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	<title>Comments on: Second Life Is Indefensible</title>
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		<title>By: Riley Leominster</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22207</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley Leominster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do it for lulz

You do it becaues you have low self esteem IRL.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do it for lulz</p>
<p>You do it becaues you have low self esteem IRL.</p>
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		<title>By: MachineCode</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22206</link>
		<dc:creator>MachineCode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And yet people are against ID verification which would easily get rid of this aspect of things. Sure it wouldn&#039;t solve it but it sure would slow it down some!

You guys just don&#039;t get it. You can either have freedom OR security. Not both!&quot;&quot;

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;

LOL PARADOX. You suggest the restricting ID verification -- which I would never use, griefer or not -- as a requirement. And the quote you used promotes freedom over safety.

Better to die free than live free, eh? lolmartyrs.

There are no politics here. No personal vendettas, no conspiracies or deception. We do not fear those who threaten repercussions, nor seek to confound you failures with elaborate schemes. We wear our intentions on our sleeves. We do it for the lulz.

TWINKIE HOUSE!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yet people are against ID verification which would easily get rid of this aspect of things. Sure it wouldn&#8217;t solve it but it sure would slow it down some!</p>
<p>You guys just don&#8217;t get it. You can either have freedom OR security. Not both!&#8221;"</p>
<p>Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL PARADOX. You suggest the restricting ID verification &#8212; which I would never use, griefer or not &#8212; as a requirement. And the quote you used promotes freedom over safety.</p>
<p>Better to die free than live free, eh? lolmartyrs.</p>
<p>There are no politics here. No personal vendettas, no conspiracies or deception. We do not fear those who threaten repercussions, nor seek to confound you failures with elaborate schemes. We wear our intentions on our sleeves. We do it for the lulz.</p>
<p>TWINKIE HOUSE!</p>
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		<title>By: atxscubasteve22</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22205</link>
		<dc:creator>atxscubasteve22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wherever mooty goes, he unloads a pile of drama, it&#039;d make sense if he were a closet furry
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		<title>By: mootykips</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22204</link>
		<dc:creator>mootykips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That as well. The meme test and the attempt to keep out &quot;spies&quot; was the stupidest thing PN ever did and I regret ever instituting it. It should have stayed open to all ala /i/nsurgency with idiots being fished out via stupid posts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That as well. The meme test and the attempt to keep out &#8220;spies&#8221; was the stupidest thing PN ever did and I regret ever instituting it. It should have stayed open to all ala /i/nsurgency with idiots being fished out via stupid posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Lulz Vigilante</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22203</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Lulz Vigilante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@d3adlyc0d3c

&quot;if you had been present then you would know that PN has shifted focus dramatically to trolling, groups such as &#039;Justice League, Unlimited&#039;, &#039;Jews of Second Life&#039; and others are constantly being lulzmilked with great success.&quot;

But that isn&#039;t what you PN guys like to brag about though, cf. the YouTube link you posted in this thread.

And your newly reorganized recruitment process is still the PN version of &quot;curtains and a dog&quot;. lol!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@d3adlyc0d3c</p>
<p>&#8220;if you had been present then you would know that PN has shifted focus dramatically to trolling, groups such as &#8216;Justice League, Unlimited&#8217;, &#8216;Jews of Second Life&#8217; and others are constantly being lulzmilked with great success.&#8221;</p>
<p>But that isn&#8217;t what you PN guys like to brag about though, cf. the YouTube link you posted in this thread.</p>
<p>And your newly reorganized recruitment process is still the PN version of &#8220;curtains and a dog&#8221;. lol!</p>
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		<title>By: d3adlyc0d3c</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22202</link>
		<dc:creator>d3adlyc0d3c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mooty,
if you had been present then you would know that PN has shifted focus dramatically to trolling, groups such as &#039;Justice League, Unlimited&#039;, &#039;Jews of Second Life&#039; and others are constantly being lulzmilked with great success. We didn&#039;t fucking crash the grid with those lulzturtles either, it wasn&#039;t intended to crash anything. It was intended to be annoying as shit and shout some obscenities. I literally got HUNDREDS of pissed off IM&#039;s from ppl. It was win, kthx.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mooty,<br />
if you had been present then you would know that PN has shifted focus dramatically to trolling, groups such as &#8216;Justice League, Unlimited&#8217;, &#8216;Jews of Second Life&#8217; and others are constantly being lulzmilked with great success. We didn&#8217;t fucking crash the grid with those lulzturtles either, it wasn&#8217;t intended to crash anything. It was intended to be annoying as shit and shout some obscenities. I literally got HUNDREDS of pissed off IM&#8217;s from ppl. It was win, kthx.</p>
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		<title>By: Tizzers Foxchase</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22201</link>
		<dc:creator>Tizzers Foxchase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mooty~

That is what I have been saying for the last 6 months! Crashing sims is old, it&#039;s boring, and honestly accomplishes nothing. If anonymous started using its brain, it would be a scary hive-mind force to be reckoned with. There are a lot of intelligent people in PN. If you can harness that power, you&#039;ve conquered the internet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mooty~</p>
<p>That is what I have been saying for the last 6 months! Crashing sims is old, it&#8217;s boring, and honestly accomplishes nothing. If anonymous started using its brain, it would be a scary hive-mind force to be reckoned with. There are a lot of intelligent people in PN. If you can harness that power, you&#8217;ve conquered the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: someclubowner</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22200</link>
		<dc:creator>someclubowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought to everyone who&#039;s having trouble with being &#039;indefensible&#039; against girefers: Leave the mainland, and ALL yourproblems are solved!

Lolcubes and whatnot CANNOT enter your land from a neighbouring sim that isn&#039;t using the proper estate tools, if there IS no other sim nextdoor.

The only thing anyone can pull off in our club, is sound and particle spam. And the max number of bans on land is not an issue  either, there&#039;s plenty of tools and gadgets to get rid of undesired elements going around the land tools, so anyone who pulls something, is gone within 5 minutes. Their alts just the same.

SL is not indefensible. The mainland perhaps is, but the rest definately isn&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought to everyone who&#8217;s having trouble with being &#8216;indefensible&#8217; against girefers: Leave the mainland, and ALL yourproblems are solved!</p>
<p>Lolcubes and whatnot CANNOT enter your land from a neighbouring sim that isn&#8217;t using the proper estate tools, if there IS no other sim nextdoor.</p>
<p>The only thing anyone can pull off in our club, is sound and particle spam. And the max number of bans on land is not an issue  either, there&#8217;s plenty of tools and gadgets to get rid of undesired elements going around the land tools, so anyone who pulls something, is gone within 5 minutes. Their alts just the same.</p>
<p>SL is not indefensible. The mainland perhaps is, but the rest definately isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: mootykips</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22199</link>
		<dc:creator>mootykips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Being anonymous only make you a coward, not powerful...&quot;

Au contraire, being anonymous gives you the power to say what you wish without hurting your reputation in an online community, and being able to speak freely is the most powerful thing of all in said communities. It also encourages the illusion of having more people in your community than you actually have, and discourages paranoia and authority, both relatively good things as far as I&#039;m concerned (and I&#039;d know!).

Until the Paranoid N-igras get their weapons to actually troll people (something that the megaprims obviously do not do), the attacks will stay unnoticed by most. Had the PN stayed small-scale trolling groups, something that I admit was a mistake not to encourage in my time as e-leader, they&#039;d be way more famous than they are now.

Crashing things is easy. Shock and awe doesn&#039;t cut it anymore. You either crash the entire grid (like we did with the asset servers) or you piss people off so much they bitch about it (like Prok and Yiffy Yaffle). Kalel - the PN don&#039;t troll anyone anymore, they just crash shit. And that&#039;s reasonably effective, but it&#039;s not nearly as effective as the alternatives. See: W-Hat, who were able to shoot a few penises at Anshe Chung and got national attention. See: Edwards, who had a few dicks on his e-lawn and managed to get PN national attention, though none of it would be noticed if they just shut up and took it like SL does daily.

It reminds me of the Encyclopedia Dramatica guys that got butthurt because even the shittiest trolls from PN were able to hop on #ed and piss off the &quot;lulzcows&quot; like Blargh, eventually getting to the point where PN was kicked off the network, and ED itself was trolled and made a &quot;state of the union&quot; address denouncing the &quot;chanfags&quot; who gave them all their content. Some say I even inadvertently trolled PN by leaving in the way I did (and I probably could have done massive damage by claiming that I was Angel Fluffy and pissing them off even more, while ruining AF as well). It&#039;s really that easy. And until PN can stop seeing themselves as a group of sim-crashers with a hierarchy and planned raids (W-Hat Delux/Voted-5) they&#039;re going to keep burning themselves out on useless attacks. No offense to ^ban^ and codec who I know can script, you&#039;re just going the opposite direction you should be going. If you want to piss people off, you need to piss them off, not just shoot a bunch of lolcubes in the sky and wait until the sim reboots.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Being anonymous only make you a coward, not powerful&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Au contraire, being anonymous gives you the power to say what you wish without hurting your reputation in an online community, and being able to speak freely is the most powerful thing of all in said communities. It also encourages the illusion of having more people in your community than you actually have, and discourages paranoia and authority, both relatively good things as far as I&#8217;m concerned (and I&#8217;d know!).</p>
<p>Until the Paranoid N-igras get their weapons to actually troll people (something that the megaprims obviously do not do), the attacks will stay unnoticed by most. Had the PN stayed small-scale trolling groups, something that I admit was a mistake not to encourage in my time as e-leader, they&#8217;d be way more famous than they are now.</p>
<p>Crashing things is easy. Shock and awe doesn&#8217;t cut it anymore. You either crash the entire grid (like we did with the asset servers) or you piss people off so much they bitch about it (like Prok and Yiffy Yaffle). Kalel &#8211; the PN don&#8217;t troll anyone anymore, they just crash shit. And that&#8217;s reasonably effective, but it&#8217;s not nearly as effective as the alternatives. See: W-Hat, who were able to shoot a few penises at Anshe Chung and got national attention. See: Edwards, who had a few dicks on his e-lawn and managed to get PN national attention, though none of it would be noticed if they just shut up and took it like SL does daily.</p>
<p>It reminds me of the Encyclopedia Dramatica guys that got butthurt because even the shittiest trolls from PN were able to hop on #ed and piss off the &#8220;lulzcows&#8221; like Blargh, eventually getting to the point where PN was kicked off the network, and ED itself was trolled and made a &#8220;state of the union&#8221; address denouncing the &#8220;chanfags&#8221; who gave them all their content. Some say I even inadvertently trolled PN by leaving in the way I did (and I probably could have done massive damage by claiming that I was Angel Fluffy and pissing them off even more, while ruining AF as well). It&#8217;s really that easy. And until PN can stop seeing themselves as a group of sim-crashers with a hierarchy and planned raids (W-Hat Delux/Voted-5) they&#8217;re going to keep burning themselves out on useless attacks. No offense to ^ban^ and codec who I know can script, you&#8217;re just going the opposite direction you should be going. If you want to piss people off, you need to piss them off, not just shoot a bunch of lolcubes in the sky and wait until the sim reboots.</p>
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		<title>By: Maldavius</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/09/second-life-is.html/comment-page-2#comment-22198</link>
		<dc:creator>Maldavius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im really butthurt
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