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		<title>By: Nina A</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20193</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More news on this sad event.

http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9822822-52.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More news on this sad event.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9822822-52.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-5" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9822822-52.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Logic</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20192</link>
		<dc:creator>Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing was fishy.  If they wanted respect, they should have said there was a death.  Instead, it was open to all speculation and the result is exactly what should have happened.  They handled it all 100% wrong.

respect this decision:  We think the whole thing is a ploy.  Ironic that LC just released boots on their blog.  They sure went back to work awfully quick after such a &#039;tragic&#039; event.  &quot;I don&#039;t know when I will be able to look at a computer again&quot;  or something of the sort was said on that same blog just 5 days earlier.

Please.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing was fishy.  If they wanted respect, they should have said there was a death.  Instead, it was open to all speculation and the result is exactly what should have happened.  They handled it all 100% wrong.</p>
<p>respect this decision:  We think the whole thing is a ploy.  Ironic that LC just released boots on their blog.  They sure went back to work awfully quick after such a &#8216;tragic&#8217; event.  &#8220;I don&#8217;t know when I will be able to look at a computer again&#8221;  or something of the sort was said on that same blog just 5 days earlier.</p>
<p>Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina A</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20191</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;But you can&#039;t expect that people who live drama-ridden in-your-face public lives like this and then mysteriously disappear and close sims and don&#039;t say anything for days to be believed when they suddenly announce a death&quot;...

That is exactly the circumstances I would expect to hear of a sudden death. What do you know Prokofy? What is your &#039;smoking gun&#039; or is someone guilty until proven innocent, an attitude formed from your Russian connection?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;But you can&#8217;t expect that people who live drama-ridden in-your-face public lives like this and then mysteriously disappear and close sims and don&#8217;t say anything for days to be believed when they suddenly announce a death&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>That is exactly the circumstances I would expect to hear of a sudden death. What do you know Prokofy? What is your &#8216;smoking gun&#8217; or is someone guilty until proven innocent, an attitude formed from your Russian connection?</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20190</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starley,

I take your points, and you have your own experience. But you can&#039;t expect that people who live drama-ridden in-your-face public lives like this and then mysteriously disappear and close sims and don&#039;t say anything for days to be believed when they suddenly announce a death, and it also seems to be a convenient way out of a drama situation that seems to have painted itself in a corner.

If it&#039;s a private matter, keep it private. If you live your life on the Internet, expect people not to believe, and not to be impressed.

I certainly stand by these words:

&quot;The avatar has reliably been found to be a window to the soul; and that communion of the souls is possible in SL in ways that aren&#039;t so religious as to be off-putting, nor so hippy-dippy as to be meaningless. It&#039;s real~Prokofy Neva&quot;

But it&#039;s real for you, not me. Sorry, to disappoint.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starley,</p>
<p>I take your points, and you have your own experience. But you can&#8217;t expect that people who live drama-ridden in-your-face public lives like this and then mysteriously disappear and close sims and don&#8217;t say anything for days to be believed when they suddenly announce a death, and it also seems to be a convenient way out of a drama situation that seems to have painted itself in a corner.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a private matter, keep it private. If you live your life on the Internet, expect people not to believe, and not to be impressed.</p>
<p>I certainly stand by these words:</p>
<p>&#8220;The avatar has reliably been found to be a window to the soul; and that communion of the souls is possible in SL in ways that aren&#8217;t so religious as to be off-putting, nor so hippy-dippy as to be meaningless. It&#8217;s real~Prokofy Neva&#8221;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s real for you, not me. Sorry, to disappoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Starley</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20189</link>
		<dc:creator>Starley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok&#039;s questions are understandable if not entirely tactful. Unfortunately, anyone who spends any amount of time online comes across an instance of someone faking their own death, and it&#039;s a natural instinct to be suspicious. I really wish that were the truth in this instance, but sadly Ginny has really passed away.  I went to his funeral, not some other person&#039;s.  There is indeed an obituary, but the decision was made not to post it online as the people named in it have privacy concerns, which I don&#039;t think are unfounded.  I guess it&#039;s been discovered by someone who knew him well enough to know his real name and is floating around, but it&#039;s not my place to give the link.

There really is no way to &quot;prove&quot; anything here. I was not duped into going to a stranger&#039;s funeral. I have no way to prove that though. Even with an obituary, how do you prove the person was &quot;Ginny Talamasca&quot; unless you already knew his name and location?  The people who were close to him know the truth and that&#039;s all that&#039;s really important.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok&#8217;s questions are understandable if not entirely tactful. Unfortunately, anyone who spends any amount of time online comes across an instance of someone faking their own death, and it&#8217;s a natural instinct to be suspicious. I really wish that were the truth in this instance, but sadly Ginny has really passed away.  I went to his funeral, not some other person&#8217;s.  There is indeed an obituary, but the decision was made not to post it online as the people named in it have privacy concerns, which I don&#8217;t think are unfounded.  I guess it&#8217;s been discovered by someone who knew him well enough to know his real name and is floating around, but it&#8217;s not my place to give the link.</p>
<p>There really is no way to &#8220;prove&#8221; anything here. I was not duped into going to a stranger&#8217;s funeral. I have no way to prove that though. Even with an obituary, how do you prove the person was &#8220;Ginny Talamasca&#8221; unless you already knew his name and location?  The people who were close to him know the truth and that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s really important.</p>
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		<title>By: proksucks</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20188</link>
		<dc:creator>proksucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prok, you&#039;re expressing your opinion, which you have every right to do so.

To call it journalism is crap.

This was attributed to you.  If you did indeed write it it shows that
at one point you were capable of human feelings and sensitivity.  If
you didn&#039;t, then it&#039;s not a surprise at all:

&quot;The avatar has reliably been found to be a window to the soul; and that communion of the souls is possible in SL in ways that aren&#039;t so religious as to be off-putting, nor so hippy-dippy as to be meaningless. It&#039;s real~Prokofy Neva&quot;

It&#039;s your right to say so.  Granted, you&#039;ve done it time and again.

No one cares about your in-laws or your mother who died.  Thank you for not blogging or writing about it.

Just die.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prok, you&#8217;re expressing your opinion, which you have every right to do so.</p>
<p>To call it journalism is crap.</p>
<p>This was attributed to you.  If you did indeed write it it shows that<br />
at one point you were capable of human feelings and sensitivity.  If<br />
you didn&#8217;t, then it&#8217;s not a surprise at all:</p>
<p>&#8220;The avatar has reliably been found to be a window to the soul; and that communion of the souls is possible in SL in ways that aren&#8217;t so religious as to be off-putting, nor so hippy-dippy as to be meaningless. It&#8217;s real~Prokofy Neva&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your right to say so.  Granted, you&#8217;ve done it time and again.</p>
<p>No one cares about your in-laws or your mother who died.  Thank you for not blogging or writing about it.</p>
<p>Just die.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20187</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Why does it have to add up for you? Why do you have the right to know anyone&#039;s RL information?
2) There is a RL obituary you insufferable git
3) Starley is a SHE.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Why does it have to add up for you? Why do you have the right to know anyone&#8217;s RL information?<br />
2) There is a RL obituary you insufferable git<br />
3) Starley is a SHE.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20186</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starley is one of the people who writes for this blog Last Call, and is apparently in the same designers&#039; group? So it&#039;s not an independent source.

Even after reading Starley&#039;s account several times, no, I was utterly unconvinced because common sense and journalistic due diligence let you know there is something odd about all this.

And no, I didn&#039;t say Starley lied; I said I don&#039;t believe this account. It could be an account about an event part in SL, part in RL. It is obviously a narrative that means something to Starley. But it may not be true in the conventional sense.

We can&#039;t know that Starley himself wasn&#039;t lied to. Perhaps this person told him it was Ginny; it could have been someone else. And was there a funeral with a casket? Or some makeshift memorial service such as is common in the modern era where you really can&#039;t be sure anybody died at all?

Again, when people die in RL, there is a RL obituary, news article -- especially for one so young. There&#039;s a real life family -- something.

This just doesn&#039;t add up. And it&#039;s my right to say so.

As for the thread about Cocoanut&#039;s mother&#039;s death, I can only say: if you want something to be kept private and untouched by people you might disagree with, don&#039;t put it on a public forums, especially one like Second Citizen was. I sure didn&#039;t blog about and write forums postings about *my* mother&#039;s death.

And if you read that thread, you could see what really happened: Cristiano hijacked it first. I fought back. He was despicable in doing that. I wouldn&#039;t have posted it if Cristiano himself hadn&#039;t first made a nasty crack at me. I fight back when that happens.

Weedy finally retired into obscurity for awhile, having failed to convince everyone that she a) had this boyfriend husband b) who waited by her bedside in the ER; c) that she had to go to because she fell from a horse and then caught hantavirus (!) and d) but was suddenly able to rise from her deathbed and type posts to the forums about all this.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starley is one of the people who writes for this blog Last Call, and is apparently in the same designers&#8217; group? So it&#8217;s not an independent source.</p>
<p>Even after reading Starley&#8217;s account several times, no, I was utterly unconvinced because common sense and journalistic due diligence let you know there is something odd about all this.</p>
<p>And no, I didn&#8217;t say Starley lied; I said I don&#8217;t believe this account. It could be an account about an event part in SL, part in RL. It is obviously a narrative that means something to Starley. But it may not be true in the conventional sense.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t know that Starley himself wasn&#8217;t lied to. Perhaps this person told him it was Ginny; it could have been someone else. And was there a funeral with a casket? Or some makeshift memorial service such as is common in the modern era where you really can&#8217;t be sure anybody died at all?</p>
<p>Again, when people die in RL, there is a RL obituary, news article &#8212; especially for one so young. There&#8217;s a real life family &#8212; something.</p>
<p>This just doesn&#8217;t add up. And it&#8217;s my right to say so.</p>
<p>As for the thread about Cocoanut&#8217;s mother&#8217;s death, I can only say: if you want something to be kept private and untouched by people you might disagree with, don&#8217;t put it on a public forums, especially one like Second Citizen was. I sure didn&#8217;t blog about and write forums postings about *my* mother&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>And if you read that thread, you could see what really happened: Cristiano hijacked it first. I fought back. He was despicable in doing that. I wouldn&#8217;t have posted it if Cristiano himself hadn&#8217;t first made a nasty crack at me. I fight back when that happens.</p>
<p>Weedy finally retired into obscurity for awhile, having failed to convince everyone that she a) had this boyfriend husband b) who waited by her bedside in the ER; c) that she had to go to because she fell from a horse and then caught hantavirus (!) and d) but was suddenly able to rise from her deathbed and type posts to the forums about all this.</p>
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		<title>By: You'reclinicallysickintheheadprokofy</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20185</link>
		<dc:creator>You'reclinicallysickintheheadprokofy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Prok, so you&#039;re calling Starley Therian a liar? She went to the damned funeral and gave a blog account of it...

&quot;In fact, my inlaws&#039; relatives did indeed die in the GULAG and sadly, it&#039;s amply documented, but there&#039;s no need to supply griefers with further means to intrude into my personal life, either.&quot;

Yeah, so YOU get to claim shit without supplying proof, but everyone else is obligated to prove to you that it&#039;s true about Ginny? Hypocritical cop out. You&#039;re trying to intrude yourself. What&#039;s you&#039;re excuse? Only Prok gets to intrude? Who made you God? Delusions of grandeur, classic. By your whacked definition of a griefer you give above, you are a griefer yourself (I have actually considered you a griefer for a long time).

And how do &quot;We all know that.&quot; about Weedy? We don&#039;t. You&#039;re just guessing, and like the asshole you are, deigning to speak for all of us. Show us conclusive evidence or piss off. And stop using &quot;we&quot; when you&#039;re voicing your asinine conjectures. You represent no one&#039;s voice but your own, creep.

You&#039;re a horrible, evil, self-serving oaf who uses the misfortunes of others to try and appear as some sort of visionary. You&#039;re fraud who does nearly everything to others that you complain about them doing. You even hijacked your friend Coco&#039;s thread about her mother&#039;s death just so you could take a few more petty and vindictive shots at your enemies. You don&#039;t care about other people (unless they kiss your ass and then you&#039;ll give them a fake thank you and once they dare disagree with you, you&#039;ll turn on them like an abused pit bull), you don;t care about SL, or anything that doesn&#039;t help you prop up that fat-headed ego. And you&#039;re no journalist, your a blogger, and a piss poor, nut case one at that. You are hands down the biggest egomaniac I&#039;ve ever had the displeasure of reading.

From Starley&#039;s blog:

&quot;To his funeral, I wore a dress that he helped me pick out and that he talked me into spending way too much money on. At the time, he told me that a dress so fabulous would find the perfect occasion. I never dreamed that it would be this.  Somewhere I&#039;m sure he laughed and said &quot;I told you so!&quot;.

I got to see where he lived, the laptop he worked on with the touch pad almost worn through from drawing on it with his finger. (Yes, he designed his clothing with his finger on a laptop touch pad!) I met the person behind Katterina, who I&#039;d heard laughing in the background a million times on the phone.&quot;

http://www.starley.com/2007/11/clarity.html

Yeah I am so sure that a well known designer with a lot to lose if they lied about something like this is just making it up...

You awful stormcrow, I hope Hell has a special place waiting for you.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Prok, so you&#8217;re calling Starley Therian a liar? She went to the damned funeral and gave a blog account of it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, my inlaws&#8217; relatives did indeed die in the GULAG and sadly, it&#8217;s amply documented, but there&#8217;s no need to supply griefers with further means to intrude into my personal life, either.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, so YOU get to claim shit without supplying proof, but everyone else is obligated to prove to you that it&#8217;s true about Ginny? Hypocritical cop out. You&#8217;re trying to intrude yourself. What&#8217;s you&#8217;re excuse? Only Prok gets to intrude? Who made you God? Delusions of grandeur, classic. By your whacked definition of a griefer you give above, you are a griefer yourself (I have actually considered you a griefer for a long time).</p>
<p>And how do &#8220;We all know that.&#8221; about Weedy? We don&#8217;t. You&#8217;re just guessing, and like the asshole you are, deigning to speak for all of us. Show us conclusive evidence or piss off. And stop using &#8220;we&#8221; when you&#8217;re voicing your asinine conjectures. You represent no one&#8217;s voice but your own, creep.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a horrible, evil, self-serving oaf who uses the misfortunes of others to try and appear as some sort of visionary. You&#8217;re fraud who does nearly everything to others that you complain about them doing. You even hijacked your friend Coco&#8217;s thread about her mother&#8217;s death just so you could take a few more petty and vindictive shots at your enemies. You don&#8217;t care about other people (unless they kiss your ass and then you&#8217;ll give them a fake thank you and once they dare disagree with you, you&#8217;ll turn on them like an abused pit bull), you don;t care about SL, or anything that doesn&#8217;t help you prop up that fat-headed ego. And you&#8217;re no journalist, your a blogger, and a piss poor, nut case one at that. You are hands down the biggest egomaniac I&#8217;ve ever had the displeasure of reading.</p>
<p>From Starley&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;To his funeral, I wore a dress that he helped me pick out and that he talked me into spending way too much money on. At the time, he told me that a dress so fabulous would find the perfect occasion. I never dreamed that it would be this.  Somewhere I&#8217;m sure he laughed and said &#8220;I told you so!&#8221;.</p>
<p>I got to see where he lived, the laptop he worked on with the touch pad almost worn through from drawing on it with his finger. (Yes, he designed his clothing with his finger on a laptop touch pad!) I met the person behind Katterina, who I&#8217;d heard laughing in the background a million times on the phone.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.starley.com/2007/11/clarity.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.starley.com/2007/11/clarity.html</a></p>
<p>Yeah I am so sure that a well known designer with a lot to lose if they lied about something like this is just making it up&#8230;</p>
<p>You awful stormcrow, I hope Hell has a special place waiting for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/goodbye-ginny.html/comment-page-1#comment-20184</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenshi, we have no evidence that this RL typist is really dead. It&#039;s not personal. It&#039;s journalistic inquiry, of the type you should be doing, instead of gushing and being an empty-headed idiot.

I don&#039;t buy any story about any RL link -- and I&#039;m not a moron, and I don&#039;t harass people in real life, unlike the tards posting here.

In fact, my inlaws&#039; relatives did indeed die in the GULAG and sadly, it&#039;s amply documented, but there&#039;s no need to supply griefers with further means to intrude into my personal life, either.

Weedy&#039;s &quot;husband/boyfriend/imaginary friend&quot; is well, not there. Not real. We all know that. It&#039;s a narrative that bespeaks something important to Weedy or about Weedy and we all understand it, but we&#039;re not *required* to believe in it or any of the outlandish stories that have surrounded it (like the hantavirus story).

As I said, when other people in SL have died in RL, there is ample evidence that they really died. There are just too many questions around this case. I&#039;m not sure why. It&#039;s sad no matter how you look at it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenshi, we have no evidence that this RL typist is really dead. It&#8217;s not personal. It&#8217;s journalistic inquiry, of the type you should be doing, instead of gushing and being an empty-headed idiot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy any story about any RL link &#8212; and I&#8217;m not a moron, and I don&#8217;t harass people in real life, unlike the tards posting here.</p>
<p>In fact, my inlaws&#8217; relatives did indeed die in the GULAG and sadly, it&#8217;s amply documented, but there&#8217;s no need to supply griefers with further means to intrude into my personal life, either.</p>
<p>Weedy&#8217;s &#8220;husband/boyfriend/imaginary friend&#8221; is well, not there. Not real. We all know that. It&#8217;s a narrative that bespeaks something important to Weedy or about Weedy and we all understand it, but we&#8217;re not *required* to believe in it or any of the outlandish stories that have surrounded it (like the hantavirus story).</p>
<p>As I said, when other people in SL have died in RL, there is ample evidence that they really died. There are just too many questions around this case. I&#8217;m not sure why. It&#8217;s sad no matter how you look at it.</p>
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