#8221; place to explore these kinds of fantasies in a way that they would never do in the material world for varying reasons.  What that means is that there are more people like this than the &#8220;why can&#8217;t we just be normal&#8221; people like to think, and that, rather to the contrary, being into BDSM, or at least curious about it, isn&#8217;t &#8220;freaky&#8221; at all, but is quite common.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgana Fillion</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22899</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgana Fillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not hiding it is &#039;evangelism&#039;?  I don&#039;t think anyone in the kink world wants to recruit anyone who isn&#039;t interested.  Makes for very clumsy, awkward encounters.

Staying with your faulty comparison, there is no BDSM beancounter making the price of admission into the In-club being how many souls you drag in with you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not hiding it is &#8216;evangelism&#8217;?  I don&#8217;t think anyone in the kink world wants to recruit anyone who isn&#8217;t interested.  Makes for very clumsy, awkward encounters.</p>
<p>Staying with your faulty comparison, there is no BDSM beancounter making the price of admission into the In-club being how many souls you drag in with you.</p>
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		<title>By: urizenus</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/slcc-participan.html/comment-page-1#comment-22898</link>
		<dc:creator>urizenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis, we aren&#039;t evangelizing anything.  We are just showing people what is going on.  You can stick your head in the sand if you want (which you have been doing since your TSO days) but don&#039;t ask the rest of us to do it. Nor is our emphasis wrong. About a third of our stories are about SL kink, which is pretty close to the % of SL activity that *is* kink by my reconning and by the Lindens&#039; own numbers.

We just tell it like it is.  Don&#039;t blame us if your world is a kinked out phreaked out scene.  If you don&#039;t like it, waddle on over to Club Penguin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis, we aren&#8217;t evangelizing anything.  We are just showing people what is going on.  You can stick your head in the sand if you want (which you have been doing since your TSO days) but don&#8217;t ask the rest of us to do it. Nor is our emphasis wrong. About a third of our stories are about SL kink, which is pretty close to the % of SL activity that *is* kink by my reconning and by the Lindens&#8217; own numbers.</p>
<p>We just tell it like it is.  Don&#8217;t blame us if your world is a kinked out phreaked out scene.  If you don&#8217;t like it, waddle on over to Club Penguin.</p>
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