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		<title>By: KK</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/same-offender-d.html/comment-page-2#comment-20487</link>
		<dc:creator>KK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And finally, for the record, everybody knows (who has a firing brain cell) that the only raping going on in Second Life is paying 1600 bucks and 300 thereafter a month to own virtual land...just to feed our addiction! ;-p
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally, for the record, everybody knows (who has a firing brain cell) that the only raping going on in Second Life is paying 1600 bucks and 300 thereafter a month to own virtual land&#8230;just to feed our addiction! ;-p</p>
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		<title>By: KK</title>
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		<dc:creator>KK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhhhh....I get it! I see what this is. This is a Halloween April Fool&#039;s joke. Katrina is role playing, just pretending to be one of those useless stupid people...it&#039;s for her (or his?) thesis to graduate - it&#039;s all about the mob response to the  human stupidity gene in a virtual setting.

Funny! Well done! Bravo! You skunked us all, joke&#039;s on us for falling for it.

Because if that&#039;s not the case and Katrina is actually for real, then she - along with her &quot;supporters&quot; are completely mentally unstable. Besides, in a real life scenario, if a real life rapist cornered ole Kat in a dark alley, all she&#039;d have to do is open her mouth, unload this load of stupidity and no rapist in his right mind would put his dick anywhere near her...

See, if Katrina is for real, she&#039;s EXACTLY WHY the pro choice movement is fighting so hard to make sure abortion stays legal...to head that kinda shit off at the pass.


PS...where can I find one of those &quot;fuck his head&quot; balls? That rules.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhhh&#8230;.I get it! I see what this is. This is a Halloween April Fool&#8217;s joke. Katrina is role playing, just pretending to be one of those useless stupid people&#8230;it&#8217;s for her (or his?) thesis to graduate &#8211; it&#8217;s all about the mob response to the  human stupidity gene in a virtual setting.</p>
<p>Funny! Well done! Bravo! You skunked us all, joke&#8217;s on us for falling for it.</p>
<p>Because if that&#8217;s not the case and Katrina is actually for real, then she &#8211; along with her &#8220;supporters&#8221; are completely mentally unstable. Besides, in a real life scenario, if a real life rapist cornered ole Kat in a dark alley, all she&#8217;d have to do is open her mouth, unload this load of stupidity and no rapist in his right mind would put his dick anywhere near her&#8230;</p>
<p>See, if Katrina is for real, she&#8217;s EXACTLY WHY the pro choice movement is fighting so hard to make sure abortion stays legal&#8230;to head that kinda shit off at the pass.</p>
<p>PS&#8230;where can I find one of those &#8220;fuck his head&#8221; balls? That rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/same-offender-d.html/comment-page-2#comment-20485</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup yup yup. Crazy people who think they actually live inside their computers.

I dislike griefers as much as the next grown up, but for fuck&#039;s sake, you are just feeding this guy by giving him EXACTLY what he wants.

Not only are you made of glass, you&#039;re stupid to boot.

You scared your kids over this - you did much more harm to them than had you minimized the window and calmly explained LIKE AN ADULT. Instead, you reacted like a child yourself, freaking out and cowering, which of course freaks your kids out. You did more damage to them than the griefer.

Kids are resilient, and weak minded adults barraging them with fear factors only makes things worse.

What I think I see here is a person who may or may not even have kids using these childrens to try and play to people&#039;s emotions. And of course, Cococarebear takes the bait.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup yup yup. Crazy people who think they actually live inside their computers.</p>
<p>I dislike griefers as much as the next grown up, but for fuck&#8217;s sake, you are just feeding this guy by giving him EXACTLY what he wants.</p>
<p>Not only are you made of glass, you&#8217;re stupid to boot.</p>
<p>You scared your kids over this &#8211; you did much more harm to them than had you minimized the window and calmly explained LIKE AN ADULT. Instead, you reacted like a child yourself, freaking out and cowering, which of course freaks your kids out. You did more damage to them than the griefer.</p>
<p>Kids are resilient, and weak minded adults barraging them with fear factors only makes things worse.</p>
<p>What I think I see here is a person who may or may not even have kids using these childrens to try and play to people&#8217;s emotions. And of course, Cococarebear takes the bait.</p>
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		<title>By: MachineCode</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/same-offender-d.html/comment-page-2#comment-20484</link>
		<dc:creator>MachineCode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You keep trying to make it about the &quot;rapist&quot; that attacked you. I agree with you that raping a person is an unforgiveable act and should not be tolerated. Whether what you experienced was rape is a matter of opinion, and it&#039;s my opinion that it was not. That doesn&#039;t make it OK; the individual who did it has more than a few problems, and this kind of thing should never happen. He is an embarrassment to the internets.

However, the comments directed at YOU should be treated as such. Criticism of your personality in this space is warranted because what you are doing is best described by an IRL idiom: &quot;Making a mountain out of a molehill.&quot; The facts stand that it is very easy for you to escape the situation you found yourself in, and you made it seem like it was impossible. You experienced no physical harm, which cannot be denied. Any &quot;mental scarring&quot; you incurred could have been avoided merely by looking away. You and many people seem to insist that people who write this off as stupid or pointless are just as bad. We&#039;re just trying to keep it real, because we know what happens when someone takes the internet seriously. They turn into someone like you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep trying to make it about the &#8220;rapist&#8221; that attacked you. I agree with you that raping a person is an unforgiveable act and should not be tolerated. Whether what you experienced was rape is a matter of opinion, and it&#8217;s my opinion that it was not. That doesn&#8217;t make it OK; the individual who did it has more than a few problems, and this kind of thing should never happen. He is an embarrassment to the internets.</p>
<p>However, the comments directed at YOU should be treated as such. Criticism of your personality in this space is warranted because what you are doing is best described by an IRL idiom: &#8220;Making a mountain out of a molehill.&#8221; The facts stand that it is very easy for you to escape the situation you found yourself in, and you made it seem like it was impossible. You experienced no physical harm, which cannot be denied. Any &#8220;mental scarring&#8221; you incurred could have been avoided merely by looking away. You and many people seem to insist that people who write this off as stupid or pointless are just as bad. We&#8217;re just trying to keep it real, because we know what happens when someone takes the internet seriously. They turn into someone like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Davro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Davro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow coco, with that response, you just proved the guy right by how serious you are about these FAKE DEALINGS.


Okay, news flash, Second life is just a name, it doesnt literally mean a second life to live in, they just strive to make it a life-like entertainment platform.

Second, it&#039;s more or less a social experiment. and you&#039;re pawns.

The whole system is fake, all the way down to the money. what makes anything serious or &quot;real&quot; are the people who take it for more than what it is.
The fact this lady can jump off the computer and interact with something other than an avatar proves that second life is fake, that it is nothing more than a viewer that connects to an array of servers.

Want another sane reason why this isnt a case about rape? Simple, it&#039;s impossible to not consent to harassment on SL, you can ignore it and go along with the troll&#039;s mentality, which will bore him and make him leave, but if you react, and let the fucker get to you, you are acknowledging he has some control, you are consenting to allow him to get to you.

unlike real rape, where if the person has a knife to your throat, and is going to end your life if you don&#039;t do what he says, all by force, is rape.

The &quot;control&quot; factor here is being allowed by your actions, the troll has won by getting you to openly bitch here, you have allowed yourself to be &quot;raped&quot; you have allowed trolls to control you. but it cant really be called that as IT IS VERY MUCH CONSENTUAL. and rape is a non-consentual act.

you&#039;re allowing this to happen, you&#039;re allowing a troll to get you to squirm.

YHL, YHBT, HAND. as they say.

But really this seems more like a cry for attention more than anything.

Instead of just explaining to your kids that the idiot on the screen is a bad guy in a fantasy world who&#039;s more or less stupid, you jumped up, got scared, and shieled your kids as if they were in danger of being shot. instead of minimizing the window, smiling to re-assure them it&#039;s okay because &quot;mommy is okay&quot; and sitting them down elsewhere and spending time with them, where later you can open the window up, laugh, possibly log out if you&#039;ve been crushed or orbitted, and your AV be fine, and all for a little inconvenience.

You let the troll not only get to you, but scare the living shit out of your kids by your insane reaction. To which you need help.

you&#039;ll probably ignore this piece of logic, but whatever, I know if I were in your shoes, I&#039;d have done the above instead of wigging out and getting the reaction the troll wanted from you. You should really be spending more time with your children than playing second life, and submitting articles about how you got raped on a fucking game but some newbie with a penis popgun.

You&#039;re probably the worst example of modern parenting to date, well not the worst, there was that couple who played WoW who let their kids starve to death and contract illnesses only found in the 3rd world because WoW was &quot;more important and serious&quot;. but you&#039;re bordering around that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow coco, with that response, you just proved the guy right by how serious you are about these FAKE DEALINGS.</p>
<p>Okay, news flash, Second life is just a name, it doesnt literally mean a second life to live in, they just strive to make it a life-like entertainment platform.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s more or less a social experiment. and you&#8217;re pawns.</p>
<p>The whole system is fake, all the way down to the money. what makes anything serious or &#8220;real&#8221; are the people who take it for more than what it is.<br />
The fact this lady can jump off the computer and interact with something other than an avatar proves that second life is fake, that it is nothing more than a viewer that connects to an array of servers.</p>
<p>Want another sane reason why this isnt a case about rape? Simple, it&#8217;s impossible to not consent to harassment on SL, you can ignore it and go along with the troll&#8217;s mentality, which will bore him and make him leave, but if you react, and let the fucker get to you, you are acknowledging he has some control, you are consenting to allow him to get to you.</p>
<p>unlike real rape, where if the person has a knife to your throat, and is going to end your life if you don&#8217;t do what he says, all by force, is rape.</p>
<p>The &#8220;control&#8221; factor here is being allowed by your actions, the troll has won by getting you to openly bitch here, you have allowed yourself to be &#8220;raped&#8221; you have allowed trolls to control you. but it cant really be called that as IT IS VERY MUCH CONSENTUAL. and rape is a non-consentual act.</p>
<p>you&#8217;re allowing this to happen, you&#8217;re allowing a troll to get you to squirm.</p>
<p>YHL, YHBT, HAND. as they say.</p>
<p>But really this seems more like a cry for attention more than anything.</p>
<p>Instead of just explaining to your kids that the idiot on the screen is a bad guy in a fantasy world who&#8217;s more or less stupid, you jumped up, got scared, and shieled your kids as if they were in danger of being shot. instead of minimizing the window, smiling to re-assure them it&#8217;s okay because &#8220;mommy is okay&#8221; and sitting them down elsewhere and spending time with them, where later you can open the window up, laugh, possibly log out if you&#8217;ve been crushed or orbitted, and your AV be fine, and all for a little inconvenience.</p>
<p>You let the troll not only get to you, but scare the living shit out of your kids by your insane reaction. To which you need help.</p>
<p>you&#8217;ll probably ignore this piece of logic, but whatever, I know if I were in your shoes, I&#8217;d have done the above instead of wigging out and getting the reaction the troll wanted from you. You should really be spending more time with your children than playing second life, and submitting articles about how you got raped on a fucking game but some newbie with a penis popgun.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably the worst example of modern parenting to date, well not the worst, there was that couple who played WoW who let their kids starve to death and contract illnesses only found in the 3rd world because WoW was &#8220;more important and serious&#8221;. but you&#8217;re bordering around that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalien Talbot</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/same-offender-d.html/comment-page-2#comment-20481</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalien Talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what&#039;s the problem ? I heard that Caledon is a tight-knit group with a few hundred people. Get everyone from that community to get a habit to send a friendly reminder to a said kiddie when they login, something along: &quot;Your make yourself look rather funny with your actions, what do you think ?&quot;, and send him a friendly postcard with a view of a nice sim to visit, in case he does not have anything better to do.

Keep doing this for a couple of weeks and I have a suspicion he will have lots of lulz from this little  show - and a valuable set of snapshots from good places which he can explore on his own time :)




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what&#8217;s the problem ? I heard that Caledon is a tight-knit group with a few hundred people. Get everyone from that community to get a habit to send a friendly reminder to a said kiddie when they login, something along: &#8220;Your make yourself look rather funny with your actions, what do you think ?&#8221;, and send him a friendly postcard with a view of a nice sim to visit, in case he does not have anything better to do.</p>
<p>Keep doing this for a couple of weeks and I have a suspicion he will have lots of lulz from this little  show &#8211; and a valuable set of snapshots from good places which he can explore on his own time <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alyx Stoklitsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyx Stoklitsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex offender?

SEX OFFENDER? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

As for Blak Hax, I know who he is - and he&#039;s not &#039;Nitschke&#039; whoever the fuck that is.

If you think the freebie &#039;headfuck sphere&#039; is &#039;rape&#039; or &#039;sexual assault&#039;, I suggest turning your computer off, going outside and looking at the &#039;real world&#039;.

Don&#039;t try and stretch this into &#039;sexual assault *AGAINST WOMEN&#039; either. It&#039;s not *AGAINST WOMEN*, because we all know that there are no girls on the internet.

From the short chat log you posted, which is infact Blak&#039;s standard trolling routine (go into someone&#039;s house, pretend it&#039;s his and watch them get pissed), there is not even the slightest hint that he gave a rats ass about the gender of the owner.

So in short, yes, grin and bear it. What exactly you have to &#039;bear&#039; I&#039;m not sure - the crude animation of SL hardly seems particularly traumatizing.

Even as a Male, I get &#039;raped&#039; and &#039;sexually assaulted&#039; on an almost hourly basis in SL. The difference between me and you is that I&#039;m not a fucking crybaby and I have a grip on the REAL. WORLD.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex offender?</p>
<p>SEX OFFENDER? HAHAHAHAHA!!!</p>
<p>As for Blak Hax, I know who he is &#8211; and he&#8217;s not &#8216;Nitschke&#8217; whoever the fuck that is.</p>
<p>If you think the freebie &#8216;headfuck sphere&#8217; is &#8216;rape&#8217; or &#8216;sexual assault&#8217;, I suggest turning your computer off, going outside and looking at the &#8216;real world&#8217;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try and stretch this into &#8216;sexual assault *AGAINST WOMEN&#8217; either. It&#8217;s not *AGAINST WOMEN*, because we all know that there are no girls on the internet.</p>
<p>From the short chat log you posted, which is infact Blak&#8217;s standard trolling routine (go into someone&#8217;s house, pretend it&#8217;s his and watch them get pissed), there is not even the slightest hint that he gave a rats ass about the gender of the owner.</p>
<p>So in short, yes, grin and bear it. What exactly you have to &#8216;bear&#8217; I&#8217;m not sure &#8211; the crude animation of SL hardly seems particularly traumatizing.</p>
<p>Even as a Male, I get &#8216;raped&#8217; and &#8216;sexually assaulted&#8217; on an almost hourly basis in SL. The difference between me and you is that I&#8217;m not a fucking crybaby and I have a grip on the REAL. WORLD.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocoanut Koala</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/11/same-offender-d.html/comment-page-2#comment-20479</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocoanut Koala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Artemis, I see what you are saying, but I was responding to this article (I didn&#039;t read the previous one).

And the things I talk about - how we&#039;re just supposed to take it, and how yes, it can be very upsetting, and yes, they are sexual assaults - represent my own thoughts for a long time now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Artemis, I see what you are saying, but I was responding to this article (I didn&#8217;t read the previous one).</p>
<p>And the things I talk about &#8211; how we&#8217;re just supposed to take it, and how yes, it can be very upsetting, and yes, they are sexual assaults &#8211; represent my own thoughts for a long time now.</p>
<p>coco</p>
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		<title>By: Cocoanut Koala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocoanut Koala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Coco, reality check. You&#039;re too immersed in a stupid game if it&#039;s hurting you that bad. Is this a gender issue? Do women in general tend to be more involved and see it as reality more than males. Or is it a character trait? People who are more sensitive and imaginative tend to see more meaning than is actually there?&quot;

_____


Well, if you mean me specifically, it doesn&#039;t &quot;hurt me that bad,&quot; or hurt me at all.

Then again, I&#039;m older than the average koala.  I was also repeatedly forewarned about the prevalence of these various cretins before I ever joined SL, having read about them (and God knows, FROM them) often enough on the SLH, which I read long before I joined SL, starting back when it was the Alphaville Herald.

Doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not annoyed by it, though, or don&#039;t understand it to be the sexual harassment and assault it is.

And it certainly doesn&#039;t mean that I fall for any of this intimidation nonsense: &quot;OK, you talked about it, now you&#039;re really gonna get it!  You&#039;ve just painted a huge target on your own head!&quot;

As for seeing &quot;more meaning than is actually there,&quot; the only meaning is to debase, harass, sexually assault, humiliate, and/or otherwise make life miserable for others.

What more meaning could there possibly be?  It&#039;s not like one has a relationship with these jerks.

coco
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Coco, reality check. You&#8217;re too immersed in a stupid game if it&#8217;s hurting you that bad. Is this a gender issue? Do women in general tend to be more involved and see it as reality more than males. Or is it a character trait? People who are more sensitive and imaginative tend to see more meaning than is actually there?&#8221;</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>Well, if you mean me specifically, it doesn&#8217;t &#8220;hurt me that bad,&#8221; or hurt me at all.</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m older than the average koala.  I was also repeatedly forewarned about the prevalence of these various cretins before I ever joined SL, having read about them (and God knows, FROM them) often enough on the SLH, which I read long before I joined SL, starting back when it was the Alphaville Herald.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not annoyed by it, though, or don&#8217;t understand it to be the sexual harassment and assault it is.</p>
<p>And it certainly doesn&#8217;t mean that I fall for any of this intimidation nonsense: &#8220;OK, you talked about it, now you&#8217;re really gonna get it!  You&#8217;ve just painted a huge target on your own head!&#8221;</p>
<p>As for seeing &#8220;more meaning than is actually there,&#8221; the only meaning is to debase, harass, sexually assault, humiliate, and/or otherwise make life miserable for others.</p>
<p>What more meaning could there possibly be?  It&#8217;s not like one has a relationship with these jerks.</p>
<p>coco</p>
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