Comments on: The Tao of SL Volunteers – in Words and Video http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Cocoanut Koala http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21117 Cocoanut Koala Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:11:57 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21117 Finding the positive is fine. But not when it comes as a directive, to be checked off in sort of a checklist. There are bad things that happen in SL, and tops on my priority list is not having some Linden or volunteer focusing on making jokes or coming up with some lame positive. I mean, I GET it. I just think that kind of thinking ends up pissing off more people than it helps. "Blowing sunshine up my ass" is one phrase for it. coco Finding the positive is fine. But not when it comes as a directive, to be checked off in sort of a checklist.

There are bad things that happen in SL, and tops on my priority list is not having some Linden or volunteer focusing on making jokes or coming up with some lame positive.

I mean, I GET it. I just think that kind of thinking ends up pissing off more people than it helps. “Blowing sunshine up my ass” is one phrase for it.

coco

]]> By: lulzedtosleep http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21116 lulzedtosleep Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:06:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21116 Whine whine whine, assume assume assume. Classic Herald. @Coconut, finding the positive, whether it comes from Linden Lab or anywhere else, is anything but childish. Whine whine whine, assume assume assume.

Classic Herald.

@Coconut, finding the positive, whether it comes from Linden Lab or anywhere else, is anything but childish.

]]> By: Cicero http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21115 Cicero Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:00:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21115 Email and IM to 'V-Team' Lindens were and remain unanswered. Can you recommend a method of communicating with the V-Team Lindens that works when the ex-Mentor no longer has access to the Mentor Group? Email and IM to ‘V-Team’ Lindens were and remain unanswered. Can you recommend a method of communicating with the V-Team Lindens that works when the ex-Mentor no longer has access to the Mentor Group?

]]> By: Second Lulz Vigilante http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21114 Second Lulz Vigilante Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:38:35 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21114 @Greefin Oh A lot of griefers try to look as ugly as possible. It's almost a point of pride with a lot of them. I've seen uglier than the griefer in that video. So for real, they don't get laughed off the grid. @Greefin Oh

A lot of griefers try to look as ugly as possible. It’s almost a point of pride with a lot of them. I’ve seen uglier than the griefer in that video. So for real, they don’t get laughed off the grid.

]]> By: neon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21113 neon Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:06:52 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21113 so let me get this straight.. instead of talking to a linden who runs the volunteer program, the volunteer in question (i'm glad we now know we're talking about some hurt individual) they went to the herald to talk to a linden to write an article? right the story isn't getting much better no offense so let me get this straight.. instead of talking to a linden who runs the volunteer program, the volunteer in question (i’m glad we now know we’re talking about some hurt individual) they went to the herald to talk to a linden to write an article? right the story isn’t getting much better no offense

]]> By: David Brinkley Jr. http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21112 David Brinkley Jr. Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:41:14 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21112 DaveOner - you mean JUNIOR Journalists, Dave. DaveOner – you mean JUNIOR Journalists, Dave.

]]> By: Cicero http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21111 Cicero Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:29:32 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21111 All very well. Except the ex-mentor in question had booked into one of the 'mandatory orientation sessions' as requested in the relentless spamming of the group. And attended the meeting they had booked into. While they may not be a public fan of the Linden's policies in many cases, they are definitely not a griefer, neither have they abused the Mentor tag in any way. It just looks like yet another example of the Linden's aggressive stiffeling of any form of dissent within SL. Curiously, the Lindens can't seem to understand that mentoring is something people do in order to help others. A Mentor's views concerning Linden policy have no effect on this. Indeed, most residents in need of mentoring know so little of the ins and outs of Linden Lab and Second Life that they have no interest in, or understanding of, the ever changing complexities of Linden policies. Raising such issues, if one had an axe to grind, would be an exercise in futility. So, the utterly pointless loss of a willing volunteer - simply to satisfy Linden Lab control freakery. All very well.

Except the ex-mentor in question had booked into one of the ‘mandatory orientation sessions’ as requested in the relentless spamming of the group. And attended the meeting they had booked into.
While they may not be a public fan of the Linden’s policies in many cases, they are definitely not a griefer, neither have they abused the Mentor tag in any way.

It just looks like yet another example of the Linden’s aggressive stiffeling of any form of dissent within SL.

Curiously, the Lindens can’t seem to understand that mentoring is something people do in order to help others. A Mentor’s views concerning Linden policy have no effect on this. Indeed, most residents in need of mentoring know so little of the ins and outs of Linden Lab and Second Life that they have no interest in, or understanding of, the ever changing complexities of Linden policies. Raising such issues, if one had an axe to grind, would be an exercise in futility.

So, the utterly pointless loss of a willing volunteer – simply to satisfy Linden Lab control freakery.

]]> By: Cocoanut Koala http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21110 Cocoanut Koala Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:04:57 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21110 I like the directive to stay respectful even if respect isn't returned. But the principle of "seek and find the positive" in any situation is rather childish. In many situations, finding something to be vocally positive about is decidedly unhelpful. It can be perceived as indicating a lack of empathy or a Pollyannaish attitude, as being silly, and as not taking people and their problems seriously. coco I like the directive to stay respectful even if respect isn’t returned.

But the principle of “seek and find the positive” in any situation is rather childish.

In many situations, finding something to be vocally positive about is decidedly unhelpful. It can be perceived as indicating a lack of empathy or a Pollyannaish attitude, as being silly, and as not taking people and their problems seriously.

coco

]]> By: DaveOner http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21109 DaveOner Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:50:52 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21109 What kind of journalist does less actual research than some random guy posting in the comments?? SLH journalists, that's who! If you're going to go into Prokofian conspiracy theories at least do some snooping first! Don't write the article if you have to say "As best I can determine...", "it is implied..." or "One might imagine..." to connect your baseless conclusions! Find a small factoid and assert that this means what you are saying is true! I would think you of all people would know the formula! What kind of journalist does less actual research than some random guy posting in the comments?? SLH journalists, that’s who!

If you’re going to go into Prokofian conspiracy theories at least do some snooping first! Don’t write the article if you have to say “As best I can determine…”, “it is implied…” or “One might imagine…” to connect your baseless conclusions! Find a small factoid and assert that this means what you are saying is true!

I would think you of all people would know the formula!

]]> By: neon http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/10/the-tao-of-sl-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-21108 neon Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:28:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=1037#comment-21108 recently mentors were asked daily in group notices (for two weeks, my gawd the spam!) if they had not taken the mandatory orientation session and had been invited into the group after july 17th to please do so within 2 weeks as october 2nd would be the cut off date. group notices were also sent out to those mentors before they were removed with a notecard explaining how to be allowed back in; it was up to the active, participating mentor to read the notecard. it's also been said what you do on your own time is your business as long as your mentor tag is not activated when you are doing what you are doing. it's pretty clearly stated at the volunteer portal. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Title_Activation_/_Conditions https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Portal recently mentors were asked daily in group notices (for two weeks, my gawd the spam!) if they had not taken the mandatory orientation session and had been invited into the group after july 17th to please do so within 2 weeks as october 2nd would be the cut off date. group notices were also sent out to those mentors before they were removed with a notecard explaining how to be allowed back in; it was up to the active, participating mentor to read the notecard. it’s also been said what you do on your own time is your business as long as your mentor tag is not activated when you are doing what you are doing. it’s pretty clearly stated at the volunteer portal.

https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Title_Activation_/_Conditions

https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Portal

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