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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23477</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t imagine why the post, which was a few lines, and merely said something about how, duh, haven&#039;t you ever heard of &quot;patent pending&quot; was removed. The perlustrators must have itchy fingers.

And again, there is nothing &quot;libelous&quot; in any remark I&#039;ve made here, on my blog, or anywhere. I don&#039;t &quot;wiggle&quot; out of anything. I&#039;m happy to see you in court -- real court, not fake court. And I don&#039;t at all mind being challenged, but pick a good case -- this isn&#039;t one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t imagine why the post, which was a few lines, and merely said something about how, duh, haven&#8217;t you ever heard of &#8220;patent pending&#8221; was removed. The perlustrators must have itchy fingers.</p>
<p>And again, there is nothing &#8220;libelous&#8221; in any remark I&#8217;ve made here, on my blog, or anywhere. I don&#8217;t &#8220;wiggle&#8221; out of anything. I&#8217;m happy to see you in court &#8212; real court, not fake court. And I don&#8217;t at all mind being challenged, but pick a good case &#8212; this isn&#8217;t one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocoanut Koala</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23476</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocoanut Koala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats FRICKIN AMAZING is that these posts are being REMOVED!!!!

Uri, where are you, dead?  And are you turning over in your GRAVE????

coco
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats FRICKIN AMAZING is that these posts are being REMOVED!!!!</p>
<p>Uri, where are you, dead?  And are you turning over in your GRAVE????</p>
<p>coco</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing Prok, I still stand by the statements that I made on your blog based on the things you said on your blog.  My claim of libel is not based on things that were said here, nor on your failed methods of trying to wiggle out of it.  Also, you were the one who brought up the libel accusation without bringing up all the facts.  So I don&#039;t have a guilty conscience, its just that you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to make statements without basis without being challenged on them.

And the claim wasn&#039;t about getting you to stop talking in general, it was to get you to start being more responsible with what you say.  You make statements all the time without basis and when people call you on it, you cry foul.

And again, your lame attempts of finding a conspiracy against you everywhere fails again here.  I responded to a *removed* post.  That means it was posted, where I saw it and responded to it, and then your post was removed.  Amazing how the world works.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing Prok, I still stand by the statements that I made on your blog based on the things you said on your blog.  My claim of libel is not based on things that were said here, nor on your failed methods of trying to wiggle out of it.  Also, you were the one who brought up the libel accusation without bringing up all the facts.  So I don&#8217;t have a guilty conscience, its just that you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to make statements without basis without being challenged on them.</p>
<p>And the claim wasn&#8217;t about getting you to stop talking in general, it was to get you to start being more responsible with what you say.  You make statements all the time without basis and when people call you on it, you cry foul.</p>
<p>And again, your lame attempts of finding a conspiracy against you everywhere fails again here.  I responded to a *removed* post.  That means it was posted, where I saw it and responded to it, and then your post was removed.  Amazing how the world works.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23474</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica, stop your tantruming, it&#039;s not attractive.

Yes, I come here to respond to attacks. If I have something really important to say on some other topic, I&#039;ll say that, too, but I don&#039;t feel that the Herald is my &quot;regular place&quot; or &quot;home&quot; given the really awesome nastiness that both editors and readers have subjected me to.

If you&#039;re keeping literalist gotcha score and saying, oh, but YOU SAID you were only going to come to answer attacks, and here you are posting on something else, nyah, nyah, then let me virtually slap you in the face for that sort of insolent assholery. If that&#039;s all you can do, you deserve a slap. People who are TOTALLY out of answers and alibis and intelligent responses do shit like say, BUT YOU SAID YOU WOULD ONLY BLAH BLAH. It&#039;s really a sign of terribly impoverished mentation.

I didn&#039;t say you were engaging in illegal activity. That&#039;s pretty retarded. There&#039;s nothing whatsoever saying that. I&#039;ve been over this a number of times, so your really redundant return to it only makes you look bad -- and suffering from a guilty conscience.

It doesn&#039;t require *me* to say that you engaged in prostitution; you wrote it yourself. Is there something shameful in prostitution? Well, it&#039;s degrading. And women often get out of it when they find something more economically viable. Of course, working at Rite-Aid is degrading, too, and I&#039;ve done that. So it&#039;s all relative.

I raised the question as to whether in fact escorting is proved as legal. It isn&#039;t, really PROVED because it&#039;s vulnerable to attack by regulators who may merely pounce on something like the age issue to try to get SL to shut it down for moral reasons. Proof that is *isn&#039;t* illegal is being offered. Proof that it is and will remain legal, given the vulnerability of LL now to lawsuits by all sorts of forces, is not really supplied.

Threatening with libel suits is threatening with libel suits. It&#039;s infantile. Adding later &quot;if I link my RL name&quot; or attempting to try to get a kangaroo court going in SL with an SL is about as lame and pathetic as it gets.

Libel of fictional characters in SL hardly seems to rise to any RL test of libel. You&#039;re invoking libel, like Benjamin Duranske does, as an attempt to shut up someone criticising you. I don&#039;t feed that sort of bad behaviour by showing up to kangaraoo courts in Second Life.

I indeed DID have a reply, that evidently you haven&#039;t been able to comprehend. Indeed it IS relevant to tell Patent Attorney to stop being a smug gotcha gamer, as we all know patents take time, and what he&#039;s not willing to concede is that &#039;patent pending&#039; is all you need.

Jessica, go work out all your parental issues on your RL parents, please, it&#039;s unseemly to keep being a bitch on forums.

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As anyone can see, my post about the patents has simply been removed; I can&#039;t imagine why. I thought Jessica might have the option to see it early (any one even with only drafting powers could in fact). So she&#039;s responding to a *removed post* as the record here clearly shows ROFL.

I don&#039;t know why Uri doesn&#039;t get exercised about Pixeleen&#039;s removal of posts. And this post merely said something about &quot;patent pending&quot; being a way in which people try to pwn others.

Again, there&#039;d be no need to appear before any &quot;third party neutral choice&quot; in SL, when even any half-brain-dead reader of these posts can see that Jessica is not accused in the way she hallucinates. She infers and interpolates in an accusation, no doubt due to a troubled conscience.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica, stop your tantruming, it&#8217;s not attractive.</p>
<p>Yes, I come here to respond to attacks. If I have something really important to say on some other topic, I&#8217;ll say that, too, but I don&#8217;t feel that the Herald is my &#8220;regular place&#8221; or &#8220;home&#8221; given the really awesome nastiness that both editors and readers have subjected me to.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re keeping literalist gotcha score and saying, oh, but YOU SAID you were only going to come to answer attacks, and here you are posting on something else, nyah, nyah, then let me virtually slap you in the face for that sort of insolent assholery. If that&#8217;s all you can do, you deserve a slap. People who are TOTALLY out of answers and alibis and intelligent responses do shit like say, BUT YOU SAID YOU WOULD ONLY BLAH BLAH. It&#8217;s really a sign of terribly impoverished mentation.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say you were engaging in illegal activity. That&#8217;s pretty retarded. There&#8217;s nothing whatsoever saying that. I&#8217;ve been over this a number of times, so your really redundant return to it only makes you look bad &#8212; and suffering from a guilty conscience.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t require *me* to say that you engaged in prostitution; you wrote it yourself. Is there something shameful in prostitution? Well, it&#8217;s degrading. And women often get out of it when they find something more economically viable. Of course, working at Rite-Aid is degrading, too, and I&#8217;ve done that. So it&#8217;s all relative.</p>
<p>I raised the question as to whether in fact escorting is proved as legal. It isn&#8217;t, really PROVED because it&#8217;s vulnerable to attack by regulators who may merely pounce on something like the age issue to try to get SL to shut it down for moral reasons. Proof that is *isn&#8217;t* illegal is being offered. Proof that it is and will remain legal, given the vulnerability of LL now to lawsuits by all sorts of forces, is not really supplied.</p>
<p>Threatening with libel suits is threatening with libel suits. It&#8217;s infantile. Adding later &#8220;if I link my RL name&#8221; or attempting to try to get a kangaroo court going in SL with an SL is about as lame and pathetic as it gets.</p>
<p>Libel of fictional characters in SL hardly seems to rise to any RL test of libel. You&#8217;re invoking libel, like Benjamin Duranske does, as an attempt to shut up someone criticising you. I don&#8217;t feed that sort of bad behaviour by showing up to kangaraoo courts in Second Life.</p>
<p>I indeed DID have a reply, that evidently you haven&#8217;t been able to comprehend. Indeed it IS relevant to tell Patent Attorney to stop being a smug gotcha gamer, as we all know patents take time, and what he&#8217;s not willing to concede is that &#8216;patent pending&#8217; is all you need.</p>
<p>Jessica, go work out all your parental issues on your RL parents, please, it&#8217;s unseemly to keep being a bitch on forums.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>As anyone can see, my post about the patents has simply been removed; I can&#8217;t imagine why. I thought Jessica might have the option to see it early (any one even with only drafting powers could in fact). So she&#8217;s responding to a *removed post* as the record here clearly shows ROFL.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Uri doesn&#8217;t get exercised about Pixeleen&#8217;s removal of posts. And this post merely said something about &#8220;patent pending&#8221; being a way in which people try to pwn others.</p>
<p>Again, there&#8217;d be no need to appear before any &#8220;third party neutral choice&#8221; in SL, when even any half-brain-dead reader of these posts can see that Jessica is not accused in the way she hallucinates. She infers and interpolates in an accusation, no doubt due to a troubled conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm Prok, didn&#039;t you say that you *did* have to come here in order to respond to attacks? That these attacks were the reason why you came to post on the Herald? That the &quot;Voice of Pixeleen&quot; was so offensive that you devoted an inordinate amount of space on your blog attacking her?

And one way you are attacking her now, is suggesting that I responded to your post in a manner other than seeing it posted on the Herald in the normal course of business.  Which I did.  I have no special access to this web page as a freelancer.

You also make it sound like I&#039;m trying to threaten you with a libel suit in order to pwn you.  You may not recall, I said that if my RL identity was linked with my SL one, then I would sue you for libel because you would have defamed me, and not my pseudonym.  The words that you posted, stating that I was engaged in illegal activity and prostitution, without proof of either, is libel per se.  I don&#039;t have to show damages.  I don&#039;t have to go through the public figure analysis.  Even though you have stated that &quot;realifism&quot; is a bad thing, you don&#039;t seem to want to pwn me and show how little I know about the law, and how much you know, by appearing before a third party neutral of *your* choice in SL.

And if I wanted to play &quot;gotcha&quot; like you seem to enjoy, why would I chose a situation where your response to Patent Attorney didnt&#039; have anything to do with what was being said.  I noticed you had no reply to what I said based on patent attorney&#039;s comment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm Prok, didn&#8217;t you say that you *did* have to come here in order to respond to attacks? That these attacks were the reason why you came to post on the Herald? That the &#8220;Voice of Pixeleen&#8221; was so offensive that you devoted an inordinate amount of space on your blog attacking her?</p>
<p>And one way you are attacking her now, is suggesting that I responded to your post in a manner other than seeing it posted on the Herald in the normal course of business.  Which I did.  I have no special access to this web page as a freelancer.</p>
<p>You also make it sound like I&#8217;m trying to threaten you with a libel suit in order to pwn you.  You may not recall, I said that if my RL identity was linked with my SL one, then I would sue you for libel because you would have defamed me, and not my pseudonym.  The words that you posted, stating that I was engaged in illegal activity and prostitution, without proof of either, is libel per se.  I don&#8217;t have to show damages.  I don&#8217;t have to go through the public figure analysis.  Even though you have stated that &#8220;realifism&#8221; is a bad thing, you don&#8217;t seem to want to pwn me and show how little I know about the law, and how much you know, by appearing before a third party neutral of *your* choice in SL.</p>
<p>And if I wanted to play &#8220;gotcha&#8221; like you seem to enjoy, why would I chose a situation where your response to Patent Attorney didnt&#8217; have anything to do with what was being said.  I noticed you had no reply to what I said based on patent attorney&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23472</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny how Jessica can be responding to a post of mine here before it&#039;s actually posted, that only can mean one thing: she&#039;s able to look into the comments even on posts she didn&#039;t post. Now that&#039;s interesting, eh?

Patent Pending&#039;s remark is nullified and voided by my comment that &quot;patending pending&quot; is all anyone needs to do their pawning, as FlipperPAY and anyone else can tell you. If it takes 7-12 whatever years, what of it? It&#039;s pending. And having that fact made known is a chilling factor all its own. We all knew that the minute someone said the file date seemed to be aging, some other smartass would come up and smugly explain that patents typically take longer, something we are long familiar with, from other gleeful-gotcha Herald studies. We waited five minutes, checked our watches, and yes, someone came to ankle-bite about patents. Yawn.

The concept that someone has to &quot;say something against me&quot; for me to respond must be rooted in a literalist notion that I will only come here to respond to attacks -- this is the little baby gotcha game that FlipperPAY plays on me at the SC, imagining that he is really brilliant and clever, although of course he looks like a total ass.

However, this gives me an idea. Rather than just come here to respond to attacks, or post links to my blog to shamelessly drive traffic to my blog if I have something really important to say in response to articles here (I&#039;m going to get as cynical and blatant as the Herald, watch):

http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2007/08/linden-lab-is-a.html

...what I think I will do is becoming a professional ankle-biter like the other people in the Herald comments.

Let&#039;s see how Pixeleen likes it when someone professionally ankle-bites the reporters she *does* like and fawns over -- like Jessica -- and see if she&#039;s willing to stand up for her reporters *then* -- and not only pre-emptively comment before a comment has gone in (or has it been deleted?) but also write editorials. What will it take?! I&#039;ve had such long practice fighting *off* anklebiters that it shouldn&#039;t be too much trouble *becoming* one.

So let me start my ankle-biting career by saying, no, it&#039;s not all lawyers I don&#039;t like, it&#039;s just those who are particularly arrogant assholes and who actually have nothing really that intelligent to say at the end of the day. Like Jessica. Who hasn&#039;t passed the bar, has no RL legal experience, but imagines that she pwns everybody, and if they object, that she can happily threaten them with libel suits -- that she imagines she&#039;ll get tried in the virtuality of SL, where she can hang on to her anonymity.

Let&#039;s not be *nice* here -- after all, Uri, Walker, and Pixeleen aren&#039;t *nice*. They are out for themselves, and Jessica fits right in with them. Niceness is as niceness does.

If this sounds petty or spiteful, keep in mind that it perfectly matches the petty and spite of Jessica and her comments, and of course Pixeleen&#039;s overall course. Like draws like.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny how Jessica can be responding to a post of mine here before it&#8217;s actually posted, that only can mean one thing: she&#8217;s able to look into the comments even on posts she didn&#8217;t post. Now that&#8217;s interesting, eh?</p>
<p>Patent Pending&#8217;s remark is nullified and voided by my comment that &#8220;patending pending&#8221; is all anyone needs to do their pawning, as FlipperPAY and anyone else can tell you. If it takes 7-12 whatever years, what of it? It&#8217;s pending. And having that fact made known is a chilling factor all its own. We all knew that the minute someone said the file date seemed to be aging, some other smartass would come up and smugly explain that patents typically take longer, something we are long familiar with, from other gleeful-gotcha Herald studies. We waited five minutes, checked our watches, and yes, someone came to ankle-bite about patents. Yawn.</p>
<p>The concept that someone has to &#8220;say something against me&#8221; for me to respond must be rooted in a literalist notion that I will only come here to respond to attacks &#8212; this is the little baby gotcha game that FlipperPAY plays on me at the SC, imagining that he is really brilliant and clever, although of course he looks like a total ass.</p>
<p>However, this gives me an idea. Rather than just come here to respond to attacks, or post links to my blog to shamelessly drive traffic to my blog if I have something really important to say in response to articles here (I&#8217;m going to get as cynical and blatant as the Herald, watch):</p>
<p><a href="http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2007/08/linden-lab-is-a.html" rel="nofollow">http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2007/08/linden-lab-is-a.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230;what I think I will do is becoming a professional ankle-biter like the other people in the Herald comments.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how Pixeleen likes it when someone professionally ankle-bites the reporters she *does* like and fawns over &#8212; like Jessica &#8212; and see if she&#8217;s willing to stand up for her reporters *then* &#8212; and not only pre-emptively comment before a comment has gone in (or has it been deleted?) but also write editorials. What will it take?! I&#8217;ve had such long practice fighting *off* anklebiters that it shouldn&#8217;t be too much trouble *becoming* one.</p>
<p>So let me start my ankle-biting career by saying, no, it&#8217;s not all lawyers I don&#8217;t like, it&#8217;s just those who are particularly arrogant assholes and who actually have nothing really that intelligent to say at the end of the day. Like Jessica. Who hasn&#8217;t passed the bar, has no RL legal experience, but imagines that she pwns everybody, and if they object, that she can happily threaten them with libel suits &#8212; that she imagines she&#8217;ll get tried in the virtuality of SL, where she can hang on to her anonymity.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not be *nice* here &#8212; after all, Uri, Walker, and Pixeleen aren&#8217;t *nice*. They are out for themselves, and Jessica fits right in with them. Niceness is as niceness does.</p>
<p>If this sounds petty or spiteful, keep in mind that it perfectly matches the petty and spite of Jessica and her comments, and of course Pixeleen&#8217;s overall course. Like draws like.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Prok?  Patent attorney was commenting on how 4 years is not a long time for a patent to be examined in relation to Wowza&#039;s comment about the patent probably being denied based on the file date. Not on any effect of the patent pending process on people&#039;s use.

So is it all lawyers you don&#039;t like?  Cause Patent attorney didn&#039;t say anything against you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Prok?  Patent attorney was commenting on how 4 years is not a long time for a patent to be examined in relation to Wowza&#8217;s comment about the patent probably being denied based on the file date. Not on any effect of the patent pending process on people&#8217;s use.</p>
<p>So is it all lawyers you don&#8217;t like?  Cause Patent attorney didn&#8217;t say anything against you.</p>
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		<title>By: tp</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23470</link>
		<dc:creator>tp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta laugh at that patent, that has been an open source idea for as long as the web.  It&#039;s also been part of the virtual reality experience and gaming already (see rumble sticks for Nintendo 64 and feedback mice-&gt;another fail btw) as far as I know that basically flopped in the later 90&#039;s due to motion sickness during extended romps and overpriced equipment.
Here is a better patent idea...  contact lenses with wireless monitor capabilities.  Nanotech for the win here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta laugh at that patent, that has been an open source idea for as long as the web.  It&#8217;s also been part of the virtual reality experience and gaming already (see rumble sticks for Nintendo 64 and feedback mice->another fail btw) as far as I know that basically flopped in the later 90&#8242;s due to motion sickness during extended romps and overpriced equipment.<br />
Here is a better patent idea&#8230;  contact lenses with wireless monitor capabilities.  Nanotech for the win here.</p>
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		<title>By: Patent Attorney</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23469</link>
		<dc:creator>Patent Attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patents take typically 7 to 12 years to complete

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		<title>By: Wowza</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/08/the-linden-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-23468</link>
		<dc:creator>Wowza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough the first BIG patent was filed in Nov, 2002 ... isn&#039;t that a bit long for it to be granted? - I am thinking that it might have been denied given that the file is over 4 years old .....

And, yeah, it is a typical &quot;poorly planned&quot; Silicon Valley company.
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<p>And, yeah, it is a typical &#8220;poorly planned&#8221; Silicon Valley company.</p>
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